The Contradiction of the Point

[Eodnhoj7]

BUT I DO NOT HAVE ANY ISSUE.

As can be CLEARLY SEEN and PROVED here. As I ANSWER the QUESTIONS posed, and ASKED TO me.

you INABILITY to just ANSWER here AGAIN, is SHOWING just how MUCH of an ISSUE you REALLY HAVE here.


Have you made ANY 'rational claims'?

If yes, then WHERE and WHAT, EXACTLY?

1. That is your belief.

WHAT do you ASSUME or BELIEVE is my so-called and alleged 'belief' here?

2. A point divided results in further points.

Is 'this' YOUR so-called, and alleged, 'rational claim'?

1. My inability to answer your questions.

2. It is one of many.

[Age]

1. That is your belief.

WHAT do you ASSUME or BELIEVE is my so-called and alleged 'belief' here?

2. A point divided results in further points.

Is 'this' YOUR so-called, and alleged, 'rational claim'?

1. My inability to answer your questions.

Are you here DISPUTING, or 'trying to' REFUTE, the Fact that you are NOT ANSWERING my ACTUAL QUESTIONS ASKED?

Also, stating Facts is NOT necessarily A 'belief' AT ALL.

2. It is one of many.

Okay, and when you USE the 'rational' word, what is 'this' in RELATION TO, EXACTLY?

[Eodnhoj7]

WHAT do you ASSUME or BELIEVE is my so-called and alleged 'belief' here?


Is 'this' YOUR so-called, and alleged, 'rational claim'?

1. My inability to answer your questions.

Are you here DISPUTING, or 'trying to' REFUTE, the Fact that you are NOT ANSWERING my ACTUAL QUESTIONS ASKED?

Also, stating Facts is NOT necessarily A 'belief' AT ALL.

2. It is one of many.

Okay, and when you USE the 'rational' word, what is 'this' in RELATION TO, EXACTLY?

1. Facts are relative to the observer thus are subjective. Your observation of facts is your observation of how you see reality. Given the subjectivity of this it requires belief as your facts are relative to you and are not objective as such.

2. What do you mean by rational?

[Age]

1. My inability to answer your questions.

Are you here DISPUTING, or 'trying to' REFUTE, the Fact that you are NOT ANSWERING my ACTUAL QUESTIONS ASKED?

Also, stating Facts is NOT necessarily A 'belief' AT ALL.

2. It is one of many.

Okay, and when you USE the 'rational' word, what is 'this' in RELATION TO, EXACTLY?

1. Facts are relative to the observer thus are subjective.

EXACTLY.

AND, it is through 'this' process HOW 'objectivity' IS REACHED, ACHIEVED, OBTAINED, and GAINED, AS WELL.

Your observation of facts is your observation of how you see reality. Given the subjectivity of this it requires belief as your facts are relative to you and are not objective as such.

LOL
LOL
LOL

you could NOT be MORE Wrong AND MORE Incorrect, ONCE AGAIN.

2. What do you mean by rational?

Maybe the EXACT OPPOSITE OF you.

[Wizard22]

1. Facts are relative to the observer thus are subjective.

Not exactly...

Facts are objective. But how the person reacts and responds to the fact, is the subjective part.

The object is outside the subject, not within it, as your statement implies.

[Eodnhoj7]

Are you here DISPUTING, or 'trying to' REFUTE, the Fact that you are NOT ANSWERING my ACTUAL QUESTIONS ASKED?

Also, stating Facts is NOT necessarily A 'belief' AT ALL.


Okay, and when you USE the 'rational' word, what is 'this' in RELATION TO, EXACTLY?

1. Facts are relative to the observer thus are subjective.

EXACTLY.

AND, it is through 'this' process HOW 'objectivity' IS REACHED, ACHIEVED, OBTAINED, and GAINED, AS WELL.

Your observation of facts is your observation of how you see reality. Given the subjectivity of this it requires belief as your facts are relative to you and are not objective as such.

LOL
LOL
LOL

you could NOT be MORE Wrong AND MORE Incorrect, ONCE AGAIN.

2. What do you mean by rational?

Maybe the EXACT OPPOSITE OF you.

1. And that objectivity is relative if all is relative.

2. And what do you mean by "wrong" and "incorrect"?

3. So what is rationality?

[Eodnhoj7]

1. Facts are relative to the observer thus are subjective.

Not exactly...

Facts are objective. But how the person reacts and responds to the fact, is the subjective part.

The object is outside the subject, not within it, as your statement implies.

The nature of objectivity being observed as shared subjective states necessitates the fact as fundamentally being group subjectivity.

[Age]

1. Facts are relative to the observer thus are subjective.

EXACTLY.

AND, it is through 'this' process HOW 'objectivity' IS REACHED, ACHIEVED, OBTAINED, and GAINED, AS WELL.

Your observation of facts is your observation of how you see reality. Given the subjectivity of this it requires belief as your facts are relative to you and are not objective as such.

LOL
LOL
LOL

you could NOT be MORE Wrong AND MORE Incorrect, ONCE AGAIN.

2. What do you mean by rational?

Maybe the EXACT OPPOSITE OF you.

1. And that objectivity is relative if all is relative.

VERY True, and ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY True AS WELL

2. And what do you mean by "wrong" and "incorrect"?

But I NEVER WROTE such 'things'.

Are you SURE you are SEEING and READING the ACTUAL WORDS that I AM SAYING and WRITING here?

3. So what is rationality?

The quality of being able to, or being endowed with the capacity to, reason.

[Wizard22]

The nature of objectivity being observed as shared subjective states necessitates the fact as fundamentally being group subjectivity.

Objects are outside of groups too.

[Eodnhoj7]

EXACTLY.

AND, it is through 'this' process HOW 'objectivity' IS REACHED, ACHIEVED, OBTAINED, and GAINED, AS WELL.



LOL
LOL
LOL

you could NOT be MORE Wrong AND MORE Incorrect, ONCE AGAIN.


Maybe the EXACT OPPOSITE OF you.

1. And that objectivity is relative if all is relative.

VERY True, and ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY True AS WELL

2. And what do you mean by "wrong" and "incorrect"?

But I NEVER WROTE such 'things'.

Are you SURE you are SEEING and READING the ACTUAL WORDS that I AM SAYING and WRITING here?

3. So what is rationality?

The quality of being able to, or being endowed with the capacity to, reason.

This will cut to the chase: What is reason?

Can you explain reason without using reasoning in a meaningless circle?

[Eodnhoj7]

The nature of objectivity being observed as shared subjective states necessitates the fact as fundamentally being group subjectivity.

Objects are outside of groups too.

Are they really? Because to observe an object is to incorporate it into thought, to incorporate it into thought is to incorporate it within the self. Group observation of an object is multiple subjective states aligning. Individual observation of an object is the multiple angles of the self aligning (i.e. observing the stove is hot requires the eyes, skin, so on an so forth. Observing a play results in the manifestation of different emotional states.). Objectivity requires multiplicity and multiplicity requires distinction. Distinction requires one thing standing apart from another and with this comes contradiction.

[Age]

1. And that objectivity is relative if all is relative.

VERY True, and ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY True AS WELL

2. And what do you mean by "wrong" and "incorrect"?

But I NEVER WROTE such 'things'.

Are you SURE you are SEEING and READING the ACTUAL WORDS that I AM SAYING and WRITING here?

3. So what is rationality?

The quality of being able to, or being endowed with the capacity to, reason.

This will cut to the chase:

What IS 'the chase'? And, what WILL 'cut to' 'the chase'?

What is reason?

1. Do you know what a dictionary IS?

2. Do you know how to USE a dictionary?

Now, the dictionary that I looked in had eight different 'definitions', or 'answers' to your 'question' here. Would you like all eight of them, or just one particular one of them, or would you like don't 'thing' ELSE here?

If you were MORE SPECIFIC with your QUESTIONING here, then I can be MORE SPECIFIC with MY ANSWERS, FOR you.

Can you explain reason without using reasoning in a meaningless circle?

YES.

But are you even ABLE to SEE or COMPREHEND 'things' IN A NON MEANINGLESS CIRCLE?

[Wizard22]

Are they really? Because to observe an object is to incorporate it into thought, to incorporate it into thought is to incorporate it within the self. Group observation of an object is multiple subjective states aligning. Individual observation of an object is the multiple angles of the self aligning (i.e. observing the stove is hot requires the eyes, skin, so on an so forth. Observing a play results in the manifestation of different emotional states.). Objectivity requires multiplicity and multiplicity requires distinction. Distinction requires one thing standing apart from another and with this comes contradiction.

Yes, objects are not mind-reliant. Objects exist without perceiving them. When you go to sleep at night, the Moon, the Sun, the Earth, the Universe doesn't stop existing.

[Gary Childress]

Are they really? Because to observe an object is to incorporate it into thought, to incorporate it into thought is to incorporate it within the self. Group observation of an object is multiple subjective states aligning. Individual observation of an object is the multiple angles of the self aligning (i.e. observing the stove is hot requires the eyes, skin, so on an so forth. Observing a play results in the manifestation of different emotional states.). Objectivity requires multiplicity and multiplicity requires distinction. Distinction requires one thing standing apart from another and with this comes contradiction.

Yes, objects are not mind-reliant. Objects exist without perceiving them. When you go to sleep at night, the Moon, the Sun, the Earth, the Universe doesn't stop existing.

I hope you are right, Wizard22. As best I can reckon, the alternative to that claim is very unsettling to think about. My own death is also very unpleasant to think about. Will I ever reach a point where I must choose between one or the other? Where I must choose between solipsism or else come to an end? Being presented with that dilemma is the greatest fear imaginable to me. I pray there is no such dilemma. They are both equally horrible.

I give this knowledge to others in the hope that it is the right thing to do.

[Wizard22]

I hope you are right, Wizard22. As best I can reckon, the alternative to that claim is very unsettling to think about. My own death is also very unpleasant to think about. Will I ever reach a point where I must choose between one or the other? Where I must choose between solipsism or else come to an end? Being presented with that dilemma is the greatest fear imaginable to me. I pray there is no such dilemma. They are both equally horrible.

I give this knowledge to others in the hope that it is the right thing to do.

Consciousness of all lifeforms 'wakes up to' Existence larger and greater than itself.

The Ego defends itself against the Unknown, using Fear, recoiling 'inward', the first instinct and emotion.

I think that's what people interpret as Godliness and Divinity, after confronting Existence.