Open Letter to Woke Students

[Immanuel Can]

James Lindsay recently published this open letter to students trained in the universities and colleges. It deals with what he foresees the Wokies can expect from the success of their "Social Justice" advocacy and their educational prospects going forward.

Not to be missed, if you're a university student.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQZ3QOIVW1w

[Gary Childress]

James Lindsay recently published this open letter to students trained in the universities and colleges. It deals with what he foresees the Wokies can expect from the success of their "Social Justice" advocacy and their educational prospects going forward.

Not to be missed, if you're a university student.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQZ3QOIVW1w

From the end of the video (right at approx 21:00): "Liberation is a destructive lie. We cannot liberate ourselves from the Truth or reality."

The world is a dungeon for those unfortunate to possess the wrong characteristics. It will always be a dungeon for those who possess the wrong characteristics. Whether one believes in "evolution" or in "creation", the fact of the matter is that the world is not as favorable to some as to others. You can believe that the world favors "God's chosen" or you can believe the world favors whatever happens to survive or thrive. I hold to the latter.

God and Satan have very little to distinguish one another. Satan sometimes uses flattery to persuade and God sometimes punishes to persuade. In the end, the world is what it is and the survivors will tell their offspring why it was that way. That's all any of them will ever know. All those who died in suffering, misery, and unhappiness will simply do so. Such is the world of gods and demons. It was my misfortune to be a part of this world. If it is the wish of the "Godly" to insist that I deserved my misery (due to whatever great crime they can come up with--be it only that I harbored resentment against the creator), that I could have chosen differently, then so be it. I salute you and your God of punishment with my middle finger.

[Immanuel Can]

The world is a dungeon for those unfortunate to possess the wrong characteristics. It will always be a dungeon for those who possess the wrong characteristics. Whether one believes in "evolution" or in "creation", the fact of the matter is that the world is not as favorable to some as to others.

Let's say that's true. Let's say you're just trapped, having the wrong characteristics.

What can you do about it?

[Gary Childress]

The world is a dungeon for those unfortunate to possess the wrong characteristics. It will always be a dungeon for those who possess the wrong characteristics. Whether one believes in "evolution" or in "creation", the fact of the matter is that the world is not as favorable to some as to others.

Let's say that's true. Let's say you're just trapped, having the wrong characteristics.

What can you do about it?

The same as anyone else, whatever I choose.

[Immanuel Can]

The world is a dungeon for those unfortunate to possess the wrong characteristics. It will always be a dungeon for those who possess the wrong characteristics. Whether one believes in "evolution" or in "creation", the fact of the matter is that the world is not as favorable to some as to others.

Let's say that's true. Let's say you're just trapped, having the wrong characteristics.

What can you do about it?

The same as anyone else, whatever I choose.

Vague.

What's your plan?

[Gary Childress]

Let's say that's true. Let's say you're just trapped, having the wrong characteristics.

What can you do about it?

The same as anyone else, whatever I choose.

Vague.

What's your plan?

Too bad. Live with it.

[Immanuel Can]

The same as anyone else, whatever I choose.

Vague.

What's your plan?

Too bad. Live with it.

Well, without a plan, that's exactly what you'll have to do. Just say, "Too bad; I've got to live with it."

[Gary Childress]

Vague.

What's your plan?

Too bad. Live with it.

Well, without a plan, that's exactly what you'll have to do. Just say, "Too bad; I've got to live with it."

My plan is to be as comfortable as possible until I die.

[Immanuel Can]

Too bad. Live with it.

Well, without a plan, that's exactly what you'll have to do. Just say, "Too bad; I've got to live with it."

My plan is to be as comfortable as possible until I die.

Then you have to live as you are. That's obvious. But the complaining about it no longer makes any sense, then; you had no other or better expectation, based on your own worldview, than you have gotten. Why complain, then? Complaints only make sense for somebody who's been somehow "ripped off," or "treated unjustly." But in your world, the one you declare you live in, there is no promise of better. So accept the reality and stop feeling sorry for yourself; there was never anything better coming.

That's grim, but that's the reality you're declaring for yourself.

[Gary Childress]

Well, without a plan, that's exactly what you'll have to do. Just say, "Too bad; I've got to live with it."

My plan is to be as comfortable as possible until I die.

you had no other or better expectation, based on your own worldview, than you have gotten. Why complain, then? Complaints only make sense for somebody who's been somehow "ripped off," or "treated unjustly." But in your world, the one you declare you live in, there is no promise of better. So accept the reality and stop feeling sorry for yourself; there was never anything better coming.

The only thing I ever wanted out of life was companionship with the right female. That never transpired. I've been lonely, drugged on medicine by human psychiatry, and alienated from other people. That hasn't made me happy. Go find some other dolt to play "therapist" with. Maybe you can win some good Samaritan points with God or something. You're wasting your time here and no longer welcome. Mind your own business.

[Immanuel Can]

My plan is to be as comfortable as possible until I die.

you had no other or better expectation, based on your own worldview, than you have gotten. Why complain, then? Complaints only make sense for somebody who's been somehow "ripped off," or "treated unjustly." But in your world, the one you declare you live in, there is no promise of better. So accept the reality and stop feeling sorry for yourself; there was never anything better coming.

The only thing I ever wanted out of life was companionship with the right female.

The universe you've told yourself you live in doesn't care what you want, Gary. You were not promised a "female" or "companionship," far less "happiness." You were not promised anything at all. So why are you complaining? You got exactly what you thought the universe was going to give you: nothing.

If nothing else, that seems fair...given what you believe about the universe.

You're wasting your time here and no longer welcome. Mind your own business.

Ummm...this is the thread I started, Gary. You were never obligated to it, in any way. You chose to come here and say what you've said. And I say you're welcome to say it...it's your own view that denies you any right to say it.

However, I also have to wonder what all this has to do with Lindsay's open letter. It all seems rather off topic, to tell the truth.

[Gary Childress]

you had no other or better expectation, based on your own worldview, than you have gotten. Why complain, then? Complaints only make sense for somebody who's been somehow "ripped off," or "treated unjustly." But in your world, the one you declare you live in, there is no promise of better. So accept the reality and stop feeling sorry for yourself; there was never anything better coming.

The only thing I ever wanted out of life was companionship with the right female.

The universe you've told yourself you live in doesn't care what you want, Gary. You were not promised a "female" or "companionship," far less "happiness." You were not promised anything at all. So why are you complaining? You got exactly what you thought the universe was going to give you: nothing.

If nothing else, that seems fair...given what you believe about the universe.

When I was very young I used to think that life had more potential. With age and experience, I have discovered that the pursuit of my happiness is futile. To add to it, I've had psychological episodes that I would qualify as extremely traumatic. Those are facts. I live in a world that is completely broken. If there's a God who created it, then God must be a cokehead or something. If you think find the world "divine" and appealing or whatever, then good for you. I'd say you must have won the evolutionary lottery. I didn't.

As my original reply to the video suggested, there are winners and losers in life that have virtually nothing to do with justice. Your man Lindsay simply wants a return to a social state where social deviants (or neuro-divergent or whatever us miscreants should be called) hide in the shadows while proper folk pat themselves on the back for using the proverbial appropriate dinner fork to eat salad. Most social deviants harm no one any more than anyone else does. George W. Bush who was a favorite in 2000 for many evangelicals over their arch-enemy Al Gore ended up immorally invading two countries and his Christian backers chided us all on with "support the troops". We were called "unAmerican" if we opposed the wars.

Conservatives are moral hypocrites. You judge people harshly for wearing the wrong gender clothing or having sex with someone you think is disgusting but you'll support an aggressive invasion if it's started by a "God-fearing" leader. Heaven forbid a leader should listen to the predominate scientific opinion of the time in regard to global climate change and decide to pursue policies to try to fix it. Now there's a heresy. Whatever God created this world is a disgrace. Or do you not think there is too much suffering in this world?

Do you think there is too much suffering in this world or do you not? Simple yes or no question. What is your verdict on this world?

[Gary Childress]

I'm diseased. I lose.

[Immanuel Can]

The only thing I ever wanted out of life was companionship with the right female.

The universe you've told yourself you live in doesn't care what you want, Gary. You were not promised a "female" or "companionship," far less "happiness." You were not promised anything at all. So why are you complaining? You got exactly what you thought the universe was going to give you: nothing.

If nothing else, that seems fair...given what you believe about the universe.

As my original reply to the video suggested, there are winners and losers in life that have virtually nothing to do with justice. Your man Lindsay simply wants a return to a social state where social deviants (or neuro-divergent or whatever us miscreants should be called) hide in the shadows while proper folk pat themselves on the back for using the proverbial appropriate dinner fork to eat salad.

Ah, you didn't even listen to Lindsay's short podcast...I can see that. Otherwise, you'd not be so darn far from anything he says.

Lindsay's talking to young people who are indoctrinated in "Woke." And all he does is tell them the truth about what's coming for them, whether they know it or not. It has nothing whatsoever to do with you, or your "neuro-divergence" as you call it.

You know, Gary, not everything is about you. There are things worth hearing that have to do with other people we all should care about. And this is about younger people. If you know some, this would be very useful to them. Not so much to you, because it doesn't really even have to do with you, and doesn't really address your situation.

Do you think there is too much suffering in this world or do you not? Simple yes or no question. What is your verdict on this world?

It's not the kind of question one can simply answer that way. If you think about it at all, you realize it supposes that Gary knows, or I'm supposed to know, what is "the right amount," so to speak, of suffering to be in this world. That's not a reasonable supposition.

So let me put it back to you, Gary: I think I already know your answer. You're going to say there's too much. Okay. Tell me what indicators you use to prove to yourself that the amount of suffering in this world isn't the right amount already.

[Gary Childress]

The universe you've told yourself you live in doesn't care what you want, Gary. You were not promised a "female" or "companionship," far less "happiness." You were not promised anything at all. So why are you complaining? You got exactly what you thought the universe was going to give you: nothing.

If nothing else, that seems fair...given what you believe about the universe.

As my original reply to the video suggested, there are winners and losers in life that have virtually nothing to do with justice. Your man Lindsay simply wants a return to a social state where social deviants (or neuro-divergent or whatever us miscreants should be called) hide in the shadows while proper folk pat themselves on the back for using the proverbial appropriate dinner fork to eat salad.

Ah, you didn't even listen to Lindsay's short podcast...I can see that. Otherwise, you'd not be so darn far from anything he says.

Lindsay's talking to young people who are indoctrinated in "Woke." And all he does is tell them the truth about what's coming for them, whether they know it or not. It has nothing whatsoever to do with you, or your "neuro-divergence" as you call it.

You know, Gary, not everything is about you. There are things worth hearing that have to do with other people we all should care about. And this is about younger people. If you know some, this would be very useful to them. Not so much to you, because it doesn't really even have to do with you, and doesn't really address your situation.

Do you think there is too much suffering in this world or do you not? Simple yes or no question. What is your verdict on this world?

It's not the kind of question one can simply answer that way. If you think about it at all, you realize it supposes that Gary knows, or I'm supposed to know, what is "the right amount," so to speak, of suffering to be in this world. That's not a reasonable supposition.

So let me put it back to you, Gary: I think I already know your answer. You're going to say there's too much. Okay. Tell me what indicators you use to prove to yourself that the amount of suffering in this world isn't the right amount already.

Is there such a thing as a "right amount of suffering"?

At the very least, it would be nice if there were clear solutions to address our problems. I don't see any clear solutions to climate change or the proliferation of weapons with an ever-increasing capacity to wreak greater and greater destruction. Would be nice if we could come up with fusion-powered nuclear reactors to produce enormous amounts of safe energy. Unfortunately, no one seems to be able to figure out how to do that. Mostly we know how to use it to make bigger and bigger atomic explosions. The Internet has turned into a crime net.

If there's a God in this world, he/she/it hasn't made it very easy to solve chronic problems like diseases, natural disasters, or societal ills. They appear to be fundamental problems that cannot be adequately resolved. For example, as soon as penicillin was invented, microbes began to adjust to it. Instead of medical progress, all we have is a frenzy just to keep up with the microbes that actively seek to destroy us. I guess God must have thought, "hey, I wonder who will win if I create humans and microbes forever at war with each other"?

There was a book by Thomas More, called "Utopia". The word "utopia" has basically become a synonym for "unrealistic hopes". "Dystopia" is more realistic and much easier to imagine. It's easier to decline than it is to flourish and we humans don't have infinite energy and resources to keep up the battle non-stop forever.

Good is fleeting. Evil is the gravitational direction.

Creation is unique and requires some rest after the effort but destruction and decay require no rest.