Distributing Hate

[Wizard22]

If Age's father is bullied by Harbal at work,
And if Age's father comes home and beats Age,
Then who is really to Blame, Age's father, or Harbal?
(or Age?)

[Age]

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Well with some of the 'behaviors' of these ones it would be BEST HATED, OBVIOUSLY.

[Age]

And why do you think most of us dismiss most of your messages? I don't think your judgement is held in very high esteem in these parts.

Can you list out the usernames of this "Us" you appeal to? Thanks in advance.

Yes, but I would be reluctant to do it without their permission.

you could add me.

See, BELIEVING God as being 'male gendered' is NOT a judgment held in very high esteem in these parts AT ALL. That is; unless, OF COURSE, 'you' are ANOTHER one who BELIEVES God is a 'male gendered thing' AS WELL.

[Wizard22]

Women are too emotional and unreasonable to be Godly.

Why are there no female Philosophers? And no, Ayn Rand and Simone de Beauvoir, do not count. I'm talking about real philosophers.

[Age]

Yes, but I would be reluctant to do it without their permission.

So it's a mystical, cryptic, hidden, invisible "Us", got it...

NO it IS and WAS NOT.

How many "Us" is there, can you at least give me a number... 5, 10, 50, 100?

MOST people here DISMISS most of "immanuel can's" messages, and this is just BECAUSE most of 'immanuel can's" messages are BASED UPON "immanuel can's" BELIEF that God is A "he". Which, OBVIOUSLY, could NOT be MORE of a Wrong, Incorrect, and STUPID message POSSIBLE.

And, most people here DISMISS "immanuel can's" messages BECAUSE most people are NOT STUPID enough to BELIEVE that a 'male gendered thing' CREATED the Universe, among other 'things', and a JUDGMENT like 'this' is BEST NEVER held in ANY 'esteem'.

As "harbal" was POINTING OUT and SHOWING "immanuel can's" messages are generally always related to some UNBELIEVABLE 'male God' and some PERCEIVED BETTER 'political side'.

[Wizard22]

Age, you being on Hairball's "team", helps me out immensely. Thank you!

[Age]

Slaves, victims of ongoing human rights violations, children with abusive parents, victims of ongoing bullying, people regularly treated with disrespect in certain types of employment situations may feel regular hatred for their abusers and this isn't pathological. It is natural to hate that which hates you. It imight even be healthy if you have not good way to create distance from the abusive person(s).

A strong current in Christianity is the theme to "love your enemies". What does that mean, when your natural tendency is to hate those that hate you?

Well, OBVIOUSLY, IF the latter did NOT hate 'you', nor ANY one "else", then there would NOT ANY one SHOWING the 'natural tendency' to HATE 'those' who ABUSE 'you'.

WHY would ANY adult HATE a child, in the first place, especially considering the Fact that a child could NEVER ABUSE a FULLY matured adult human being?

ONLY 'you', adult human beings, ABUSE children. So, NATURALLY, the 'natural tendency' for children to HATE 'you' ABUSIVE adults EXISTS. Which, UNFORTUNATELY, is what has LED 'you', adult human beings, to HATE "each other" AND 'children'.

[Wizard22]

That is; unless, OF COURSE, 'you' are ANOTHER one who BELIEVES God is a 'male gendered thing' AS WELL.

https://is2.4chan.org/pol/1691751807757465.webm

[Age]

I don't rule that out, but I don't try to overpower my reactions. Sometimes I can feel both hatred and empathy for the same person. Sometimes empathy comes later. If it is so clear the person hating me is damaged, I may not feel hatred. That I feel direct empathy while they are, for example, hurling rage at me, well, not so likely. But when I'm back home perhaps. Love is not really on the table, unless love is already part of the relationship. But I don't have the Christian goal of loving that which is hating me. I suppose on a literal battlefield I might even weep after killing someone. But as long as someone is hating me and they seem to have their wits about them - they are not developmentally cognitively disabled or psychotic - then empathy will likely not be there most of the time. Should they stop hating me or actively trying to damage me, then the empathy can come. But I don't try to override my not so Christian reactions, no.

I will try to organize my life so that I don't have contact with them. I am not attached to hating and prefer not to. I had a narcissist as a boss and I hated this person fairly often while I worked there. When I could leave, I did, and very much so I no longer needed to experience hate coming at me or my own hate.

My interpretation of 'Love thy enemy' is the presumption that you should act as-if you were their Father, meaning you are obligated to understand the source of any person's wrath and ire, and address that. If it's justified, then mercy and forgiveness are possible. If it's unjustified, then hate stems from ignorance.

BUT WHY ALL so-called 'wrath and ire' has come-to-exist in ANY one of 'you' IS 'justified'. ONLY one who has NOT YET GAINED 'understanding', itself, would SAY and CLAIM that that the source of ANY person's 'wrath and ire' IS 'unjustified'.

[Age]

Are there any things you think it's legitimate to hate?

Injustice.

Sacrificing the innocent to demonstrate others your own extravagance and vanity.

Child-sacrifice. Genital Mutilation. Murder. Abortion. All of these symbolize how evil targets the newlyborn and unborn alike.

If Human Morality cannot protect children, then what good is it at all? How could it be considered moral?

SO, 'you', "wizard22" see it as legitimate TO HATE what 'you', "yourself", DO.

[Wizard22]

So what then is the nature of Justice?

[Age]

Therer were six of us on on a recent thread where I was keeping count. If I could be bothered, I'm sure I could find considerably more who totally reject IC's "message", and, indeed, also most of the crap you come out with.

Your drunk pub mates don't count.

IT WAS WRITTEN, 'on a recent thread'. BUT, "wizard22", 'sees' and takes 'this' TO MEAN and REFER TO 'people in a pub'.

'This' is JUST MORE PROOF of just how BLIND and DEAF some people HAD BECOME, back in the days when this was being written, BECAUSE of HOW TIGHTLY they HELD ONTO THEIR OWN BELIEFS, which MADE 'them' TOTALLY BLIND and DEAF, and which MADE 'confirmation biases' the ONLY 'thing/s' that 'they' could SEE and HEAR.

[Wizard22]

Age...you really need to lessen your autism when you can't tell when I'm clowning on Hairball, which is pretty much always since he'll never have a serious thought in his head.

[Age]

The so-called 'need' to avoid embarrassment is a major part of the reason WHY 'you', adult human beings, KEEP BLAMING OTHER 'things' for what 'you' have CAUSED and CREATED here.

Hey Age, why don't you quit blaming "ADULTS", and start blaming yourself?

Have you FORGOTTEN that it IS you who IS the ONE who CALLS and LABELS 'me' A 'child' and/or TOO AUTISTIC to function NORMALLY?

Also, WHENEVER ANY one of 'you' EVER even QUESTIONS and/or 'TRIES TO' CHALLENGE 'me', THEN 'you' WILL SEE that it IS 'I' who ACCEPTS and TAKES FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR absolutely EVERY 'thing' HERE.

But 'you', "wizard22", ARE A LONG WAYS OFF FROM DISCOVERING 'this'.

[Age]

If Age's father is bullied by Harbal at work,
And if Age's father comes home and beats Age,
Then who is really to Blame, Age's father, or Harbal?
(or Age?)

There is NO 'blame' here. BUT, there ARE CERTAINLY REASONS WHY ALL of 'this' has happened.

AND, IF and WHEN 'you' FIND OUT and DISCOVER the REASONS ALSO, then 'you' WILL ALSO NOT BE SO DISTORTED and DELUDED here.