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Re: Self-Identity

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Wizard22 wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:21 am A question is not an explanation...
Was absolutely ANY one here ASSUMING or BELIEVING otherwise?
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He asked you for your explanation.

Why not quote it or repeat it?
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Wizard22 wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:07 am He asked you for your explanation.

Why not quote it or repeat it?
Are you REALLY that MORONIC?

"bahman" asked me specifically, 'WHERE is your explanation?'

To which I INFORMED.

So,

1. I was NEVER asked for my explanation. As can be CLEARLY SEEN and PROVEN.

2. I ANSWERED the ACTUAL QUESTION posed, and ASKED TO me.

3. Quoting or repeating my EXPLANATION would NOT be ANSWERING the ACTUAL QUESTION posed, and ASKED.

4. you made a Truly ABSURD and IDIOTIC post here regarding some ASSUMPTION or BELIEF of YOURS where you SAID and WROTE:
A question is not an explanation... As though 'this' was in relation TO some 'thing' here.

5. I then posed and ASKED you a QUESTION regarding this CLAIM of YOURS. To which we are STILL WAITING FOR AN ANSWER FROM you.

6. you WROTE, 'A question is not an explanation', as though someone had done some 'thing' like 'this' here, which OBVIOUSLY absolutely NO one had. Thus bringing us back to your ACTUALLY 'literacy' skills here "wizard22", or ACTUAL LACK OF. Which is quite surprising considering YOUR BELIEF here, and that thread you STARTED ABOUT 'literacy'.
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Re: Self-Identity

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An awareness of being different is forming. This sense of being different or separate, which is actually illusory as "dontaskme" would say, then forms a 'sense of self'. Which again is false, wrong, and incorrect, but which actually exists though just in illusion.
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It is truly fascinating how humans are made to believe their budding consciousness of existence is an illusion. How could that be, unless, by some means, they are tricked and deceived to believe their innate connection with life, nature, and existence, is opposite of what it is? That their unique experience (Consciousness) is not made to serve all the functions of life, but to exist in spite of it, at odds, as-if being controlled by a foreign entity? Surely an infant feels powerless to the mother that gave birth to him/her...but consciousness prevails in the formative years before it can be indoctrinated to such an intentional (or unintentional) deception.
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Re: Self-Identity

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Age wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:15 am
bahman wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:08 am
Age wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 1:02 am

But I have ALREADY PARTLY EXPLAINED HOW.

If you have ANY DISAGREEMENT with what I SAID, then I suggest you just SHOW, and PROVE, OTHERWISE, or just CHALLENGE and/or QUESTION me ON what I have ALREADY PROVIDED, INSTEAD of just making a Truly UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIM like you are here now.
Where is your explanation?
My first post in this thread directly under the question:

How do people, as young children, begin to develop their "Sense of Self"?
This: "An awareness of being 'different' is forming. This sense of 'being different', or 'separate', which IS ACTUALLY 'ILLUSORY', as "dontaskme" would say, then forms a 'sense of self', which AGAIN is False, Wrong, AND Incorrect, but which ACTUALLY exists, though just in ILLUSION. " is not an explanation.
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Re: Self-Identity

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bahman wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:36 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:15 am
bahman wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:08 am
Where is your explanation?
My first post in this thread directly under the question:

How do people, as young children, begin to develop their "Sense of Self"?
This: "An awareness of being 'different' is forming. This sense of 'being different', or 'separate', which IS ACTUALLY 'ILLUSORY', as "dontaskme" would say, then forms a 'sense of self', which AGAIN is False, Wrong, AND Incorrect, but which ACTUALLY exists, though just in ILLUSION. " is not an explanation.
What else to you want or need to be explained to you in relation to,

How do people, as young children, BEGIN to develop their "Sense of Self"?
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Re: Self-Identity

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Wizard22 wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:18 am It is truly fascinating how humans are made to believe their budding consciousness of existence is an illusion. How could that be, unless, by some means, they are tricked and deceived to believe their innate connection with life, nature, and existence, is opposite of what it is? That their unique experience (Consciousness) is not made to serve all the functions of life, but to exist in spite of it, at odds, as-if being controlled by a foreign entity? Surely an infant feels powerless to the mother that gave birth to him/her...but consciousness prevails in the formative years before it can be indoctrinated to such an intentional (or unintentional) deception.
'you', human beings, are continually being DECIEVED and FOOLED, a lot of the time. This DECEPTION and thus FOOLISHNESS is done, and achieved, by the very OWN False and Wrong ASSUMPTIONS and BELIEFS within a human body. To take but just three examples of DECEPTION and BEING FOOLED, 'the earth is flat', 'the sun revolves around the earth', 'the Universe is expanding and thus must of began'.

That there is a 'self', which is apart from, above, beyond, or separate from the ONLY One is but just another one of the truly unimaginable number of 'things' 'you', human beings, have FOOLED "yourselves" into ASSUMING or BELIEVING was true.

Now, this False 'sense of self' BEGINS to develop in young children when children are TRICKED, or FOOLED, into BELIEVING that 'they' are 'different'. This MISINFORMATION is 'taught' and is EXPECTED to be BELIEVED true, by unsuspecting adult human beings who BELIEVE that 'it' IS true. They just BELIEVE that this true only because they where also 'taught' to BELIEVE, in childhood, that 'they' are "their OWN, separated, self' as well. Thus the DECIEVING and FOOLING continues..
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Re: Self-Identity

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Age wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:16 pm'you', human beings, are continually being DECIEVED and FOOLED, a lot of the time.
No we're not. Humans live in reality, not illusions. You're wrong like usual, Age.
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Re: Self-Identity

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bahman wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:36 pmis not an explanation.
I wish he'd accept your point, bahman...
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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:58 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:16 pm'you', human beings, are continually being DECIEVED and FOOLED, a lot of the time.
No we're not. Humans live in reality, not illusions. You're wrong like usual, Age.
LOL
LOL
LOL

Here we have 'this one' who does NOT just BELIEVE that 'it' IS SUPERIOR to "others" but that 'it' has NEVER been FOOLED NOR DECEIVED. Which is a PRIME example of just HOW MUCH some of these human beings REALLY WERE TOTALLY DECEIVING and FOOLING "themselves".
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Re: Self-Identity

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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:59 am
bahman wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:36 pmis not an explanation.
I wish he'd accept your point, bahman...
I WISH 'you', people, would EXPLAIN, EXACTLY, WHY 'my explanation' is SUPPOSEDLY NOT 'an explanation'. But, considering 'you' can NOT or will NOT, then this just leads FURTHER to CONCLUSION that 'it' IS ACTUALLY 'an explanation', and one, by the way, that may well NOT be able to COUNTERED NOR REFUTED.

BUT if 'it' can, then we WAIT, to SEE.
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Re: Self-Identity

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Age wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:31 amLOL
LOL
LOL

Here we have 'this one' who does NOT just BELIEVE that 'it' IS SUPERIOR to "others" but that 'it' has NEVER been FOOLED NOR DECEIVED. Which is a PRIME example of just HOW MUCH some of these human beings REALLY WERE TOTALLY DECEIVING and FOOLING "themselves".
Just because you get fooled by illusions all the time, doesn't mean your cognitive deficiencies are shared by others.
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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:01 am
Age wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:31 amLOL
LOL
LOL

Here we have 'this one' who does NOT just BELIEVE that 'it' IS SUPERIOR to "others" but that 'it' has NEVER been FOOLED NOR DECEIVED. Which is a PRIME example of just HOW MUCH some of these human beings REALLY WERE TOTALLY DECEIVING and FOOLING "themselves".
Just because you get fooled by illusions all the time, doesn't mean your cognitive deficiencies are shared by others.
'This' here IS VERY TRUE.

AND, so is the Fact that 'you', 'wizard22", BELIEVE, absolutely AND wholeheartedly, that 'you', and "your" 'race', are NOT being DECEIVED and FOOLED, a lot of the time. While 'you' ALSO ACTUALLY STATED, 'Humans live in reality, NOT illusions'.

What 'this one' SPEAKS and CLEARLY SAYS here is ABSOLUTE PROOF of just how 'BIG' and 'RIGHT' 'the human ego' WITHIN those bodies, back then, BELIEVED 'it' WAS.

I even POINTED OUT and CLEARLY SHOWED SOME of the Truly DISTORTED BELIEFS and ASSUMPTIONS, which were OBVIOUSLY ILLUSIONS, which human beings HAD, BUT 'this one' STILL 'tries to' CLAIM that, 'Humans live in reality, and NOT in ILLUSIONS'.

The ONLY one 'this one' here is FOOLING and DECEIVING IS 'itself', and maybe some "others".
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Re: Self-Identity

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Some fools get conned by conmen.
Most fools get conned by politicians & propaganda.
Just because you are one of the dupes, again, doesn't mean everybody else gets fooled.

It's just you, Age.
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