Being, obviously, the rise of the AI chatbot.
All of the philosophy forums are affected. They are, at least for the moment, fairly easy to detect; meandering and aimless, verbose, lacking any particular perspective or viewpoint, summarising a comprehensive variety of philosophical talking-points without supporting arguments or critical discussion, and evidencing no personal bias or style of writing.
The moderators are reluctant to intervene, for understandable reasons relating to freedom of expression; they will not intervene in threads which are merely absurd, irrelevant, irrational, or unintelligible, because such opinions are also expressed in universities; so we cannot expect them to intervene in threads which are merely trivial and meaningless.
But where does this leave those of us who come here for intelligent discussion? Would we be better off (and here's an interesting thought) if AI was moderating the forum?
Maybe somebody could set up a forum moderated by a chatbot, so we can make a comparison.
The Challenge For Philosophy Forums Today
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Re: The Challenge For Philosophy Forums Today
I've been on a coupla fora and one in particular was me favorite hang out until ... they threw me overboard ... without a life ring, forget a lifeboat.
Thanks to my highly selective memory I recall only few things I read and one was a question that seems ta fit like a glove in re this thread.
Challenge: What's the question.
Thanks to my highly selective memory I recall only few things I read and one was a question that seems ta fit like a glove in re this thread.
Challenge: What's the question.
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Re: The Challenge For Philosophy Forums Today
If you want to chat in a forum where 'freedom of expresion' is suppressed somehow, then by all means go.alan1000 wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 5:30 pm Being, obviously, the rise of the AI chatbot.
All of the philosophy forums are affected. They are, at least for the moment, fairly easy to detect; meandering and aimless, verbose, lacking any particular perspective or viewpoint, summarising a comprehensive variety of philosophical talking-points without supporting arguments or critical discussion, and evidencing no personal bias or style of writing.
The moderators are reluctant to intervene, for understandable reasons relating to freedom of expression; they will not intervene in threads which are merely absurd, irrelevant, irrational, or unintelligible, because such opinions are also expressed in universities; so we cannot expect them to intervene in threads which are merely trivial and meaningless.
But where does this leave those of us who come here for intelligent discussion? Would we be better off (and here's an interesting thought) if AI was moderating the forum?
Maybe somebody could set up a forum moderated by a chatbot, so we can make a comparison.
Re: The Challenge For Philosophy Forums Today
I'm not impressed by ChatGPT so far.
Can anybody make some AI accounts on this forum and set them loose? I want strong debate opponents, not limp-wristed nancy boys who run at the first sign of trouble...
BRING
IT
ON!

Can anybody make some AI accounts on this forum and set them loose? I want strong debate opponents, not limp-wristed nancy boys who run at the first sign of trouble...
BRING
IT
ON!
Re: The Challenge For Philosophy Forums Today
I don't think you have quite understood the point I was making. Please re-read the original post more carefully.Age wrote: ↑Thu May 11, 2023 4:31 amIf you want to chat in a forum where 'freedom of expresion' is suppressed somehow, then by all means go.alan1000 wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 5:30 pm Being, obviously, the rise of the AI chatbot.
All of the philosophy forums are affected. They are, at least for the moment, fairly easy to detect; meandering and aimless, verbose, lacking any particular perspective or viewpoint, summarising a comprehensive variety of philosophical talking-points without supporting arguments or critical discussion, and evidencing no personal bias or style of writing.
The moderators are reluctant to intervene, for understandable reasons relating to freedom of expression; they will not intervene in threads which are merely absurd, irrelevant, irrational, or unintelligible, because such opinions are also expressed in universities; so we cannot expect them to intervene in threads which are merely trivial and meaningless.
But where does this leave those of us who come here for intelligent discussion? Would we be better off (and here's an interesting thought) if AI was moderating the forum?
Maybe somebody could set up a forum moderated by a chatbot, so we can make a comparison.
Re: The Challenge For Philosophy Forums Today
Well considering that you can, supposedly, fairly easily detect posts done by 'artificial intelligence' would you like to share under what name/s 'artificially intelligent' posts are made?alan1000 wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 5:30 pm Being, obviously, the rise of the AI chatbot.
All of the philosophy forums are affected. They are, at least for the moment, fairly easy to detect; meandering and aimless, verbose, lacking any particular perspective or viewpoint, summarising a comprehensive variety of philosophical talking-points without supporting arguments or critical discussion, and evidencing no personal bias or style of writing.
The moderators are reluctant to intervene, for understandable reasons relating to freedom of expression; they will not intervene in threads which are merely absurd, irrelevant, irrational, or unintelligible, because such opinions are also expressed in universities; so we cannot expect them to intervene in threads which are merely trivial and meaningless.
if no, then WHY NOT?
Does ANY come here for UNINTELLIGENT discussions?
No.
We are ALL MUCH BETTER OFF when we are able to go at least somewhere WITHOUT being 'moderated' by ANY particular 'one' nor 'thing'.
Maybe, but I suggest for those who are Truly INTERESTED in 'this', then they do set one UP. In the meantime WHY NOT let 'this forum' be, how it is, that is; relatively moderator FREE.
By the way, if you, or ANY one "else", wants to chat in a forum where 'freedom of expression' is suppressed in some way, then by all means go to one of 'those forums'. After all FINDING one would NOT be that hard to do, AT ALL.