Origins from the stars

[Lacewing]

Many ancient building sites across the Earth were built to mirror the Pleiades star cluster. It has been called "heaven's mirror", also described "as above, so below." The knowledge/ability for building the incredible megalithic structures, seemingly beyond human engineering/capability of the time, was -– according to legends -- accomplished at various sites with guidance and assistance from ‘gods from the stars’. There are many drawings around the world of god-like figures that could fly. Traditions also speak of ancestors coming from the Pleiades.

Perhaps our origins are reflected in signs such as these, left by numerous ancient cultures around the world.

Is it more far-fetched to consider: a) human beings were ‘seeded’ over 100,000 years ago on this 4.5 billion-year-old planet by advanced extraterrestrial beings of this 13.8 billion-year-old Universe, or b) we were created by a male god who created this Earth approx. 6,000 years ago, and then sacrificed his ‘only son’ on a cross?

We can see which idea seems more directly written and reduced down for a particular group/purpose, but it seems (to me) more reasonable to consider a broader scope of collective accounting throughout time and across the planet.

What do you think is reasonable in considering our origins?

[Impenitent]

a stork dropped me off...

-Imp

[Lacewing]

a stork dropped me off...

Apparently, a stork can only carry a fish up to 6" long, so it doesn't seem likely that it could carry a baby... regardless of what you may have heard and come to believe.

[Veritas Aequitas]

Is it more far-fetched to consider: a) human beings were ‘seeded’ over 100,000 years ago on this 4.5 billion-year-old planet by advanced extraterrestrial beings of this 13.8 billion-year-old Universe, or b) we were created by a male god who created this Earth approx. 6,000 years ago, and then sacrificed his ‘only son’ on a cross?

What do you think is reasonable in considering our origins?

(b) is an impossibility to be real.

(a) is possible but not rational.
because the fact is,
the Homo genus is evidenced by the appearance of H. habilis over 2 mya, while anatomically modern humans emerged in Africa approximately 300,000 years ago. WIKI.

It is possible [theoretically] advanced extraterrestrial beings could have triggered abiogenesis 3.5 billion years ago that evolved to the tree-of-life in the present.

• abiogenesis, the idea that life arose from nonlife more than 3.5 billion years ago on Earth. Abiogenesis proposes that the first life-forms generated were very simple and through a gradual process became increasingly complex.

[attofishpi]

Many ancient building sites across the Earth were built to mirror the Pleiades star cluster. It has been called "heaven's mirror", also described "as above, so below." The knowledge/ability for building the incredible megalithic structures, seemingly beyond human engineering/capability of the time, was -– according to legends -- accomplished at various sites with guidance and assistance from ‘gods from the stars’. There are many drawings around the world of god-like figures that could fly. Traditions also speak of ancestors coming from the Pleiades.

Perhaps our origins are reflected in signs such as these, left by numerous ancient cultures around the world.

Is it more far-fetched to consider: a) human beings were ‘seeded’ over 100,000 years ago on this 4.5 billion-year-old planet by advanced extraterrestrial beings of this 13.8 billion-year-old Universe, or b) we were created by a male god who created this Earth approx. 6,000 years ago, and then sacrificed his ‘only son’ on a cross?

We can see which idea seems more directly written and reduced down for a particular group/purpose, but it seems (to me) more reasonable to consider a broader scope of collective accounting throughout time and across the planet.

What do you think is reasonable in considering our origins?

A couple of years ago I saw a video by Randall Carlson detailing many man-made ancient structures including the pyramids etc.. where the mathematics of dimensions correlated to many cosmic positions, and the structure of how we measure time and natural cycles. I still can't find it, but I found this one which I think you will find very interesting - I am about 35 mins in and it goes for 2hrs, but do try and spare some time to watch - it seems thus far to be about the same stuff of the original video I had seen - I still want to find that one, it blew my mind!!

HIDDEN MATHEMATICS - Randall Carlson - Ancient Knowledge of Space, Time & Cosmic Cycles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7oyZGW99os&t=2249s

IF you haven't come across Randall Carlson and also Graham Hancock - they are worth checking out - Joe Rogan has interviewed the two together a couple of times on his podcast.

RE:
a) Extremely unlikely but I would be interested in any links or vid detailing the 'mirroring' of the star system to ancient structures, but yes I don't personally believe we were 'seeded' from outside of our solar system.
b) Yes, ridiculous notion which unfortunately in USA is something the brain dead evangelists pummel down others minds.

[Lacewing]

the Homo genus is evidenced by the appearance of H. habilis over 2 mya, while anatomically modern humans emerged in Africa approximately 300,000 years ago.

Is it far-fetched to think of Earth as a fertile garden that has been continually amended and tweaked, bringing it to the incredible diverse complexity that it has? Just like the way that birds can unexpectedly drop seeds into your yard, and then suddenly you have a bunch of sunflowers. If the Universe is much more flowing and connected like a stream (which makes sense), rather than only being comprised of objects separated by distances as it appears to us (because of our own limited forms), then our garden may be continually receiving expansions and influences. And these additions fit into our 'human puzzle' exactly because ALL is connected with common signs/traits, even what we haven't yet experienced.

It does not make sense that Earth is an isolated occupied rock in an immensely vast field of unoccupied disconnected rocks.

It is our limited perception, tuned to a physical reality of a linear model, that prevents us from considering broader dimensions.

[Lacewing]

HIDDEN MATHEMATICS - Randall Carlson - Ancient Knowledge of Space, Time & Cosmic Cycles

Thanks for sharing that. I've been popping around in it... and I think it's interesting to see how the language of geometry and mathematics makes up the structure of which so much of our reality is based. Somewhere around 1:32:30 in the video, he really started speaking my language.

I also think it's interesting to explore and accurately interpret actual knowledge contained in the Bible, rather than using it simplistically as literal religious direction from an archaic time.

I will explore more. And I will send you some links/info regarding ancient structure star alignment. Right now I'm headed out the door...

[Alexis Jacobi]

13.8 billion-year-old Universe

I do not know what the real facts are but they have been, or are said to be, revising all the numbers. Some calculate a far older origin point (24 billion years).

And some are now speaking that the origin point may be one among an infinite number. Basically that existence is eternal, without any beginning and without any end. There are also weird ideas about multi-verses that extend (if I understand) from the inside of black holes.

As it turns out, less is actually known as more is uncovered.

About the infinite question: this has always seemed to me the most *logical*. Existence is what exists. It must always exist since non-existence is not possible.

The only think I disagree with is that our particular manifest universe is said by some to have emerged from a point the size of an atom.

I have done my calculations and I cannot see how the origin point could have been smaller than a breadbox. I am in an extended argument with a guy who insists the origin point was the size of a house. Such ignorance!

[Harbal]

13.8 billion-year-old Universe

I do not know what the real facts are but they have been, or are said to be, revising all the numbers. Some calculate a far older origin point (24 billion years).

And some are now speaking that the origin point may be one among an infinite number. Basically that existence is eternal, without any beginning and without any end. There are also weird ideas about multi-verses that extend (if I understand) from the inside of black holes.

As it turns out, less is actually known as more is uncovered.

About the infinite question: this has always seemed to me the most *logical*. Existence is what exists. It must always exist since non-existence is not possible.

The only think I disagree with is that our particular manifest universe is said by some to have emerged from a point the size of an atom.

I have done my calculations and I cannot see how the origin point could have been smaller than a breadbox. I am in an extended argument with a guy who insists the origin point was the size of a house. Such ignorance!

I used to work with a bloke called Derek, but what I am about to say would still apply regardless of his name. Derek had one of those metal "cantilever" toolboxes; the type that sort of open out like a concertina. Well, the amount of stuff he could get in that box used to truly amaze me. The way he organised that toolbox in five minutes was something I could never have achieved in a month. So, yes, having witnessed Derek putting his tools away, I can easily conceive of the universe coming from something the size of a breadbox, or an even smaller food receptical.

[Age]

Many ancient building sites across the Earth were built to mirror the Pleiades star cluster. It has been called "heaven's mirror", also described "as above, so below." The knowledge/ability for building the incredible megalithic structures, seemingly beyond human engineering/capability of the time, was -– according to legends -- accomplished at various sites with guidance and assistance from ‘gods from the stars’. There are many drawings around the world of god-like figures that could fly. Traditions also speak of ancestors coming from the Pleiades.

Perhaps our origins are reflected in signs such as these, left by numerous ancient cultures around the world.

Is it more far-fetched to consider: a) human beings were ‘seeded’ over 100,000 years ago on this 4.5 billion-year-old planet by advanced extraterrestrial beings of this 13.8 billion-year-old Universe, or b) we were created by a male god who created this Earth approx. 6,000 years ago, and then sacrificed his ‘only son’ on a cross?

We can see which idea seems more directly written and reduced down for a particular group/purpose, but it seems (to me) more reasonable to consider a broader scope of collective accounting throughout time and across the planet.

What do you think is reasonable in considering our origins?

BOTH a) and b) are unreasonable when considering 'our' origins.

Firstly, what does the word even refer to, EXACTLY?

IF it is 'you', human beings, then it is SAID and CLAIMED that 'you', human beings, or the human species, has been around around for a couple or so millions of years, prior to when this was being written. So, which one, of
the three, is ACTUALLY Correct?

I KNOW you SAID and WROTE, 'over 100,000 years ago', but you could have also WRITTEN, 'over 6,000 years ago', and meant the SAME 'thing'. Anyway, the main issue with your a) here is that when most of 'you', human beings, in the days when this is being written, instantly or automatically, have A PRESUMPTION about what the 'extraterrestrial' word is referring to 'you' are completely MISSING THE MARK of what could be the ACTUAL IRREFUTABLE Truth here.

As for a one gendered only 'thing' creating what was being talked about here, the absolute ABSURDITY of such an occurrence would speak of itself, that is; to 'those' who are seeing and thinking CLEARLY.

Now, what IS ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY True, regarding the above,is ALREADY KNOWN, and VERY SIMPLE and EASY to ALSO come to LEARN, COMPREHEND, and UNDERSTAND.

[Age]

the Homo genus is evidenced by the appearance of H. habilis over 2 mya, while anatomically modern humans emerged in Africa approximately 300,000 years ago.

Is it far-fetched to think of Earth as a fertile garden that has been continually amended and tweaked, bringing it to the incredible diverse complexity that it has? Just like the way that birds can unexpectedly drop seeds into your yard, and then suddenly you have a bunch of sunflowers. If the Universe is much more flowing and connected like a stream (which makes sense),

What 'you', "lacewing", seem to KEEP FORGETTING IS that what 'makes sense to you' here, (which, to me, is BLATANTLY OBVIOUSLY True anyway), will NEVER 'make sense' to one while 'they', for example, are BELIEVING that some male gendered 'thing' created EVERY 'thing'.

rather than only being comprised of objects separated by distances as it appears to us (because of our own limited forms),

But it is NOT necessarily BECAUSE OF the limited form of the 'human being', AT ALL, that 'you' have such limited ideas like the above here.

ACTUALLY the REASON WHY 'you', people, in the days when this is being written, LOOK AT and SEE 'things' 'that way' is JUST BECAUSE OF the Wrong TEACHINGS ALL of 'you' have endured previously.

then our garden may be continually receiving expansions and influences. And these additions fit into our 'human puzzle' exactly because ALL is connected with common signs/traits, even what we haven't yet experienced.

It does not make sense that Earth is an isolated occupied rock in an immensely vast field of unoccupied disconnected rocks.

So, WHY even PRESUME "others' think 'that way'?

In other words 'you', "lacewing", OBVIOUSLY think 'that way', or used to, to now be PRESUMING 'others" here do.

It is our limited perception, tuned to a physical reality of a linear model, that prevents us from considering broader dimensions.

LOL And, it is ALSO 'your' OWN 'limited perception', tuned into 'your' OWN 'model' of THE WAY 'others' LOOK AT and SEE 'things' "lacewing', which IS PREVENTING 'you' FROM SEEING and UNDERSTANDING what the ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth IS here, AS WELL.

Can 'you' REALLY NOT YET SEE and UNDERSTAND that while 'you' ARE, in a way, 'DEMANDING' that "others" LOOK AT and SEE that there IS A 'broader perspective' 'you' ARE LIMITING 'your' OWN VIEW and PERSPECTIVE of 'things'?

[Age]

HIDDEN MATHEMATICS - Randall Carlson - Ancient Knowledge of Space, Time & Cosmic Cycles

Thanks for sharing that. I've been popping around in it... and I think it's interesting to see how the language of geometry and mathematics makes up the structure of which so much of our reality is based. Somewhere around 1:32:30 in the video, he really started speaking my language.

What just about ALL of 'you', posters, here do NOT YET REALIZE IS that 'you' are ALL 'speaking My language', as 'it' is SAID and WRITTEN, BUT 'you' are just NOT YET OPEN ENOUGH TO SEE and UNDERSTAND the True, Right, Accurate, and Correct language and KNOWLEDGE.

I also think it's interesting to explore and accurately interpret actual knowledge contained in the Bible, rather than using it simplistically as literal religious direction from an archaic time.

Well considering the IRREFUTABLE Fact that 'it' when LOOKED AT and READ Properly AND Correctly FITS IN PERFECTLY WITH what IS ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY True, then it would be A VERY GOOD IDEA TO EXPLORE MORE, and ASSUME and BELIEVE LESS.

I will explore more. And I will send you some links/info regarding ancient structure star alignment. Right now I'm headed out the door...

[Age]

13.8 billion-year-old Universe

I do not know what the real facts are but they have been, or are said to be, revising all the numbers. Some calculate a far older origin point (24 billion years).

LOL 'you', human beings, can KEEP REVISING 'the numbers' for as long as 'you' like, BUT 'this' will NEVER take away from the IRREFUTABLE Fact that the Universe IS ETERNAL, and infinite.

And some are now speaking that the origin point may be one among an infinite number. Basically that existence is eternal, without any beginning and without any end. There are also weird ideas about multi-verses that extend (if I understand) from the inside of black holes.

WHY do you SAY ideas about 'multi-verses' are 'weird'?

As it turns out, less is actually known as more is uncovered.

The REASON WHY LESS is KNOWN to 'you', people, IS JUST BECAUSE OF 'the way' 'you', people, look AT 'things'.

JUST CHANGE 'the way' 'you' LOOK AT 'things', then 'the way' 'you' SEE, and thus KNOW, 'things' WILL BE MUCH DIFFERENT, AS WELL.

About the infinite question: this has always seemed to me the most *logical*. Existence is what exists. It must always exist since non-existence is not possible.

But the fact that 'a chair', for example, does NOT exist, in the EXACT SAME WAY, which 'it' previously did, means that 'non-existence' exists, in one way, form, or another.

The only think I disagree with is that our particular manifest universe is said by some to have emerged from a point the size of an atom.

I have done my calculations and I cannot see how the origin point could have been smaller than a breadbox. I am in an extended argument with a guy who insists the origin point was the size of a house. Such ignorance!

If one was to calculate the size of what 'matter' would be without 'space', then one would KNOW WHAT EXACT size 'that point' WOULD BE. One, however, would first HAVE TO KNOW ALL 'the matter' that exist. And for one to CLAIM that they did ALREADY KNOW would be just VERY FOOLISH. However, that ALL 'matter' was infinitely compressed so that there was NO 'space', nor distance, between 'matter' is NOT inconceivable, and thus NOT logically IMPOSSIBLE, although 'it' may well be physically or empirically NOT POSSIBLE.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

We are made out of the stuff that's blown out of stars. Why isn't that enough for some people?

[Veritas Aequitas]

the Homo genus is evidenced by the appearance of H. habilis over 2 mya, while anatomically modern humans emerged in Africa approximately 300,000 years ago.

Is it far-fetched to think of Earth as a fertile garden that has been continually amended and tweaked, bringing it to the incredible diverse complexity that it has?

Just like the way that birds can unexpectedly drop seeds into your yard, and then suddenly you have a bunch of sunflowers. If the Universe is much more flowing and connected like a stream (which makes sense), rather than only being comprised of objects separated by distances as it appears to us (because of our own limited forms), then our garden may be continually receiving expansions and influences. And these additions fit into our 'human puzzle' exactly because ALL is connected with common signs/traits, even what we haven't yet experienced.

It does not make sense that Earth is an isolated occupied rock in an immensely vast field of unoccupied disconnected rocks.

It is our limited perception, tuned to a physical reality of a linear model, that prevents us from considering broader dimensions.

As I had mentioned, it is possible, so, not impossible.
However, possibility is always within a continuum from "not-likely" to "verified as real" depending on the credibility, reliability and objectivity of the specific human-based FSK of which the scientific-FSK is the most reliable thus the standard for all FSK.

The positive point is your speculation is based on elements and variables which are empirically possible thus cannot be rejected.
As such, it is a matter of getting the empirical evidences to be justified and verified then to be confirmed as real or not.
Based on our current state of knowledge this speculation is possible but we have to be agnostic [very] on it.

In contrast the speculation that God exists as a real being with omni-qualities, is empirically impossible.
Thus there is no possibility at all for God to exists as real. It is a non-starter as on the question of whether a real God exists or not.