Consul wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:32 pm
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"We can secure Equality in certain respects between members of certain classes for certain purposes and under certain conditions; but never, and necessarily never, Equality in all respects between all men for all purposes and under all conditions. The egalitarian is doomed to a life not only of grumbling and everlasting envy, but of endless and inevitable disappointment."
(Lucas, J. R. "Against Equality." Philosophy 40/154 (1965): 296–307. p. 306)
Now, there’s a good quotation. I agree with it.
Realistic socialists
A contradiction in terms. And that’s not my opinion: it’s Socialists themselves who insist that a non-utopian Socialism is not real Socialism at all. The default assumption of all their propaganda, too, is that if “inequality” exists, the sole reason for it has to be “oppression.” And why they think that, we’re going to see shortly: it has to do with their insistence that “equality” is the natural state of things — which is clearly not the case.
However, many of those occupying top positions in the political or economic system actually display a lack of competence,
Well, that’s certainly true of our politicians…but many of them are also Socialists. So bad politicians are a ubiquitous phenomenon, not restricted to one side.
There is such a thing as pseudomeritocracy in our societies that cannot justify inequality, particularly inequality of power!
Indeed there is. But you rightly call it “pseudo.” Real meritocracy has to be based on real merit. No part of the argument that phony versions are possible suggests meritocracy is not actually better than the alternative.
I agree with the socialists that…
"Every human society must justify its inequalities:
Wait. That’s dead wrong. In fact, it could not be more obviously wrong.
Which is the natural state of things: equality or inequality? The answer is obvious: inequality. So if there are inequalities, they are to be expected. What is extraordinary, and what needs a proper justifying, is any measure taken to produce equality when everything tends to inequality. Hierarchy is unavoidable, and often good. What line of justification can be raised that we ought to make the foolish look wise, the weak look strong, the lazy get the honour of the diligent, the dullard get the advantages of the inventive, the witless have the same advantages as the creative, and so on?
And when the measures the Socialists advocate to produce their mythical “equality” include robbery, bullying, the denigration of excellence, the forcing of compliance at gunpoint, the burning of private property, and so on, it is very clearly the Socialists and only the Socialists who need to be explaining what might justify the extraordinary measures they’re taking to induce an unnatural state of equalization.
Indeed, socioeconomic inequality has increased in all regions of the world since the 1980s.
A deceptive claim here.
Socioeconomic inequality happens whenever one region progresses in some way. And it’s true to say that the West has outstripped the rest of the world in economic growth since 1980. But two caveats must be noted: one is that much of the inequality was caused by the collapse of the failed Soviet regime and other Socialist zones. The other is that the so-called “Third World” was actually rising out of poverty during this period, gaining in average standard of living — and almost exclusively as a result of free-enterprise initiatives at the grass roots level. This nearly-miraculous level of improvement was hardly reported at all in the Developed World, but is truly one of the miracles of the last half century.
That’s the problem with emphasizing “inequality.” All “inequality” tells one is the gap between two figures. And that’s very deceptive. If Tom earned $15/hr in 1970, and $25/hr in 1980, and Ravinder earned the equivalent of $2 in 1970 and $10 in 1980, it’s true that the gap between Tom and Ravinder’s income increased; but it’s also true that both Tom and Ravinder are far better off in 1980 than either of them was in 1970. Moreover, the increasing in Ravinder’s income, if he is in the Developing World, is far more likely to produce significant improvements in his life conditions than the raise gained by Tom will produce in his society.
Therefore, why should we accuse Tom of being unfair to Ravinder? So far, they’re both winning. And Tom’s advances have absolutely no connection to Ravinder’s. Plausibly, they are both earning their advantages.
The upshot is that “inequality” is the wrong thing to focus on. It’s just a fancy name for “covetousness” or “jealousy” — but with the particularly nasty Socialist twist that suggests that resenting somebody else’s achievements somehow makes the envious person “virtuous” and “on the side of the oppressed.” Of course, it does no such thing.
Is a society equal enough if it guarantees all its citizens the same basic political and legal rights, or should it try to foster a much more general equality of condition?
Here’s where we need to be careful: this is a loaded question. It uses the benign term “foster” for the measures that Socialists ordinarily favour: forced equalization, confiscation of property, humiliation of achievers, the elimination of the discontent, and the surrender of large populations to the alleged “tender mercies” of the Socialist elite. “Fosters” fails to cover what’s being advocated, for sure.
No we should not “foster” any “more general equality of condition.” Why should we not? Because we should not reward indolence, stupidity, laziness, envy and greed. What we should do is ensure every person has sufficient opportunities to rise to the highest level they can achieve by proper diligence, creativity and effort on their part…but nothing beyond that. And the final result will inevitably still be “unequal,” because people have unequal gifts, diligence, willingness to face risk, and so on. Those that are willing to achieve should be allowed to do so, and to reap the rewards of their achievement.
Complete equality among persons being impossible, the real meaning of the idea is reduction or amelioration of inequality.
Again, why? If differences between people are the natural state of things, why should we suppose we are duty bound or morally obliged to force them to appear “equal”? And what measures are we thinking we would have to take to make all the achievements, choices, innovations, efforts and distinctions that create differences between people suddenly vaporize? There’s something terribly sinister about the desire to “equalize.” And that sinister nature has been exhibited by every Socialist regime throughout history.
… we should base social policy on the assumption that all persons are equally deserving of a good life, and that their society should try to make it possible for them to have it.
“All persons”? So a complete do-nothing should be the equal of a Bill Gates? And a Charles Manson should be given a guaranteed income at public expense? Or do you simply mean that in a compassionate society, we should not let people who have done no evil die in the streets? Because that last one seems fair enough, but does not require any Socialism.