Beyond Postmodernity

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Re: Beyond Postmodernity

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mickthinks wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:14 pmWizzy, the topic of the Covid-19 pandemic, the politics, the science, the misunderstandings; it's vast. There is a lot to talk about, for sure. Right now you want to talk about death rates and whether I know them. But earlier you wanted to talk about "them" overstating the risk to young children and misleading everyone. Everyone knows why you're trying to bait and switch like this.

It's because you are dishonest.

Mick: You are the only one here who thinks this is news
Wizzy: Sculptor already admitted otherwise.

Yeah, we dealt with that days ago. Sculptor posted a denial of something from which you have invalidly inferred an admission of something else. This might have been an innocent mistake last Sunday but now its repetition is a deliberate falsehood.

Your dishonesty is on display for all to see.
So far your participation and rebuke in this thread has been to critique a very minor point, "nobody believed children were in danger", as-if you represent even a 51% majority of what this forum believes. I doubt that very much. You represent yourself, and only yourself, here. And speaking on behalf of Western Civilization, it's obvious that an enormous amount of propaganda was aimed at everybody as a whole, including children, including teenagers, including young adults...although as I said, and you do not disagree with, they posed essentially no mortal risk from the release and spread of SARS-CoV-2. No different than a regular fever/flu season.

Thus we must return to the OP.

You are severely effected by the thing I mentioned, Postmodern-Globalist Propaganda systems. This is not a surprise though, especially concerning the overall intent of the vaccine rollouts, which was to inject the entire human population on the planet...with who-knows-what mystery juice?! And who does know? Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, their vaccine R&D, Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, Peter Dazsak and EcoHealth Alliance. Who does know? The Wuhan Laboratory in Wuhan, China.

Meanwhile, here you are, asking no relative nor significant questions. You, obedient sheep, unquestioningly, and unknowingly, inject into your blood...whatever you are instructed. Like most here, and most of the planet.

How is that virtuous? How is that wise? At the very least, you should read to me the ingredient list...but you can't even manage that.

Can you?
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Re: Beyond Postmodernity

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So far your participation and rebuke in this thread has been to critique a very minor point.

This is a discussion forum. The members here can usefully be divided into two kinds: those who come here to debate in good faith, and those who come here to fuck around. It is a matter of the utmost importance to me and many others which of those groups you are in.

If you are interested in sharing genuine ideas, you can demonstrate that by freely and readily rejecting ideas that cannot be sustained, even when they are ideas that you introduced into the discussion.

Can you do that?
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Re: Beyond Postmodernity

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mickthinks wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:27 amSo far your participation and rebuke in this thread has been to critique a very minor point.

This is a discussion forum. The members here can usefully be divided into two kinds: those who come here to debate in good faith, and those who come here to fuck around. It is a matter of the utmost importance to me and many others which of those groups you are in.

If you are interested in sharing genuine ideas, you can demonstrate that by freely and readily rejecting ideas that cannot be sustained, even when they are ideas that you introduced into the discussion.

Can you do that?
What's your point? Your main contention was that you represented the entirety of this forum on the belief of 'non-existent danger of kids of covid-19/vaccines'.

This point is smaller within the larger context, which was the manner by which the masses are propagated and why. You focused in on the minor point, and steered the conversation off-track from the main point. Why? To one-up me? That is more intellectually dishonest than any retort I made against your contention.

So why did you side-step the main argument?
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Re: Beyond Postmodernity

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Wizard22 wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:33 am
mickthinks wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:27 am It is a matter of the utmost importance to me and many others which of those groups you are in.
What's your point?
Dude, were you born this obtuse or were you sent to Obtuse School?

My point is that you have shown yourself to be dishonest. You debate in bad faith. There is no point in discussing your ideas with you because you misrepresent everything including your own opinions. Your only purpose is to fuck with us. And that isn't a minor problem in a discussion group like the Philosophy Now Forum. It's of paramount importance.

So, let me put it to you again:

If you are interested in sharing genuine ideas, you can demonstrate that by freely and readily rejecting ideas that cannot be sustained, even when they are ideas that you introduced into the discussion. Can you do that?
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mickthinks wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:23 amDude, were you born this obtuse or were you sent to Obtuse School?

My point is that you have shown yourself to be dishonest. You debate in bad faith. There is no point in discussing your ideas with you because you misrepresent everything including your own opinions. Your only purpose is to fuck with us. And that isn't a minor problem in a discussion group like the Philosophy Now Forum. It's of paramount importance.

So, let me put it to you again:

If you are interested in sharing genuine ideas, you can demonstrate that by freely and readily rejecting ideas that cannot be sustained, even when they are ideas that you introduced into the discussion. Can you do that?
The fact that you repeatedly base your arguments on "us" even though you speak for you and you only...is all I need to know about you and your position of 'honesty'.

You've repeatedly pulled this topic off-rail.

You've repeatedly failed to make a counter-argument.

You've repeatedly failed to make solid, rational points.


Look, you can admit that you were easily swayed and misled by Global propaganda among the Covid-19 plandemic. Is there great shame in it? You and most of the population were led around by your noses, force-fed false information, in some places of the world, at gunpoint. You are a stooge. You are one among billions. That's on you.

This thread is for philosophical types—doubters, rational, rebellious, do not accept mainstream propaganda at face-value, does their own research, forms their own conclusions, understands common sense, highly reasonable... so step back. It's not for you, and that's fine.
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Re: Beyond Postmodernity

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Honesty is never off-topic in Philosophy. This thread, like every thread at PhiNow, is for honest debate in good faith. If you are interested in sharing genuine ideas, you can demonstrate that by freely and readily rejecting ideas that cannot be sustained, even when they are ideas that you introduced into the discussion.

Can you do that?

It seems you can't.
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Re: Beyond Postmodernity

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mickthinks wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 10:06 am Honesty is never off-topic in Philosophy. This thread, like every thread at PhiNow, is for honest debate in good faith. If you are interested in sharing genuine ideas, you can demonstrate that by freely and readily rejecting ideas that cannot be sustained, even when they are ideas that you introduced into the discussion.

Can you do that?

It seems you can't.
I represent everybody else on this forum. We think you are wrong. You don't matter to Us.

See how easy it is to act and think like you, Micky??? It's not difficult to emulate you at all.
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Re: Beyond Postmodernity

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Wizard22 wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 11:48 am
mickthinks wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 10:06 am Honesty is never off-topic in Philosophy. This thread, like every thread at PhiNow, is for honest debate in good faith. If you are interested in sharing genuine ideas, you can demonstrate that by freely and readily rejecting ideas that cannot be sustained, even when they are ideas that you introduced into the discussion.

Can you do that?


It seems you can't.
I represent everybody else on this forum. We think you are wrong. You don't matter to Us.

See how easy it is to act and think like you, Micky??? It's not difficult to emulate you at all.
You find me one other member here who thinks that your dishonesty is not a problem and I'll find one of your sock puppets.
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mickthinks wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 1:16 pmYou find me one other member here who thinks that your dishonesty is not a problem and I'll find one of your sock puppets.
Why are you so concerned with what other people think?

Are you that desperate to seek-out validation by popular consent, that you need to look to what the majority believe, before you believe it?

You are like the exact-opposite of a critical, free-minded thinker. You are Dependent, upon Consensus, to form your beliefs and thoughts.



That is why you were so triggered by the OP and this thread.

This is why it is your favored vector of attack, presuming that I do not speak on behalf of others whereas you do not.

In your mind, only beliefs voted upon by 51% majority, are True, represent Truth.

Truth upon Consensus.
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Re: Beyond Postmodernity

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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 8:08 am

Are you that desperate to seek-out validation by popular consent, that you need to look to what the majority believe, before you believe it?
I don't think he's saying he has to look to the majority in order to know what to believe, but, rather, he just has to look to you in order to know what not to believe. 🙂
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Harbal wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 8:29 amI don't think he's saying he has to look to the majority in order to know what to believe, but, rather, he just has to look to you in order to know what not to believe. 🙂
Hairball is a noble, intelligent, humorous person.

Now let it be shown Micky knows not to believe what I just said, and he shouldn't.

Keep working those double-digit IQ points, Hairball... :|
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Re: Beyond Postmodernity

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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 8:33 am
Harbal wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 8:29 amI don't think he's saying he has to look to the majority in order to know what to believe, but, rather, he just has to look to you in order to know what not to believe. 🙂
Hairball is a noble, intelligent, humorous person.

Now let it be shown Micky knows not to believe what I just said, and he shouldn't.

Keep working those double-digit IQ points, Hairball... :|
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Re: Beyond Postmodernity

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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 8:08 am
mickthinks wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 1:16 pmYou find me one other member here who thinks that your dishonesty is not a problem and I'll find one of your sock puppets.
Why are you so concerned with what other people think?
No, that's you. This thread of yours is devoted to expounding your beliefs about what the mass of humanity thinks and whether they are misguided and who is to blame. I am not so concerned here about what others think in general. I am concerned to establish three things in this thread.
  • That your claims about what other people think are often wrong
  • That the blame you assign is wrongly assigned
  • That your refusal to admit any of these errors when they are pointed out to you is a demonstration of your bad faith, aka dishonesty
I believe I have succeeded. I think your continuing attempts to change the subject are further proof.
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