A Philosophy for the Future

[Wizard22]

In almost all cultural content, discussion, argument, debate, political issue, religious issue, etc. nobody is looking forward into the future.

People seem to be affixed on the Past. A small section of people, are focused on the Present, which is an improvement. But almost nobody is looking to the future.

This is why these 'negative' values of freedom and liberty, Neo-Liberalism, is so prevalent. Everybody is fighting over what humanity should be "free from". But nobody is fighting, yet, over what humanity should be "free to" do.



This is why Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are at the helm of Humanity as of 2023AD. These are the top humans on the planet. Because nothing is Nobler, more important, more valuable, than broadening human horizons.

This means space research, exploration, travel, colonization, and possibly, conquest over any alien peoples.

Until a large brunt of humanity turns their minds and perspectives toward the Future, people will remain on Earth, squabbling for table scraps, for endless decades, centuries, and millenniums to come.



Most of humanity will stay as crocodiles and alligators, evolutionarily stagnant, sitting in a pool of mud for 10 thousand years to come, going nowhere, inspired by nothing, inspiring nothing.

[Sculptor]

In almost all cultural content, discussion, argument, debate, political issue, religious issue, etc. nobody is looking forward into the future.

People seem to be affixed on the Past. A small section of people, are focused on the Present, which is an improvement. But almost nobody is looking to the future.

This is why these 'negative' values of freedom and liberty, Neo-Liberalism, is so prevalent. Everybody is fighting over what humanity should be "free from". But nobody is fighting, yet, over what humanity should be "free to" do.



This is why Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are at the helm of Humanity as of 2023AD. These are the top humans on the planet. Because nothing is Nobler, more important, more valuable, than broadening human horizons.

This means space research, exploration, travel, colonization, and possibly, conquest over any alien peoples.

Until a large brunt of humanity turns their minds and perspectives toward the Future, people will remain on Earth, squabbling for table scraps, for endless decades, centuries, and millenniums to come.



Most of humanity will stay as crocodiles and alligators, evolutionarily stagnant, sitting in a pool of mud for 10 thousand years to come, going nowhere, inspired by nothing, inspiring nothing.

Not sure this is true.
As we type we are making the future, and everything we do is in the interests of what comes next to us.
We do not know the future so cannot types about it. Yet all we do the future is the silent partner to all our interests.
As for space conquest.

That is a croc of shite. And will never happen.
See me for more details.


Crocodiles got their shit sorted million of years ago, and the fat they are much the same as then, it a testament to their success.

[Iwannaplato]

Not sure this is true.

In my world it's simply not true. I see people talking about, planning for, expecting things in relation to the future all the time. I am bombarded with information about the great (and terrible) things coming: new products, new technologies, smart cities, whatever. Politicians with plans and new laws and programs. Activists demanding that in the future we......[all sorts of stuff].

If you want to create an idiotic position, don't be subtle. Assert something inane: people only focus on the past. Don't justify your hallucination. Then rant based on it.

Crocodiles got their shit sorted million of years ago, and the fat they are much the same as then, it a testament to their success.

Now he'll say you admire crocodiles and have no human aspirations. Not saying you should care about his reactions, but it is feeding the troll.
Or perhaps...feeding the human crocodile.

The funny thing is Peter Kropotkin accuses Conservatives of wanting to go back to the past and also thinks no one thinks about the future enough.

One could only hope they end up in the same waterpool snapping at each other's tails.

[FlashDangerpants]

This is why Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are at the helm of Humanity as of 2023AD. These are the top humans on the planet.

Both frequent guests of Jeff Epstein. You really know how to pick your heroes.

[Wizard22]

Not sure this is true.
As we type we are making the future, and everything we do is in the interests of what comes next to us.
We do not know the future so cannot types about it. Yet all we do the future is the silent partner to all our interests.
As for space conquest.

That is a croc of shite. And will never happen.
See me for more details.

Crocodiles got their shit sorted million of years ago, and the fat they are much the same as then, it a testament to their success.

It's true that everybody is moving 'forward' regardless of realizing it. The point I'm making is more about turning people's perspectives 'forward' as well. Instead, people squabble about relatively minor and miniscule problems. Simply look at the titles on this forum. These are the 'philosophical' matters du jour. How many of them really posit the future, 10 years from now, 100 years from now?

I'm not saying that these present problems aren't important or consequential. I am saying though, that the future is more important. In centuries past, Europeans had ideals of 'God' to orient them toward the Future. They made great Cathedrals. They wrote great stories and fables. They defended their lands, and explored new ones, in the context of something Greater-than-oneself. In the 20th Century, Americans had political nationalism, and the ideal of Country, which drove industry and inventions. But today? What is there today, without an ideal beyond oneself?

It's important that humanity, and large societies are driven by larger, nobler ideals, than one's selfish-self. Otherwise your or anybody's "Future" is boiled-down to hedonistic, decadent gains. How much money is in your bank account, how hot your wife is, how better your children are than your neighbors, your vanity above others'.

It's evident that that gets humanity nowhere.

That is humans being crocodiles, lounging in the swamp, forever. Purgatory.

[Wizard22]

Both frequent guests of Jeff Epstein. You really know how to pick your heroes.

At least Epstein isn't my kin.

[FlashDangerpants]

Both frequent guests of Jeff Epstein. You really know how to pick your heroes.

At least Epstein isn't my kin.

Are you doing another of your little anti-semitisms at me?

[Wizard22]

Are you seriously doing another anti-semitism at me?

How else would I learn how to kvetch so well without you teaching me?

Don't pretend like you care about victims of child sex trafficking now. You were just in the Sodom and Gamorrah thread preaching the exact-opposite point. At least try to main consistent in your beliefs?

[FlashDangerpants]

Are you seriously doing another anti-semitism at me?

How else would I learn how to kvetch so well without you teaching me?

Don't pretend like you care about victims of child sex trafficking now. You were just in the Sodom and Gamorrah thread preaching the exact-opposite point. At least try to main consistent in your beliefs?

Are you autistic?

[Wizard22]

Are you autistic?

Whatever fantasies and adulation you have of Epstein's Island, keep them to yourself.

Now, if you have nothing further to add to the topic, then it can get back on track.

[FlashDangerpants]

Are you autistic?

Whatever fantasies and adulation you have of Epstein's Island, keep them to yourself.

Now, if you have nothing further to add to the topic, then it can get back on track.

Why do you keep doing the anti-semitic comments Wizard?

If you aren't autistic something else is going wrong. You profoundly misread my comments in the other thread where I was calling you out for your wild hypocrisy, which is very different from joining in with your weirdo death cult bullshit.

[Wizard22]

You are a perfect example of what I talk about in the OP.

Somebody whose mind is firmly attached to the present, or the past. Your mental obsessions prevent you from The Future. But worse than that, you feel that you have to drag another down at the very notion of it. I think most are like you. It's as if your mind, your mentality is chained to the past.

What is Nobler than what Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos have done, and are doing?



What does you and your kind do?

You interrupt it. You piss on it. You denigrate it. You defecate in the middle of a crowded museum. You yell and shout, make as big a scene as you can. It's about you-you-you.

That's how and why most of humanity gets pulled-down, crabs in a pot syndrome. How can anybody look 'forward', when people like you won't let anybody else?



Atlas needs to shrug parasites off. Then and only then, can anybody take a step toward the future.

[Wizard22]

There has to be a new, another, a next "Great Ideal" that leads humanity into the future.

In the 20th Century, it was Americanism, leading innovation and inventions, space technology.

Before the 20th Century, classically, it was "God".


Call it whatever name, whatever Ideal you want. But there needs to be something 'bigger than oneself' for humanity to rally around.

NOT directed to shrieking children and infantile temper-tantrums. People need to look Up, not Down, Ahead, not Backward.

[FlashDangerpants]

You are a perfect example of what I talk about in the OP.

Somebody whose mind is firmly attached to the present, or the past.

You have already demonstrated that you are incredibly bad at understanding what other people think or say. That's why I asked if you are autistic. You have no basis for asserting that anyone else doesn't think about the future and indeed the entire notion is quite stupid, along with it's author (unless he has a disability in which case I guess he's doing great).

[Wizard22]

You have already demonstrated that you are incredibly bad at understanding what other people think or say. That's why I asked if you are autistic. You have no basis for asserting that anyone else doesn't think about the future and indeed the entire notion is quite stupid, along with it's author (unless he has a disability in which case I guess he's doing great).

Incorrect, Autism implies that I'm clueless of your motivations, and greater social interactions.

I know exactly what you're doing though, that's the problem.

I made this thread...and what do you do? You make baseless accusations that "Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are pedophiles". Are they??? Probably not. You're deranged in conspiracy theory. Let's assume, for the sake of argument, they had sex with...a 16 year old girl trafficked from Ukraine. Okay, and? Does that suddenly negate all their progress? Does that mean that their space exploration isn't/wasn't important?


You have a small mind, Flash. You need to pop some brain-pills to keep up here. Let's see what you got...anything else?