is trans genocide a thing?

[Immanuel Can]

But the idea of "genocide" has become a very potent image to humanity, at least after the Holocaust in Europe, not that genocide hasn't happened to other groups even before that.

That's why the word is used. It's an easy way to manipulate people. Nobody wants to be associated with participating in a genocide.

Yes. So invoking the word in regard to those who simply don't agree with "trans" ideology is actually a very cheap trick. We ought not to be fooled...or even enticed...but such absurd, melodramatic and deceptive usage. We ought to laugh, and tell the people who talk like that to get lost.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Peter Kropotkin called me a 'vegan'. That's a hate crime. He's LITERALLY trying to genocide me

[Gary Childress]

I agree that it's melodramatic, however, nature and society are still not always nice to those who deviate from social norms.

Well, "deviating" can be tolerable or unworthy of toleration, depending on what it entails.

True. According to many Christian denominations, just expressing skepticism concerning God's existence seems to bring discomfort and when society is dominated by Christian institutions, then it can make a significant difference on how people who "deviate" from that belief are treated or perceived. I mean, who wants to go to a bakery and be refused by the owner to make a cake for their wedding for the stated reason that their "values" do not match the baker's? It sort of sends the message that someone thinks your way of life is wrong.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I agree that it's melodramatic, however, nature and society are still not always nice to those who deviate from social norms.

Well, "deviating" can be tolerable or unworthy of toleration, depending on what it entails.

True. According to many Christian denominations, just expressing skepticism concerning God's existence seems to bring discomfort and when society is dominated by Christian institutions, then it can make a significant difference on how people who "deviate" from that belief are treated or perceived. I mean, who wants to go to a bakery and be refused by the owner to make a cake for their wedding for the stated reason that their "values" do not match the baker's? It sort of sends the message that someone thinks your way of life is wrong.

Are you thinking of changing sex Gary? I mean, all it takes is a dress and bit of badly applied makeup and voila!

[Gary Childress]

Well, "deviating" can be tolerable or unworthy of toleration, depending on what it entails.

True. According to many Christian denominations, just expressing skepticism concerning God's existence seems to bring discomfort and when society is dominated by Christian institutions, then it can make a significant difference on how people who "deviate" from that belief are treated or perceived. I mean, who wants to go to a bakery and be refused by the owner to make a cake for their wedding for the stated reason that their "values" do not match the baker's? It sort of sends the message that someone thinks your way of life is wrong.

Are you thinking of changing sex Gary? I mean, all it takes is a dress and bit of badly applied makeup and voila!

Why would you think that I'm thinking of changing sex? I'm simply pointing out that "deviance" from social norms can produce tangible effects on the outcomes of the lives of those who deviate. There's nothing phony about that. The question I think we're all pursuing is whether particular examples of "deviance" are either justifiable or not, or even outright insane, and whether or not ways of addressing those deviances that are being used or proposed are appropriate.

[phyllo]

I mean, who wants to go to a bakery and be refused by the owner to make a cake for their wedding for the stated reason that their "values" do not match the baker's? It sort of sends the message that someone thinks your way of life is wrong.

I went to the mechanic to fix a fuel line and he wouldn't do it. Too messy. Too much hassle.

Should I get the government to force him to put in a fuel line for me?

I didn't do that. I went looking for another mechanic to do it.

And it's his business so he can take on any jobs and reject any jobs that he wants.

Maybe when I need something done, I won't go there.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

'Interesting' to note that 'transitioning' is 'encouraged' for gay men in some muslim countries. It's either 'transition' or death. Hmmm.
Now I wonder why some homophobic parents are ending up with 'trans' children?

[Gary Childress]

I mean, who wants to go to a bakery and be refused by the owner to make a cake for their wedding for the stated reason that their "values" do not match the baker's? It sort of sends the message that someone thinks your way of life is wrong.

I went to the mechanic to fix a fuel line and he wouldn't do it. Too messy. Too much hassle.

Should I get the government to force him to put in a fuel line for me?

I didn't do that. I went looking for another mechanic to do it.

And it's his business so he can take on any jobs and reject any jobs that he wants.

Maybe when I need something done, I won't go there.

In the US, generally, a business is not allowed to deny services to anyone based on anything other than whether or not the customer has the ability to pay for the service or whether or not the service is something the provider is able (given abilities as well as time) to perform. This is chiefly because of the way our society treated minorities in the past. It is perhaps understandable that something like that doesn't evoke too much outrage in more racially homogenous countries but some in the US are trying to be more accommodating to minorities now, after our past. Of course, recently there's been a lot more pushback over it. Some believe that the scales are tipping toward discriminating against white males even. I don't know how true that is but it does seem one could make a valid case in that way at times.

[phyllo]

In the US, generally, a business is not allowed to deny services to anyone based on anything other than whether or not the customer has the ability to pay for the service or whether or not the service is something the provider is able (given abilities as well as time) to perform. This is chiefly because of the way our society treated minorities in the past. It is perhaps understandable that something like that doesn't evoke too much outrage in more racially homogenous countries but some in the US are trying to be more accommodating to minorities now, after our past. Of course, recently there's been a lot more pushback over it. Some believe that the scales are tipping toward discriminating against white males even. I don't know how true that is but it does seem one could make a valid case in that way at times.

White males are treated like crap all the time. They just don't whine about it.

If a black or indian or asian doesn't want to deal with me, that's fine. I'm going to find someone who is not a dick.

[Immanuel Can]

According to many Christian denominations, just expressing skepticism concerning God's existence seems to bring discomfort

None I know of. All the Christian's I've ever met expect skepticism from the world around. They're quite used to it. So you must be meaning some odd little group you've found.

I mean, who wants to go to a bakery and be refused by the owner to make a cake for their wedding for the stated reason that their "values" do not match the baker's?

Would you bake a cake for a Nazi rally?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

According to many Christian denominations, just expressing skepticism concerning God's existence seems to bring discomfort

None I know of. All the Christian's I've ever met expect skepticism from the world around. They're quite used to it. So you must be meaning some odd little group you've found.

I mean, who wants to go to a bakery and be refused by the owner to make a cake for their wedding for the stated reason that their "values" do not match the baker's?

Would you bake a cake for a Nazi rally?

'Inclusive' means 'inclusive' of everyone. That's the whole point of it. Or could it be that it only means 'inclusive' of 'groups' that wokies approve of?
So confusing...

[phyllo]

Try to organize White Pride Month

[Iwannaplato]

White males are treated like crap all the time. They just don't whine about it.

Whining seems pretty universal. You really don't see lots of white men whining in videos on the internet?

You don't see movies and tv programs that are implicit whines made by white men?

If I had to assign a low whining race it would be the vague batch 'Asian'. I don't come across a lot of Asian men whining or emoting in general. Though, of course, it does happen.

But white men, they whine with the best of them.

[Wizard22]

Peter Kropotkin thinks that if he's not allowed into women's changing rooms and toilets then he's being 'genocided'

Pretty much

[Iwannaplato]

Peter Kropotkin thinks that if he's not allowed into women's changing rooms and toilets then he's being 'genocided'

Pretty much

Great, so we counter hysterical slippery slope idiocy from PK with high schoolers yelling 'fag' and high fiving each other.