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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:02 am We are made out of the stuff that's blown out of stars. Why isn't that enough for some people?
Because people do not want to hear the truth, they cannot handle the truth which is....

Basically, stars are big exploding balls of gas, mostly hydrogen and helium. Our nearest star, the Sun, is so hot that the huge amount of hydrogen is undergoing a constant star-wide nuclear reaction, like in a hydrogen bomb.

In essence, life lives and dies, all because of it's hydrogen bomb nature.
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attofishpi wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:43 am I would be interested in any links or vid detailing the 'mirroring' of the star system to ancient structures
For what it's worth -- seems like there's enough to be intriguing if not significant... :)

Ancient building sites that have apparently been found to mirror the Pleiades:
Caral site in Peru
Winterbourne stoke barrow in England
Nuragic structures on the island of Sardinia
Chaco Canyon in New Mexico
The seven pyramids of Tikal
The pyramids of Abusir in Egypt
Tomb complex of the Hongwu emperor, the founder of the Ming Dynasty
(and more)

Some links:

Potauli... Mirror of the Pleiades?: https://apalacheresearch.com/2019/07/05 ... stellation

Plan of prehistoric stilt village in Maranhão Brazil may resemble the Pleiades: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 9X23002985

As Below, So Above? New Evidence of an Ancient Connection Between Earth and Mars (but also talks about the Pleiades):https://beforeatlantis.com/2021/05/19/a ... -and-mars/

Significance of the Pleiades to various cultures: https://keysofenoch.org/the-pleiades/

Many ancient monuments including some British standing stone circles, Polynesian temples, and the pyramids in Egypt and South America were aligned to the rising of the star constellation of the Pleiades at October's end: https://annafranklinhearthwitch.wordpre ... er's%20end
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Lacewing wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:03 pm Many ancient building sites across the Earth were built to mirror the Pleiades star cluster.
What do you think is reasonable in considering our origins?
Really?

how do you account for the extensive and growing evidence of human evolution?
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Lacewing wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:08 pm [
Caral site in Peru
Winterbourne stoke barrow in England
Nuragic structures on the island of Sardinia
Chaco Canyon in New Mexico
The seven pyramids of Tikal
The pyramids of Abusir in Egypt
Tomb complex of the Hongwu emperor, the founder of the Ming Dynasty
Even if these diverse cultures really modelled their buildings on a constellation, so what?
The main three pyramids are arguably modelled on Orion's belt.
This means nothing.
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Lacewing wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:08 pm
attofishpi wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:43 am I would be interested in any links or vid detailing the 'mirroring' of the star system to ancient structures
For what it's worth -- seems like there's enough to be intriguing if not significant... :)

Ancient building sites that have apparently been found to mirror the Pleiades:
Caral site in Peru
Winterbourne stoke barrow in England
Nuragic structures on the island of Sardinia
Chaco Canyon in New Mexico
The seven pyramids of Tikal
The pyramids of Abusir in Egypt
Tomb complex of the Hongwu emperor, the founder of the Ming Dynasty
(and more)

Some links:

Potauli... Mirror of the Pleiades?: https://apalacheresearch.com/2019/07/05 ... stellation

Plan of prehistoric stilt village in Maranhão Brazil may resemble the Pleiades: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 9X23002985

As Below, So Above? New Evidence of an Ancient Connection Between Earth and Mars (but also talks about the Pleiades):https://beforeatlantis.com/2021/05/19/a ... -and-mars/

Significance of the Pleiades to various cultures: https://keysofenoch.org/the-pleiades/

Many ancient monuments including some British standing stone circles, Polynesian temples, and the pyramids in Egypt and South America were aligned to the rising of the star constellation of the Pleiades at October's end: https://annafranklinhearthwitch.wordpre ... er's%20end
It's not even convincing to say that all these are modelled on the Pleiades.
None of these cultures think we came from the Pleiades.
the idea that these may or may not be modelled on the Pleidaes does not give any indication that we came from the stars.
None.
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Take it for what it’s worth, I often receive messages from the Pleiades. I’ve expressed myself back to them with beautiful harmonies on my pan flute.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:02 am We are made out of the stuff that's blown out of stars. Why isn't that enough for some people?
And what are stars made out of, EXACTLY? What 'stuff' are 'they' made out of, AND, what was the 'thing' that 'that stuff' was purportedly 'blown out of, EXACTLY'?

The ANSWERS by the way are, REALLY, rather VERY SIMPLE and EASY, ACTUALLY, by the way.
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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:27 am
Lacewing wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:49 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:07 am the Homo genus is evidenced by the appearance of H. habilis over 2 mya, while anatomically modern humans emerged in Africa approximately 300,000 years ago.
Is it far-fetched to think of Earth as a fertile garden that has been continually amended and tweaked, bringing it to the incredible diverse complexity that it has?

Just like the way that birds can unexpectedly drop seeds into your yard, and then suddenly you have a bunch of sunflowers. If the Universe is much more flowing and connected like a stream (which makes sense), rather than only being comprised of objects separated by distances as it appears to us (because of our own limited forms), then our garden may be continually receiving expansions and influences. And these additions fit into our 'human puzzle' exactly because ALL is connected with common signs/traits, even what we haven't yet experienced.

It does not make sense that Earth is an isolated occupied rock in an immensely vast field of unoccupied disconnected rocks.

It is our limited perception, tuned to a physical reality of a linear model, that prevents us from considering broader dimensions.
As I had mentioned, it is possible, so, not impossible.
However, possibility is always within a continuum from "not-likely" to "verified as real" depending on the credibility, reliability and objectivity of the specific human-based FSK of which the scientific-FSK is the most reliable thus the standard for all FSK.
The SO-CALLED 'scientific-fsk' CLAIMS that the Universe BEGUN, (just like some religions do by the way). BUT the Universe did NOT BEGIN, as CLAIMED by the people who do 'science', and the people who DO 'religion'. So, this so-called 'scientific-fsk' is NOT very 'reliable' AT ALL, when one LOOKS AT 'it', REALLY.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:27 am The positive point is your speculation is based on elements and variables which are empirically possible thus cannot be rejected.
As such, it is a matter of getting the empirical evidences to be justified and verified then to be confirmed as real or not.
Based on our current state of knowledge this speculation is possible but we have to be agnostic [very] on it.
BUT WHY CONTINUE TO ASSUME 'things', and THEN LOOK to SEE if THE ASSUMPTION is right and correct?

WHY NOT JUST LOOK AT ONLY what IS ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY True, Right, AND Correct, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, SOLELY and ONLY?

'you', adult human beings, in the days when this was being written, REALLY DID DO some 'things' VERY BACKWARDS.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:27 am In contrast the speculation that God exists as a real being with omni-qualities, is empirically impossible.
Here we have ANOTHER PRIME example of WHEN one MAKES the DEFINITIONS of words 'FIT IN WITH' what 'it' is CURRENTLY BELIEVING IS TRUE.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:27 am Thus there is no possibility at all for God to exists as real.
BUT 'God', in ANOTHER 'sense', IS IRREFUTABLY REAL, AND True.

'you', "veritas aequitas", just can NOT SEE 'this' BECAUSE 'you' ARE SO CLOSED and BLIND. As I have been POINTING OUT and SHOWING here, and as I have also been POINTING OUT and SHOWING the VERY REASONS WHY.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:27 am It is a non-starter as on the question of whether a real God exists or not.
"veritas aequtitas" could NOT provide here BETTER examples of 'confirmation bias' AT WORK, and AT PLAY. AND, be a BETTER example of WHY it took these human beings, BACK THEN, SO LONG to PROGRESS and MOVE FORWARD.
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Dontaskme wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:43 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:02 am We are made out of the stuff that's blown out of stars. Why isn't that enough for some people?
Because people do not want to hear the truth, they cannot handle the truth which is....
I'd say its more because the atoms that were created by these past stars formed into molecules and then arranged in such a complex way to give rise to intelligent sentience, and then that sentient being, us decided to question things further...that's why knowledge of being made of star stuff isn't quite enough!


Dontaskme wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:43 amBasically, stars are big exploding balls of gas, mostly hydrogen and helium. Our nearest star, the Sun, is so hot that the huge amount of hydrogen is undergoing a constant star-wide nuclear reaction, like in a hydrogen bomb.

In essence, life lives and dies, all because of it's hydrogen bomb nature.
Beyond hydrogen fusion, the Sun operates nothing like a hydrogen bomb.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:05 pm Take it for what it’s worth, I often receive messages from the Pleiades. I’ve expressed myself back to them with beautiful harmonies on my pan flute.
Video please.
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Sculptor wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:28 pm how do you account for the extensive and growing evidence of human evolution?
Don't things grow after you plant them? Don't we manipulate things all the time to change what they turn into? Why couldn't more advanced extraterrestrials do that to human beings?
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Sculptor wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:30 pm
Lacewing wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:08 pm [
Caral site in Peru
Winterbourne stoke barrow in England
Nuragic structures on the island of Sardinia
Chaco Canyon in New Mexico
The seven pyramids of Tikal
The pyramids of Abusir in Egypt
Tomb complex of the Hongwu emperor, the founder of the Ming Dynasty
Even if these diverse cultures really modelled their buildings on a constellation, so what?
The main three pyramids are arguably modelled on Orion's belt.
This means nothing.
It may be meaningless to you... but then, you've probably inhaled too much clay dust and it has hardened into a chunk in your brain.
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Lacewing wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:41 am Video please.
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Sculptor wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:34 pm It's not even convincing to say that all these are modelled on the Pleiades.
None of these cultures think we came from the Pleiades.
the idea that these may or may not be modelled on the Pleidaes does not give any indication that we came from the stars.
None.
Why don't you go sculpt something and allow other people to discuss ideas of interest to them? I don't think anybody here is claiming anything for certain, so you can calm down and get your cranky-ass off your high-horse.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:58 am
Lacewing wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:41 am Video please.
:lol: :lol:

I thought your alter-ego would be more like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=001E4ckGifI
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