The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

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Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:05 pmHe's never been able to explain how his 'system' could work.
I never offered a system.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:05 pm He's never been able to explain how his 'system' could work.
That's because it's not a "system." So it will "work" just fine for the purposes of keeping people free, so long as the "system-loving" types are not allowed to ruin things.

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henry quirk wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:08 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:05 pmHe's never been able to explain how his 'system' could work.
I never offered a system.
Exactly. So it's law of the jungle, but that would still involve cow-towing to the bullies. There are certain innate qualities that humans have and nothing is ever going to change that. Unfortunately for you we are no longer jungle dwellers (fortunately for any humans lucky enough to live in modern western democracies i.e. 'socialist' :lol: )
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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:10 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:05 pm He's never been able to explain how his 'system' could work.
That's because it's not a "system." So it will "work" just fine for the purposes of keeping people free, so long as the "system-loving" types are not allowed to ruin things.

Great minds think alike. 👍
Ironic that you are both religious nuts, yet you continually bang on about this 'freedom' thing that you are both incapable of describing.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:15 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:10 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:05 pm He's never been able to explain how his 'system' could work.
That's because it's not a "system." So it will "work" just fine for the purposes of keeping people free, so long as the "system-loving" types are not allowed to ruin things.

Great minds think alike. 👍
We all know ....
Yeah, I knew that was the high-quality response I could expect from you. :lol:

Don't worry...I really don't mind. I expect it, and find it as reassuringly predictable as the sun in summertime. ☀️
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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:10 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:05 pm He's never been able to explain how his 'system' could work.
That's because it's not a "system." So it will "work" just fine for the purposes of keeping people free, so long as the "system-loving" types are not allowed to ruin things.

Great minds think alike. 👍
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And for those system lovers, the ones who insist everyone must walk their line, there's tar & feathers, the rope, and 00 shot.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:14 pmit's law of the jungle
Of course not. As usual, you're not thinking it thru.

Again...
henry quirk wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:31 pm
henry quirk wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:07 amAs long as I'm not murdering, raping, slaving, or stealing from them, my atomic pile is not their business.

As long as I'm not murdering, raping, slaving, or stealing from them, my house, and the land it sits on, is not their business.
henry quirk wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:18 amHow is my leaving other folks alone to live as they choose, and my expecting to be left alone to live as I choose, inconsiderate?

I fully expect for others to recognize and respect my exclusive claim to my life, liberty, and property just as I recognize and respect their exclusive claims to their own lives, liberties, and properties.

I truly can't see how folks recognizing and respecting each other's claims to their own lives, liberties, and properties can make anyone other than busybodies, murderers, rapists, thieves, and slavers miserable.
henry quirk wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:22 am So leave the other guy alone.
henry quirk wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:29 am if I willy-nilly stored lethally radioactive materials on my property, I'd be violating my neighbors' lives, liberties, and properties.
henry quirk wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 3:52 am Folks ought to have whatever laws they need.
henry quirk wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:29 am If hiring folks to direct you is what you want, then keep doin' that.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:19 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:15 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:10 pm
That's because it's not a "system." So it will "work" just fine for the purposes of keeping people free, so long as the "system-loving" types are not allowed to ruin things.

Great minds think alike. 👍
We all know ....
Yeah, I knew that was the high-quality response I could expect from you. :lol:

Don't worry...I really don't mind. I expect it, and find it as reassuringly predictable as the sun in summertime. ☀️
More honest and intelligent than any response you've ever given on here. It really is pathetic the way you gush around him. So much for being 'free men' :lol:
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henry quirk wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:31 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:14 pmit's law of the jungle
Of course not. As usual, you're not thinking it thru.

Again...
henry quirk wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:31 pm
henry quirk wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:07 amAs long as I'm not murdering, raping, slaving, or stealing from them, my atomic pile is not their business.

As long as I'm not murdering, raping, slaving, or stealing from them, my house, and the land it sits on, is not their business.
henry quirk wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:18 amHow is my leaving other folks alone to live as they choose, and my expecting to be left alone to live as I choose, inconsiderate?

I fully expect for others to recognize and respect my exclusive claim to my life, liberty, and property just as I recognize and respect their exclusive claims to their own lives, liberties, and properties.

I truly can't see how folks recognizing and respecting each other's claims to their own lives, liberties, and properties can make anyone other than busybodies, murderers, rapists, thieves, and slavers miserable.
henry quirk wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:22 am So leave the other guy alone.
henry quirk wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:29 am if I willy-nilly stored lethally radioactive materials on my property, I'd be violating my neighbors' lives, liberties, and properties.
henry quirk wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 3:52 am Folks ought to have whatever laws they need.
henry quirk wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:29 am If hiring folks to direct you is what you want, then keep doin' that.
I'm not even bothering to read it. Enough is enough. I have better things to do than keep banging my head against the brick wall of what passes as your 'mind'.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:15 pmyou continually bang on about this 'freedom' thing that you are...incapable of describing.
As I've said many times, across multiple threads: to be free is to be self-directing, self-responsible, and self-reliant.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:31 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:19 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:15 pm

We all know ....
Yeah, I knew that was the high-quality response I could expect from you. :lol:

Don't worry...I really don't mind. I expect it, and find it as reassuringly predictable as the sun in summertime. ☀️
More honest and intelligent than any response you've ever given on here. It really is pathetic the way you gush around him. So much for being 'free men' :lol:
Sorry, Veggie. I can't be bothered with the ad homs.

But you should bother with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jgi6kC5j3M
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henry quirk wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:33 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:15 pmyou continually bang on about this 'freedom' thing that you are...incapable of describing.
As I've said many times, across multiple threads: to be free is to be self-directing, self-responsible, and self-reliant.
...and not being fiddled about by some totalitarian "social plan" run by elitist despots.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:33 pmI have better things to do than keep banging my head against the brick wall of what passes as your 'mind'.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:35 pm
henry quirk wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:33 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:15 pmyou continually bang on about this 'freedom' thing that you are...incapable of describing.
As I've said many times, across multiple threads: to be free is to be self-directing, self-responsible, and self-reliant.
What's stopping you, fuckhead? I don't give a shit how you want to live.
Nuthin'. I am self-directing, self-responsible, and self-reliant. You should try it.
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