How would you define Life?
How would you define Life?
My definition...You are dead before you are born and again after you die.
Re: How would you define Life?
I begin with Biology, the study of cellular 'Life'.
Viruses seem to be "semi-alive", same with many fungal behaviors and systems. The study of single-cell, complex-cell, and organic material is necessary. If bacteria is "not alive", then any larger animal comprised of cellular structures, must not be so. And yet a dead animal, decaying, still is comprised of cells, bacteria, viruses. It is inanimate. Its cells are decomposing. Often times other animals/worms/scavengers consume the decayed and rotten corpse.
Cells recycle.
If somebody can trace the ways cells 'Recycle', then they have a better and more in-depth analysis/understanding of Life.
Consciousness is *NOT* a requirement of Life. Most of Life, is not Conscious.
Viruses seem to be "semi-alive", same with many fungal behaviors and systems. The study of single-cell, complex-cell, and organic material is necessary. If bacteria is "not alive", then any larger animal comprised of cellular structures, must not be so. And yet a dead animal, decaying, still is comprised of cells, bacteria, viruses. It is inanimate. Its cells are decomposing. Often times other animals/worms/scavengers consume the decayed and rotten corpse.
Cells recycle.
If somebody can trace the ways cells 'Recycle', then they have a better and more in-depth analysis/understanding of Life.
Consciousness is *NOT* a requirement of Life. Most of Life, is not Conscious.
Re: How would you define Life?
Nice definition, thanks, that was most interesting.Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 8:25 am I begin with Biology, the study of cellular 'Life'.
Viruses seem to be "semi-alive", same with many fungal behaviors and systems. The study of single-cell, complex-cell, and organic material is necessary. If bacteria is "not alive", then any larger animal comprised of cellular structures, must not be so. And yet a dead animal, decaying, still is comprised of cells, bacteria, viruses. It is inanimate. Its cells are decomposing. Often times other animals/worms/scavengers consume the decayed and rotten corpse.
Cells recycle.
If somebody can trace the ways cells 'Recycle', then they have a better and more in-depth analysis/understanding of Life.
Consciousness is *NOT* a requirement of Life. Most of Life, is not Conscious.
Re: How would you define Life?
1. 'Life' - ALL, Everything, TOTALITY, ALL-THERE-IS, or Existence, Itself. That is; The WHOLE 'Life' is alive and living, as A unified One, ETERNALLY.
2. 'life' - A period of time, an era, an age. Life, for example, the ice age, the iron age, the golden age, the bronze age, the industrial age, or the space age. These are periods of time which begin, and end. They come to exist, exist, and then exist in the One ETERNAL Life. These CHANGING 'periods' of 'life' are all 'alive and living things', but which exist in 'thought' or 'concept' only.
3. 'life' - From the beginning of one particular 'thing', like an atom, a cell, a virus, a bacteria, a vegetable, an animal, a mineral, a star, a solar system, or a galaxy to then of 'that' 'thing'. ALL of these 'things' come into Existence, exist, and exist. These 'life' forms, from the birth of each of these 'things' to their end are, again, alive and living, physical, 'things'.
4. 'life' - Is just the way one of those 'things' in definition 3 here 'live' their 'life's'. For example, one of those 'animals' above are human bodies. Each human body is created, or conceived, evolves, and decays. This 'life' is in regards to the way one 'lives' their 'life'. Which, again, happens within Existence, or 'Life', Itself.
2. 'life' - A period of time, an era, an age. Life, for example, the ice age, the iron age, the golden age, the bronze age, the industrial age, or the space age. These are periods of time which begin, and end. They come to exist, exist, and then exist in the One ETERNAL Life. These CHANGING 'periods' of 'life' are all 'alive and living things', but which exist in 'thought' or 'concept' only.
3. 'life' - From the beginning of one particular 'thing', like an atom, a cell, a virus, a bacteria, a vegetable, an animal, a mineral, a star, a solar system, or a galaxy to then of 'that' 'thing'. ALL of these 'things' come into Existence, exist, and exist. These 'life' forms, from the birth of each of these 'things' to their end are, again, alive and living, physical, 'things'.
4. 'life' - Is just the way one of those 'things' in definition 3 here 'live' their 'life's'. For example, one of those 'animals' above are human bodies. Each human body is created, or conceived, evolves, and decays. This 'life' is in regards to the way one 'lives' their 'life'. Which, again, happens within Existence, or 'Life', Itself.
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Agent Smith
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Re: How would you define Life?
Dude, take a horn. Yeah, take a horn. Remember not to do a Vlad and variations of it. I have enough problems as it is, I don't wanna be dragged into court for making suggestions that could be life-threatening or extremely painful. I live in the same way as other living things do or at least I hope I do. I suggest what's only the endpoint of, essentially, the logical conclusion of this chain of reasoning, in all possible directions. Imagine yourself caught, willingly I hope, in a black widow's web. Be warned she's hungry, very hungry; the tugging of lines in her web will decide yer fate ... liberation or liquefaction.
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popeye1945
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Re: How would you define Life?
Life, a lot of protoplasm with an urge to reproduce.
Re: How would you define Life?
Yet again, we have the failure to define basic terms. Clearly I am not "deceased" before I am born, in the usual sense of the word, so you must be using the word "dead" in a special, personal meaning. Would you care to share it with us? Would that help to make your philosophical point clearer?
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Re: How would you define Life?
Consciousness is life, life is consciousness.
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Re: How would you define Life?
One poster's on the right track. I hope he has more ta say about life. Go on ...
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popeye1945
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Re: How would you define Life?
Bubbles in a boiling cauldron -- pop, pop, pop, and pop!
Re: How would you define Life?
'Dead' to me means unborn.alan1000 wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2023 2:14 pm
Yet again, we have the failure to define basic terms. Clearly I am not "deceased" before I am born, in the usual sense of the word, so you must be using the word "dead" in a special, personal meaning. Would you care to share it with us? Would that help to make your philosophical point clearer?
You were unborn before you were born. In other words, any thing born is ultimately the unborn born. Nothing lives, nothing dies, everything is already dead. There is no thing living life, except in this conception. That which lives never dies, and that which dies never lives.
“We start, then, with nothing, pure zero. But this is not the nothing of negation. For not means other than, and other is merely a synonym of the ordinal numeral second. As such it implies a first; while the present pure zero is prior to every first. The nothing of negation is the nothing of death, which comes second to, or after, everything. But this pure zero is the nothing of not having been born. There is no individual thing, no compulsion, outward nor inward, no law. It is the germinal nothing, in which the whole universe is involved or foreshadowed. As such, it is absolutely undefined and unlimited possibility -- boundless possibility. There is no compulsion and no law. It is boundless freedom.”
Charles S. Peirce, The Essential Peirce, Volume 2: Selected Philosophical Writings, 1893–1913