Atla wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 11:22 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 11:15 am
Atla wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 6:49 pm
You rejected magical thinking such as: the universe began, space appeared out of nothing.
But you didn't reject the magical thinking of change: the past disappears into nothing, the future appears out of nothing.
What are you even on about here?
I said that, your entire claim about creation and evolution being central reasons for why we are here, can be as easily shown to be based on magical thinking, as the claim that the universe must have began. And then we didn't even look at the other magical claim of yours, that the future and the past should form an asymmetric world.
But 'this' is, OBVIOUSLY, JUST 'your' OWN so-called 'magical thinking' and magically BELIEVING is true "atla".
Will 'you' provide ANY 'thing', which would back up and support YOUR CLAIMS here?
If yes, then GREAT.
But if no, then WHY NOT?
Atla wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 11:22 am
Past evolution is just a necessary route between a simpler state like a Big Bang, and humans.
The WHOLE Universe IS in A Truly VERY SIMPLE and VERY EASY 'state' ALWAYS, HERE-NOW.
AND, 'this' STATE IS, ALSO, VERY SIMPLE and VERY EASY to COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND.
Contrary to popular BELIEF, by SOME, in the days when this was being written, 'those human beings' were NOT MORE COMPLEX than any IMAGINED state like 'the big bang'.
Atla wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 11:22 am
You've given no actual reason to think that evolution will be relevant anymore, nor any actual reason to think that there's anything to "creation".
Were you UNDER some sort of ASSUMPTION that I CARE?
AND LOL this one here BELIEVES that since, through evolution, 'it' has COME-INTO-BEING, 'evolution is NOT 'relevant' ANYMORE. Which is MORE LAUGHABLE each time I envision 'this human being' BELIEVING 'this' to be true.
If 'you' STILL can NOT YET SEE absolutely ANY reason for WHY 'you', ANY "OTHER" human being, nor ANY 'thing' WAS ACTUALLY CREATED, then JUST KEEP BELIEVING that there is NOTHING to 'CREATION'.
By doing so 'you' are HELPING 'me' ACHIEVE 'the goal' here, PERFECTLY.