What's the Difference if any between Man and Woman?

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Re: What's the Difference if any between Man and Woman?

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Trajk Logik wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:21 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:07 pm
Trajk Logik wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:28 pm
You don't see how the infringement on free speech is the basis for the problem you are talking about? In canceling your right to use whatever pronoun you wish, they are effectively canceling your ability to question anyone's claim they are a woman or a man. If you want to solve the problem of predatory men in women's bathrooms you have to solve the problem of pronouns first.
I've made the same point repeatedly i.e. the assault on our ability to effectively use language. With it being written into law that these men are LITERALLY women then that takes away the ability of women to fight it. It's creating a convoluted mess in every part of society-- with women being the losers in every one of them.
Right. So which came first - the gay man who claims to be a woman and the left who calls you a bigot if you question their claim, or the straight man who uses this situation to their advantage to claim they are women just to be able to get into the women's bathroom? Seems like the latter can only happen if the prior situation happens first.

So no, it's not necessarily about hating gays, even though the video you posted in the other thread seems to indicate that you think most of them have "nothing in their brain". So I don't see how the video your are promoting is any different than you're labeling of Wiz as an idiot, moron, or stupid. Based on your own use of words, you hate Wiz as much as you hate gays.
What makes you think those men in the video are 'gay'? Where have I ever indicated that I 'hate gays'? Shove your gaslighting bullshit up your arse. I don't even know what you are disagreeing with. Men can call themselves whatever they want. The difference now is that everyone is being forced to pander to it or else suffer legal consequences. There was only a problem created when men started being protected by law for encroaching on women's rights. This has opened a whole Pandora's box of difficulties for women. You obviously have trouble with reading comprehension so there's no point in discussing this further. There's nothing to 'argue' about. The whole 'transrights' movement is deeply misogynistic and I think that comes across very well in that video. The natural misogyny that has always been around and latent in many, if not most, men is now lauded and called 'heroic'. This is a women's rights issue and really none of your business anyway. If women aren't going to stand up to it then there's nothing I can do about that. There are many who are fighting it, and it's growing, but the opposition is enormous and powerful with seemingly endless funds.
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Re: What's the Difference if any between Man and Woman?

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Trajk Logik wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:27 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:21 pm
Wizard22 wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 11:56 am
First you need to prove you're smarter than me. So far...it's obvious you have a very long way go toward that end.
Here is FURTHER PROOF that this one ACTUALLY BELIEVES that 'it' is SUPERIOR to "others".

Oh, and by the way, ASKING you the QUESTION, 'Could 'you' be PRESUMING Wrong 'things' here "wizard22", or is this NOT even a POSSIBILITY, to 'you'?' does NOT, and I will repeat, does NOT, need me to prove that 'I' am smarter than 'you', OBVIOUSLY.

And, if you can NOT even ANSWER this QUESTION, OPENLY and Honestly, then FURTHER INDICATES just how CLOSED, and Dishonest, you REALLY ARE here. As for how 'smart' or NOT you REALLY ARE, the respondents in YOUR threads are REVEALING the general consensus here.
"Consensus" is a woke term used to make others that don't share the others view as an ignorant to the facts.
BUT 'a consensus', even of the 'majority', can STILL BE False, Wrong, and/or Incorrect. So, WHY would ANY one USE a word or term in A WAY that does NOT FIT its OWN definition?

To me, the 'consensus' word just means, or refers to, a general agreement, ONLY.

What does the 'consensus' word mean, or refer to, to you, EXACTLY? And while we are here what does the 'woke' word even mean, or refer to, to you, EXACTLY?
Trajk Logik wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:27 pm There was once a consensus that the Earth was flat and the center of the universe.
This is OBVIOUSLY just a repeated STORY to RELAY or CONVEY a very specific MESSAGE, which I have been REPEATEDLY SAYING and TELLING here AS WELL.
Trajk Logik wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:27 pm Consensus isn't proof of anything.
I AGREE, in part.

There is, however, ANOTHER ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth here, which WILL BE TOLD, one day.
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Age wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:21 pmHere is FURTHER PROOF that this one ACTUALLY BELIEVES that 'it' is SUPERIOR to "others".

Oh, and by the way, ASKING you the QUESTION, 'Could 'you' be PRESUMING Wrong 'things' here "wizard22", or is this NOT even a POSSIBILITY, to 'you'?' does NOT, and I will repeat, does NOT, need me to prove that 'I' am smarter than 'you', OBVIOUSLY.

And, if you can NOT even ANSWER this QUESTION, OPENLY and Honestly, then FURTHER INDICATES just how CLOSED, and Dishonest, you REALLY ARE here. As for how 'smart' or NOT you REALLY ARE, the respondents in YOUR threads are REVEALING the general consensus here.
Is 200 IQ superior to 100 IQ, Age?

Is 7' superior to 6'?

Is strength superior to weakness?

Is Good superior to Evil?
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:46 pmThe whole 'transrights' movement is deeply misogynistic
Men are pretending to be women...because they hate women...wait, whaaaaat?

Care to revise another one of your inanities, Vege?
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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:07 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:46 pmThe whole 'transrights' movement is deeply misogynistic
Men are pretending to be women...because they hate women...wait, whaaaaat?

Care to revise another one of your inanities, Vege?
Perhaps they're jealous of women. Jealousy breeds hatred.
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Maia wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:25 amPerhaps they're jealous of women. Jealousy breeds hatred.
I don't think people imitate those they hate, unless it's mockery.

Maybe some "Transmen" do so. But I don't think the majority of them do. I think the majority of them, because they were spawned from single-mothers, adulate and copy femininity and feminine behavior. Thus they "feel like" females, and this corrupts their sexual identity along with the exterior Marxist pressures pervasive in the West, encouraging them to do so, on top of their intuitive sense.
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In addition to that point, there have always been 'feminine' men throughout every point in time, every society, every civilization. But traditional morality imposes Shame against this bloc of men, to hide and feel embarrassed about their 'lesser' masculine disposition. Only when traditional morality is destroyed, removed completely, do these destructive sexual forces go on a rampage. Thus there is a logic to the sexual suppression of feminine-men by moral institutions.

In general, it is simply unhealthy for the larger society.
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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:35 am
Maia wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:25 amPerhaps they're jealous of women. Jealousy breeds hatred.
I don't think people imitate those they hate, unless it's mockery.

Maybe some "Transmen" do so. But I don't think the majority of them do. I think the majority of them, because they were spawned from single-mothers, adulate and copy femininity and feminine behavior. Thus they "feel like" females, and this corrupts their sexual identity along with the exterior Marxist pressures pervasive in the West, encouraging them to do so, on top of their intuitive sense.
Do you have any surveys to back up your idea that they're mostly from single-parent families? I'm not saying it's necessarily wrong, but it would be interesting to find out.

It's also worth pointing out, though, that the vast majority of people raised in single parent families don't become trans.
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Maia wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:39 amDo you have any surveys to back up your idea that they're mostly from single-parent families? I'm not saying it's necessarily wrong, but it would be interesting to find out.

It's also worth pointing out, though, that the vast majority of people raised in single parent families don't become trans.
No, I'm just guessing.

There are many Trans teenage boys now whos liberal-leftist-socialist father encourages him to 'transition' or act feminine now too. There are gradations of the phenomenon which correspond to the degree Trans go in their deceptions. For example, most Transmen do not castrate themselves, although there is increased social and political pressure to force 'acceptance' of the idea to the masses now. There's a lot of debate in alternative media now, of the reason why it's "not okay" for younger than 18-year-olds to have access to pornography, drugs, paraphernalia...meanwhile liberal-leftists "wokies" are actively encouraging them to remove their genitals.

Then, these "wokies" come onto this philosophy forum and feign ignorance, like they don't know any better...quite sick really.
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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:45 am
Maia wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:39 amDo you have any surveys to back up your idea that they're mostly from single-parent families? I'm not saying it's necessarily wrong, but it would be interesting to find out.

It's also worth pointing out, though, that the vast majority of people raised in single parent families don't become trans.
No, I'm just guessing.

There are many Trans teenage boys now whos liberal-leftist-socialist father encourages him to 'transition' or act feminine now too. There are gradations of the phenomenon which correspond to the degree Trans go in their deceptions. For example, most Transmen do not castrate themselves, although there is increased social and political pressure to force 'acceptance' of the idea to the masses now. There's a lot of debate in alternative media now, of the reason why it's "not okay" for younger than 18-year-olds to have access to pornography, drugs, paraphernalia...meanwhile liberal-leftists "wokies" are actively encouraging them to remove their genitals.

Then, these "wokies" come onto this philosophy forum and feign ignorance, like they don't know any better...quite sick really.
I find it particularly worrying that while most trans adults are men who want to be women, the opposite is the case in children.
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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:37 am In addition to that point, there have always been 'feminine' men throughout every point in time, every society, every civilization. But traditional morality imposes Shame against this bloc of men, to hide and feel embarrassed about their 'lesser' masculine disposition. Only when traditional morality is destroyed, removed completely, do these destructive sexual forces go on a rampage. Thus there is a logic to the sexual suppression of feminine-men by moral institutions.

In general, it is simply unhealthy for the larger society.
Those men don't look very 'feminine' to me. Quite the opposite in fact. The irony is that men seem to gain more aggression and testosterone along with the women's clothes. Why do you think so many horror films have male serial killers in women's attire? Men in women's clothes are just fucking scary.
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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:35 am
Maia wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:25 amPerhaps they're jealous of women. Jealousy breeds hatred.
I don't think people imitate those they hate, unless it's mockery.

Maybe some "Transmen" do so. But I don't think the majority of them do. I think the majority of them, because they were spawned from single-mothers, adulate and copy femininity and feminine behavior. Thus they "feel like" females, and this corrupts their sexual identity along with the exterior Marxist pressures pervasive in the West, encouraging them to do so, on top of their intuitive sense.
Do you have any formal qualifications to give credibility to this assessment, or is this just the outflow of a numb skull who says the first thing that comes into his head?
In addition to that point, there have always been 'feminine' men throughout every point in time, every society, every civilization. But traditional morality imposes Shame against this bloc of men, to hide and feel embarrassed about their 'lesser' masculine disposition. Only when traditional morality is destroyed, removed completely, do these destructive sexual forces go on a rampage. Thus there is a logic to the sexual suppression of feminine-men by moral institutions.

In general, it is simply unhealthy for the larger society.
Just because you have a problem with something, it doesn't mean that "larger society" has a problem with it. If you don't like feminine men, just stay away from them, instead of trying to talk every one else into not liking them as well. :roll:
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Maia wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:51 amI find it particularly worrying that while most trans adults are men who want to be women, the opposite is the case in children.
Children view their mother/femininity as their supreme power source in early life. But once children surpass puberty and adolescence, it switches over to perceive males/masculinity as the supreme power, because of how males dominate in political violence.

This is simple as a baby being nourished, breast-fed by his/her mother. Mother is the life-giver. To repeat the point, this changed after adolescence and puberty.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:56 amThose men don't look very 'feminine' to me. Quite the opposite in fact. The irony is that men seem to gain more aggression and testosterone along with the women's clothes. Why do you think so many horror films have male serial killers in women's attire? Men in women's clothes are just fucking scary.
I agree, but you're lying if you can't tell the difference between masculine and feminine trans-"men".
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Harbal wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:59 am
Wizard22 wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:35 am
Maia wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:25 amPerhaps they're jealous of women. Jealousy breeds hatred.
I don't think people imitate those they hate, unless it's mockery.

Maybe some "Transmen" do so. But I don't think the majority of them do. I think the majority of them, because they were spawned from single-mothers, adulate and copy femininity and feminine behavior. Thus they "feel like" females, and this corrupts their sexual identity along with the exterior Marxist pressures pervasive in the West, encouraging them to do so, on top of their intuitive sense.
Do you have any formal qualifications to give credibility to this assessment, or is this just the outflow of a numb skull who says the first thing that comes into his head?
In addition to that point, there have always been 'feminine' men throughout every point in time, every society, every civilization. But traditional morality imposes Shame against this bloc of men, to hide and feel embarrassed about their 'lesser' masculine disposition. Only when traditional morality is destroyed, removed completely, do these destructive sexual forces go on a rampage. Thus there is a logic to the sexual suppression of feminine-men by moral institutions.

In general, it is simply unhealthy for the larger society.
Just because you have a problem with something, it doesn't mean that "larger society" has a problem with it. If you don't like feminine men, just stay away from them, instead of trying to talk every one else into not liking them as well. :roll:
You clearly failed college or whatever university your parents bent-over backward to bribe you into...
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