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Wizard22
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by Wizard22 » Sun May 28, 2023 9:06 am
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:03 am How does looking through a window differ visually from if the window wasn't there?
It depends on the glass. It could be distorted. It could be a mirror. There's lots of variables.
Skepdick
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by Skepdick » Sun May 28, 2023 9:07 am
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:05 am
Just a basic description will do.
I don't understand what I am being asked to do.
Potentially ALL of the descriptions possible are "basic".
I don't know which basic description I should choose because I don't know why you are asking me to describe it.
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Maia
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by Maia » Sun May 28, 2023 9:08 am
Wizard22 wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:06 am
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:03 am How does looking through a window differ visually from if the window wasn't there?
It depends on the glass. It could be distorted. It could be a mirror. There's lots of variables.
What I'm asking is, how do you know there's any glass there, just from visual cues alone?
Maia
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by Maia » Sun May 28, 2023 9:10 am
Skepdick wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:07 am
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:05 am
Just a basic description will do.
I don't understand what I am being asked to do.
Potentially ALL of the descriptions possible are "basic".
I don't know which basic description I should choose because I don't know why you are asking me to describe it.
Since I can't see it, I just wanted to know what the pic was showing.
Skepdick
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by Skepdick » Sun May 28, 2023 9:14 am
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:10 am
Since I can't see it, I just wanted to know what the pic was showing.
Then how do you know there was a pic?
Describe what you see.
Maia
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by Maia » Sun May 28, 2023 9:15 am
Skepdick wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:14 am
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:10 am
Since I can't see it, I just wanted to know what the pic was showing.
Then how do you know there was a pic?
Describe what you see.
My screenreader notifies me when there's an image embedded in the text.
I'm blind, by the way.
Wizard22
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by Wizard22 » Sun May 28, 2023 9:20 am
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:08 am What I'm asking is, how do you know there's any glass there, just from visual cues alone?
Sometimes people don't know, and end up walking into a pane of glass or glass door.
Usually glass is dusty or blemished, dirty, expected in buildings and windows. This is how most people know it's there.
Maia
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by Maia » Sun May 28, 2023 9:22 am
Wizard22 wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:20 am
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:08 am What I'm asking is, how do you know there's any glass there, just from visual cues alone?
Sometimes people don't know, and end up walking into a pane of glass or glass door.
Usually glass is dusty or blemished, dirty, expected in buildings and windows. This is how most people know it's there.
Assuming it was clean, do people only perceive glass because of non-visual cues?
Skepdick
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by Skepdick » Sun May 28, 2023 9:25 am
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:15 am
My screenreader notifies me when there's an image embedded in the text.
I'm blind, by the way.
Он. ОК. Му bаd.
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 6:42 am
Speaking as someone who is *completely* colour blind
Sо whеn уоu sаid тнат уоu arе *соmplеtеlу* соlоur blind уоu астuаllу меаnт тнат уоu аrе blind?
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Maia
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by Maia » Sun May 28, 2023 9:27 am
Skepdick wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:25 am
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:15 am
My screenreader notifies me when there's an image embedded in the text.
I'm blind, by the way.
Он. ОК. Му bаd.
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 6:42 am
Speaking as someone who is *completely* colour blind
Sо whеn уоu sаid тнат уоu arе соlоur blind уоu астuаllу меаnт тнат уоu аrе blind?
Yes, that's why I jumped on this thread.
Sorry, I assumed everyone knew. I've certainly never made a secret of it.
Skepdick
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by Skepdick » Sun May 28, 2023 9:28 am
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:27 am
Skepdick wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:25 am
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:15 am
My screenreader notifies me when there's an image embedded in the text.
I'm blind, by the way.
Он. ОК. Му bаd.
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 6:42 am
Speaking as someone who is *completely* colour blind
Sо whеn уоu sаid тнат уоu arе соlоur blind уоu астuаllу меаnт тнат уоu аrе blind?
Yes, that's why I jumped on this thread.
Sorry, I assumed everyone knew. I've certainly never made a secret of it.
OK, but you are lying.
I wrote the text above using cyrillic letters which only LOOK like English leters.
Your "screenreader" wouldn't have translated those into English.
You fail the test.
Maia
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by Maia » Sun May 28, 2023 9:30 am
Skepdick wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:28 am
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:27 am
Skepdick wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:25 am
Он. ОК. Му bаd.
Sо whеn уоu sаid тнат уоu arе соlоur blind уоu астuаllу меаnт тнат уоu аrе blind?
Yes, that's why I jumped on this thread.
Sorry, I assumed everyone knew. I've certainly never made a secret of it.
OK, but you are lying.
I wrote the text above using cyrillic letters which only LOOK like English leters.
Your "screenreader" wouldn't have translated those into English.
You fail the test.
Hmm well, all I can say is that JAWS is actually quite good at detecting fonts. Look it up.
Skepdick
Posts: 16022 Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:16 am
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by Skepdick » Sun May 28, 2023 9:36 am
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:30 am
Skepdick wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:28 am
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:27 am
Yes, that's why I jumped on this thread.
Sorry, I assumed everyone knew. I've certainly never made a secret of it.
OK, but you are lying.
I wrote the text above using cyrillic letters which only LOOK like English leters.
Your "screenreader" wouldn't have translated those into English.
You fail the test.
Hmm well, all I can say is that JAWS is actually quite good at detecting fonts. Look it up.
⠕⠅⠂⠀⠊⠀⠃⠑⠇⠊⠑⠧⠑⠀⠽⠕⠥⠲⠀⠺⠑⠀⠉⠁⠝⠀⠅⠑⠑⠏⠀⠙⠕⠊⠝⠛⠀⠞⠓⠊⠎⠀⠙⠊⠗⠑⠉⠞⠇⠽⠀⠊⠝⠀⠃⠗⠁⠊⠇⠇⠑⠀⠊⠋⠀⠊⠞⠀⠍⠁⠅⠑⠎⠀⠽⠕⠥⠗⠀⠇⠊⠋⠑⠀⠑⠁⠎⠊⠑⠗⠲
Maia
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by Maia » Sun May 28, 2023 9:38 am
Skepdick wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:36 am
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:30 am
Skepdick wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:28 am
OK, but you are lying.
I wrote the text above using cyrillic letters which only LOOK like English leters.
Your "screenreader" wouldn't have translated those into English.
You fail the test.
Hmm well, all I can say is that JAWS is actually quite good at detecting fonts. Look it up.
⠕⠅⠂⠀⠊⠀⠃⠑⠇⠊⠑⠧⠑⠀⠽⠕⠥⠲⠀⠺⠑⠀⠉⠁⠝⠀⠅⠑⠑⠏⠀⠙⠕⠊⠝⠛⠀⠞⠓⠊⠎⠀⠙⠊⠗⠑⠉⠞⠇⠽⠀⠊⠝⠀⠃⠗⠁⠊⠇⠇⠑⠀⠊⠋⠀⠊⠞⠀⠍⠁⠅⠑⠎⠀⠽⠕⠥⠗⠀⠇⠊⠋⠑⠀⠑⠁⠎⠊⠑⠗⠲
Not all of them though, whatever that is.
Skepdick
Posts: 16022 Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:16 am
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by Skepdick » Sun May 28, 2023 9:39 am
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:38 am
Skepdick wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:36 am
Maia wrote: ↑ Sun May 28, 2023 9:30 am
Hmm well, all I can say is that JAWS is actually quite good at detecting fonts. Look it up.
⠕⠅⠂⠀⠊⠀⠃⠑⠇⠊⠑⠧⠑⠀⠽⠕⠥⠲⠀⠺⠑⠀⠉⠁⠝⠀⠅⠑⠑⠏⠀⠙⠕⠊⠝⠛⠀⠞⠓⠊⠎⠀⠙⠊⠗⠑⠉⠞⠇⠽⠀⠊⠝⠀⠃⠗⠁⠊⠇⠇⠑⠀⠊⠋⠀⠊⠞⠀⠍⠁⠅⠑⠎⠀⠽⠕⠥⠗⠀⠇⠊⠋⠑⠀⠑⠁⠎⠊⠑⠗⠲
Not all of them though, whatever that is.
That is so peculiar. JAWS supports Braille, does it not?
The above is written in Braille.