Why do many "philosophers" (especially) users on this website, act as if there is no God. Or evidence of God?

[Toppsy Kretts]

Before that, the Bible never even mentioned God or Jesus. The Turin Shroud started out as a practical joke, with a table cloth, that got out of hand and went just that bit too far.

I am afraid it is you who has been lied to Mr.Harbal. Jesus was mentioned long before we think.
https://coldcasechristianity.com/writin ... existed%20(and%20gave%20birth%20to,Jesus%20Was%20Born%20of%20a%20Virgin,-The%20Bah%C3%A1%E2%80%99%C3%AD%20faith

Not to mention directly after his death, unlike the incredibly false information you tried to validate through no extent historical research whatsoever it seems.
https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/newtesta ... en%20years.

[Toppsy Kretts]

Since you quoted "philosophers", I presume you mean Hobbiests and Normies.

I don't think he would have deliberately left you out, so we can assume he included idiots, also.

Or you could have a true philosophical conversation without ego as a true philosopher and don't get "Butt hurt" when someone questions your validation, like a child.

[Toppsy Kretts]

Catholic culture .org. alright.

i am not catholic friend. ask me what i believe and i will tell you.

It's the site you linked to. That's not a reliable source of that type of information.

Of course it is.

[Harbal]

Before that, the Bible never even mentioned God or Jesus. The Turin Shroud started out as a practical joke, with a table cloth, that got out of hand and went just that bit too far.

I am afraid it is you who has been lied to Mr.Harbal. Jesus was mentioned long before we think.
https://coldcasechristianity.com/writin ... existed%20(and%20gave%20birth%20to,Jesus%20Was%20Born%20of%20a%20Virgin,-The%20Bah%C3%A1%E2%80%99%C3%AD%20faith

Not to mention directly after his death, unlike the incredibly false information you tried to validate through no extent historical research whatsoever it seems.
https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/newtesta ... en%20years.

I can assure you, Toppsy, my sources are impecable. I was going to bring up the Turin Shroud soup stain, but I can see your mind is closed.

[Toppsy Kretts]

I can assure you, Toppsy, my sources are impecable. I was going to bring up the Turin Shroud soup stain, but I can see your mind is closed.

It is closed to my friend for you choose instead to inspect a claimed truth, you prohibit yourself from the actions of recognizing truth beyond what you choose to accept and or believe. You stand your ground possible very widely open, but yet you choose to be closed minded in the sense of not wanting to be proven wrong if it came as possible.

The Shroud of Turin is a relic of Christ and you choose to disrespect to believes of another thinker just to merely validate your claim.

I have given valuable evidence to support mine. and looking for a different outlook if it can be validated properly. I have countered your argument s in which you provided with extra evidence to counter you r claims.

Every bit of research you have given and responded I have dismantled and trashed, as should your idiotic ideas of believing there is simply no God.


impeccable...you missed a C.

[Harbal]

I can assure you, Toppsy, my sources are impecable. I was going to bring up the Turin Shroud soup stain, but I can see your mind is closed.

It is closed to my friend for you choose instead to inspect a claimed truth, you prohibit yourself from the actions of recognizing truth beyond what you choose to accept and or believe. You stand your ground possible very widely open, but yet you choose to be closed minded in the sense of not wanting to be proven wrong if it came as possible.

The Shroud of Turin is a relic of Christ and you choose to disrespect to believes of another thinker just to merely validate your claim.

I have given valuable evidence to support mine. and looking for a different outlook if it can be validated properly. I have countered your argument s in which you provided with extra evidence to counter you r claims.

Every bit of research you have given and responded I have dismantled and trashed, as should your idiotic ideas of believing there is simply no God.

Whatever all that means, Toppsy, it's fine with me. I still stand by what I said about the Table Cloth of Turin, though.

impeccable...you missed a C.

I can see I'm not dealing with a fool.

[Flannel Jesus]

i am not catholic friend. ask me what i believe and i will tell you.

It's the site you linked to. That's not a reliable source of that type of information.

Of course it is.

No. Christian propaganda websites and magazines fabricate nonsense left and right. There's a reason why you linked to a site like that rather than something remotely reliable - because remotely reliable sites don't have any reason to think that stuff is true.

[Age]

Catholic culture .org. alright.

i am not catholic friend. ask me what i believe and i will tell you.

What do you believe?

[Toppsy Kretts]

I can see I'm not dealing with a fool.

I just want you to understand that all the evidence I bring is evidential and valid, whether it brings you and I to a stop-hold. I need you to understand why and how I am being validated.

even though you don't agree, I would ask you try and prove your point on your take on the shroud. Because I don't follow.


These are conversations. this is humanity, the truth of what we are. the thinkers of the world. it seems as if they congregate here. in a search in meaning to express unknowingly of their own avatars and characters to be judged, lets not use this to downgrade the knowledge in which we hold and to use this for the greater advantage. we have to be acceptable to change and to being wrong, whether it deemed you or I.

Let us chat.

Let us learn.

[Toppsy Kretts]

You have committed 3 falsehoods tonight:

No. Christian propaganda websites and magazines fabricate nonsense left and right.

Where is their proof? I have validated all of it. There is nothing false about what I state. Jesus was the son of God. For you have not correctly nor affectively countered it.
You insist on displaying displeasure to the liking in which I have towards being a Christiaan. Yet you cant send one piece of valuable evidence my way...I wonder why...ill tell yo why.

Its because you cant stand to accept anything beyond what you cant validate, understand fully, comprehend to the most intense reason imaginable or acknowledge that there is something above your pathetic life as a human, an ultimate force that could snap you out of existence any second.

There's a reason why you linked to a site like that rather than something remotely reliable - because remotely reliable sites don't have any reason to think that stuff is true.

Your are correct there is a reason. the reason is because these sites are factual. Read the websites again and try to wrap your mind around it. If you disbelieve them then how about present to me all of your evidence and logic in reason and then ill try and actually stop feeling as if I am speaking to a child who smells strawberries for the first time and considers that this is the reason and concerns the whole world






My deduction is, is that you can't bear to comprehend something over your life that has so much potential, and so much power. Is so loving, so caring, that everything about them can either nurture you like a mother, which seems as if you never had the way you express your ideals on a life without something so loving and caring above the whole universe, Or take away the next time you want to inhale a breath. I have stated over and over. It is obvious to many people smarter than you and smarter than I, that it is applicably absurd to assume that in the whole grand span of the universe, that there simply is no God.

I deduct that it is an ego thing, Maybe you've had a bunch of accomplishments? Maybe you've validated certain things you didn't know you could validate, and in that moment achieved the correct answer? Maybe you have in the sense, helped certain people with the knowledge that you have gained, and therefore you have no reason to doubt yourself, to the extent that I am bringing up information to apply the effect that you should be doubting yourself and you perceive it as degrading? Or maybe it's all three?

You sound very unintelligent, whenever you express the opinion that it would be “unintelligible” to try and validate something that you simply acknowledge as preposterous to even exist, AKA God. Son, there is no more valuable, no more persistent, no more verifying evidence. Then the claims and factual text. And accommodations of scripture from other religions to fabrics to DNA to. Eyewitness accounts laid out amongst papyrus and stone text that confirms the existence of my God as a Christian. Jesus Christ. You have failed all of us as a “philosopher”, and many more in all the same as you. Trying to confirm the existence of a non God. That we are all alone in the sense of the world, or simply just to. Dismantle the idea of the one true King,

My final deduction, is that the reason you choose not to understand the falseness of your ways is because you have convinced yourself that your knowledge is above mine. And it may be so, in certain areas. But it is still so falsely imbecile, equivalent to an ant for you to sit there and type behind the screen that you have confirmed the non existence of Jesus Christ. When in fact you haven't. Your evidence is unreliable. Your claims are invaluable and you have no context, personalization of ideas, nor contributions to the philosophical side of a conversation.

I am saddened by you friend.

[Toppsy Kretts]

What do you believe?

Thank you for asking Mr. Age. Let me tell you of such things.

I believe in the Bible. For not just a book, but a library. It is a collection of books displayed in the likeliness of God.
I know I am a child of Christ because things has happen to me that I cannot explain, from sharp hard experiences to unexplainable actions that took place time after time to get me to a specific point in my life that now I am most definitely grateful for.
I can prove the existence of God because he has shown me the proof.
I have to assume you are not ready to experience the realism of God just yet.
You may need some serious convincing to believe there is someone who can save you from eternal torture and forever love even when your parents fail you.
I pray it isn't too late and you loose a loved one in the convincing.
Whether or not you have heard the word of Christ before, now you have, so that makes you apart of ones who have "heard" the words of Christ and now no exception can be made for you for you have shushed away the knowledge of Christ and the proverbs he has set before you.

[Age]

What do you believe?

Thank you for asking Mr. Age. Let me tell you of such things.

I believe in the Bible.

But what does SAYING, 'I believe in the Bible', even MEAN or REFER TO, EXACTLY?

For example do you BELIEVE;

That the bible is or was written?

That EVERY word in the bible was written by God, Itself?

That EVERY word in the bible is IRREFUTABLY True?

That the bible is somehow special?

So, AGAIN, what is 'it' EXACTLY, which you SAY you 'believe in' here?

For not just a book, but a library.

So, 'it' is just a book that 'houses' more or other books, or stories. Is 'this' what you BELIEVE here, or IN?

It is a collection of books displayed in the likeliness of God.

Usually 'drawings' or 'pictures' are considered 'in the likeness of' some 'thing', and NOT usually just WORDS, themselves.

I know I am a child of Christ

What does 'this' even MEAN, EXACTLY?

Also, what is 'your' ANSWER to the QUESTION, 'Who am 'I'?'

It could be argued that 'one' would HAVE TO KNOW the, proper AND correct, ANSWER to the QUESTION 'Who am 'I'?' BEFORE 'they' could, accurately, make the CLAIM that they are 'a child' of some 'thing' other than A 'parent'.

because things has happen to me that I cannot explain, from sharp hard experiences to unexplainable actions that took place time after time to get me to a specific point in my life that now I am most definitely grateful for.

Okay 'this' is all well and good and which happens to a great deal of 'you', human beings, but what is the EXACT 'connection' between 'you' being an individual human being, EXACTLY like what 'jesus christ' was, and 'you' being allegedly A 'child of christ'?

I can prove the existence of God because he has shown me the proof.

PROVING God exists is about one of the most SIMPLEST and EASIEST 'things' to do in Life. PROVING that God is a "he", however, I would love to 'see'.

So, FORGET ABOUT proving the existence of God, for now, will you PROVE that God IS a 'he' for 'us' here now?

If no, then WHY NOT?

But if yes, then GREAT. The "other" BELIEVERS of God have ALL FAILED, or IGNORED, to do so.

I have to assume you are not ready to experience the realism of God just yet.

'you' can ASSUME 'this' till 'your hearts content', as some might say, and ASSUME 'this' till the day 'you' can NOT anymore, but doing so will NEVER make what 'you' ARE ASSUMING to be in ANY way true NOR false.

Also, if 'you' had READ what I have previously written, then 'you' would NOT be ASSUMING such a Truly ABSURD and RIDICULOUS ASSUMPTION as 'you' ARE here and SAY that 'you' HAVE TO. Which is just ANOTHER Truly ASSUMPTION to HAVE and BE-HOLD.

You may need some serious convincing to believe there is someone who can save you from eternal torture and forever love even when your parents fail you.

WOW 'your' BELIEF/S here have LED 'you' COMPLETELY ASTRAY.

I pray it isn't too late and you loose a loved one in the convincing.

'This' here does NOT even make ANY 'sense', TO 'me' anyway.

Whether or not you have heard the word of Christ before, now you have,

WHERE and WHEN?

And what did that 'thing' SAY, EXACTLY?

so that makes you apart of ones who have "heard" the words of Christ and now no exception can be made for you for you have shushed away the knowledge of Christ and the proverbs he has set before you.

LOL

Here is YET ANOTHER PRIME example of one who ASSUMES SOME 'thing', and then lets 'that assumption' CONTROL and DICTATE EVERY OTHER 'thought' along the way. Even if the original ASSUMPTION could NOT have been FURTHER AWAY FROM what the ACTUAL Truth IS.

Also, and LOL by the way, all I did was just WRITE four words ONLY and ASK;

'What do you believe?'

And from just these four words ALONE 'you' MADE the ASSUMPTION 'you' DID, AND, the CONCLUSION 'you' HAVE arrived AT now.

Only on the VERY RAREST of occasions could these adult human beings, back in 'this era', REMAIN OPEN.

[Age]

I can see I'm not dealing with a fool.

I just want you to understand that all the evidence I bring is evidential and valid,

So, the 'evidence' that you bring is 'evidential', right?

whether it brings you and I to a stop-hold. I need you to understand why and how I am being validated.

even though you don't agree, I would ask you try and prove your point on your take on the shroud. Because I don't follow.


These are conversations. this is humanity, the truth of what we are. the thinkers of the world. it seems as if they congregate here. in a search in meaning to express unknowingly of their own avatars and characters to be judged, lets not use this to downgrade the knowledge in which we hold and to use this for the greater advantage. we have to be acceptable to change and to being wrong, whether it deemed you or I.

Let us chat.

Let us learn.

[Flannel Jesus]

Not everyone grasps that religious publishers don't have the same sort of credibility. That's okay. Perhaps you'll figure that out one day.

[Toppsy Kretts]

'What do you believe?'
.

I no longer will participate within the perimeters of this conversation. Thank you all for letting me share my side, I am choosing to move along in my philosophical blogging to a new conversation apart from you Mr. Age. For it has become apparent to me that you cannot understand the simplicity of my words and choose not to understand why I am believing so but choosing to argue by having something to say in general with no context.

Ask and you shall receive.

I have done just as you asked, now you abuse my time.

It is finished