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promethean75 wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:26 pm Please don't post pictures of hairy chested women in this... wait is that a guy? How can he be doing that? I thought that... but he doesn't have... I mean there's no... how the heck is that even possible?
Ingesting a huge amount of drugs and hormones can create a kind of 'man pus'. Really 'good' for the baby, but pleasuring men is all that counts apparently.
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commonsense wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:31 pm
promethean75 wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:26 pm Please don't post pictures of hairy chested women in this... wait is that a guy? How can he be doing that? I thought that... but he doesn't have... I mean there's no... how the heck is that even possible?
CGI?
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commonsense wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:19 pm
iambiguous wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:04 pm
Those who rail against wokism need not have been specifically victimized by wokism so long as they believe that wokism victimizes others.
More "woke" hypocrisy?
iamby, why do you say hypocrisy?
Well, I posed it as a question. Some will see those defending such things as a transgender identity as woke while not including their own rejection of it as woke from the other end of the political spectrum.

For me it comes down to either 1] I'm right from my side and you're wrong from your side, or 2] I'm right from my side and your right from your side.

And then politically/legally at least making the attempt to negotiate some sort of compromise whereby both sides gets something, but no one side gets everything.

Think, for example, of this current controversy:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/30/us/georg ... istrict%20

Is the teacher "woke" for reading the book more or less than Cobb County School District is "woke" for firing her?

Of course here things get trickier because it involves young children. This part:

"In the charge letter, CCSD claimed Rinderle violated at least six district policies and administrative rules, which include two polices based on Georgia laws passed last year – one that restricts instruction of “divisive concepts” and another that provides greater transparency to parents and legal guardians regarding what their children are being taught.
Rinderle said the school district has not told her what “divisive” means.


Divisive from the left or from the right?
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:30 pm
Constantine wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:23 pm That child needs rescued by child services and given real food.
Tell that to the wonkers on here. See how they defend it. I'm guessing they won't touch it with a barge pole.
Just for the record...

https://llli.org/breastfeeding-info/tra ... d%20babies.
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iambiguous wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:38 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:30 pm
Constantine wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:23 pm That child needs rescued by child services and given real food.
Tell that to the wonkers on here. See how they defend it. I'm guessing they won't touch it with a barge pole.
Just for the record...

https://llli.org/breastfeeding-info/tra ... d%20babies.
Your point? That LL is woke? That LL is fanatical? That LL has never been a supporter of women?
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:46 am
iambiguous wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:38 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:30 pm

Tell that to the wonkers on here. See how they defend it. I'm guessing they won't touch it with a barge pole.
Just for the record...

https://llli.org/breastfeeding-info/tra ... d%20babies.
Your point? ThatLL is woke? That LL is fanatical? That LL has never been pro-women?
Come on, what difference does it really make what anyone's point is here, unless it is entirely in sync with yours?

Again, with you what is far more fascinating [to me] is the scathing manner in which [at times] you go after those who do refuse to toe your line regarding things like gender roles.

What's behind that?
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iambiguous wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:59 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:46 am
iambiguous wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:38 am

Just for the record...

https://llli.org/breastfeeding-info/tra ... d%20babies.
Your point? ThatLL is woke? That LL is fanatical? That LL has never been pro-women?
Come on, what difference does it really make what anyone's point is here, unless it is entirely in sync with yours?

Again, with you what is far more fascinating [to me] is the scathing manner in which [at times] you go after those who do refuse to toe your line regarding things like gender roles.

What's behind that?
Being an actual human? I've been asked this a lot by wonkers. They look at me in a bewildered way and wonder why I care. This is because they don't actually have any feelings or opinions one way or another. It's all show with them. Emojis and huggies and being part of 'mob think'. They really can't comprehend it when others place importance on facts, truth, fairness and all those other pesky nuisances that wonkers aren't interested in.
Weirdly, I care about child abuse. I care about fairness. I care about safety. I care about facts, science, biology..... I'm sorry this is all so bewildering to you.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 1:03 am
iambiguous wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:59 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:46 am

Your point? ThatLL is woke? That LL is fanatical? That LL has never been pro-women?
Come on, what difference does it really make what anyone's point is here, unless it is entirely in sync with yours?

Again, with you what is far more fascinating [to me] is the scathing manner in which [at times] you go after those who do refuse to toe your line regarding things like gender roles.

What's behind that?
Being an actual human? I've been asked this a lot by wonkers. They look at me in a bewildered way and wonder why I care. This is because they don't actually have any feelings or opinions one way or another. It's all show with them. Emojis and huggies and being part of 'mob think'. They really can't comprehend it when others place importance on facts, truth, fairness and all those other pesky nuisances that wonkers aren't interested in.
Weirdly, I care about child abuse. I care about fairness. I care about safety. I care about facts, science, biology..... I'm sorry this is all so bewildering to you.
Of course, those on the other end of the political spectrum -- wonks or not -- will make the same sort of assumptions about you. Their facts, their truths, their assessment of fairness.

And then the extent to which both sides are willing to at least listen to the arguments of those who disagree with them. And maybe give and take when it comes down to actual behavioral proscriptions.

I suspect the teacher in Georgia did not view introducing children to a broader range of lifestyles as child abuse at all. Especially in a world where some who dare to off the beaten path are ridiculed and threatened and even physically attacked.

It always depends on the extent to which the children are being told that these lifestyles reflect behaviors that they themselves ought to choose as well. When the lesson becomes more explicitly political.

Here is the teacher's side of the story: https://youtu.be/NtSc6vXr9A0
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iambiguous wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 1:40 am

Their facts, their truths,
Facts and truth aren't subjective. '''Their' truth.'' For fuck sake. Could you be any more wonky?

''My Shadow is Purple by Scott Stuart is a lovely book for young children about being true to themselves and moving past the gender binary.'' Oh just fuck off.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 2:56 am
iambiguous wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 1:40 am

Their facts, their truths,
Facts and truth aren't subjective. '''Their' truth.'' For fuck sake. Could you be any more wonky?

''My Shadow is Purple by Scott Stuart is a lovely book for young children about being true to themselves and moving past the gender binary.'' Oh just fuck off.
Now, there's the vegetariantaxidermy we know so well!

And of course only her facts and her truth count here.

And maybe someday she'll finally open up and spill the beans regarding why she comes here by and large to heap scorn on all those assholes -- men! -- who dare to suggest arguments contrary to her own disdainful and derogatory dogmas.

Note to Satyr:

Is she one of yours? :wink:
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iambiguous wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 4:13 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 2:56 am
iambiguous wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 1:40 am

Their facts, their truths,
Facts and truth aren't subjective. '''Their' truth.'' For fuck sake. Could you be any more wonky?

''My Shadow is Purple by Scott Stuart is a lovely book for young children about being true to themselves and moving past the gender binary.'' Oh just fuck off.
Now, there's the vegetariantaxidermy we know so well!

And of course only her facts and her truth count here.

And maybe someday she'll finally open up and spill the beans regarding why she comes here by and large to heap scorn on all those assholes -- men! -- who dare to suggest arguments contrary to her own disdainful and derogatory dogmas.

Note to Satyr:

Is she one of yours? :wink:
Where are your 'facts' you moron? What 'facts' are you after? What 'facts' are you disputing? You posted a link to a video of some moronic yank schoolteacher. Ooh. Well done! What exactly are you 'arguing' about? All rhetorical. I have no interest in what you have to 'say'. I've never seen you write anything on here that remotely hints at intelligence.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 4:47 am
iambiguous wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 4:13 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 2:56 am

Facts and truth aren't subjective. '''Their' truth.'' For fuck sake. Could you be any more wonky?

''My Shadow is Purple by Scott Stuart is a lovely book for young children about being true to themselves and moving past the gender binary.'' Oh just fuck off.
Now, there's the vegetariantaxidermy we know so well!

And of course only her facts and her truth count here.

And maybe someday she'll finally open up and spill the beans regarding why she comes here by and large to heap scorn on all those assholes -- men! -- who dare to suggest arguments contrary to her own disdainful and derogatory dogmas.

Note to Satyr:

Is she one of yours? :wink:
Where are your 'facts' you moron? What 'facts' are you after? What 'facts' are you disputing? You posted a link to a video of some moronic yank schoolteacher. Ooh. Well done! What exactly are you 'arguing' about? All rhetorical. I have no interest in what you have to 'say'. I've never seen you write anything on here that remotely hints at intelligence.
You remind me of these two characters: https://youtu.be/Ps3W_WXy9wU

Which one?

Too close to call.

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Still haven't seen an argument. This site is pathetic.
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American (what else?) 'gender studies' university professor gave a student zero because she used the term 'biological woman' in an essay. Apparently it's a term that is 'informed (eh what??) by white supremacy, cisheteronormativity (no, I didn't make that up), classism and patriarchy' and is 'exclusive' and offensive to men. Oh dear. Can't be 'offending' men by calling women women.
Apparently universities are now run by people who a few decades ago would have been locked up safely in lunatic asylums. This is the result of letting them roam free...
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