Etymology of 'Fact': PH's Fact is Illusory

[Veritas Aequitas]

An understanding of the etymology of 'fact' i.e. the original intended meaning will exposed why Peter Holmes', 'what is fact is illusory'.

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borrowed from Latin factum "deed, action, real event," noun derivative from neuter of factus, past participle of facere "to make, bring about, perform, do," going back to a suffixed form *dhh1-k-i̯e- (with perfect fēcī from *dheh1-k-) of Indo-European *dhh1-, dheh1- "put, place, make, do"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fact

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It’s a fact that the Latin root word fact has ‘made’ many words in English; in point of fact, it even means ‘made’ or ‘done.’ Some common English words that come from fact include manufacture, artifact, and satisfaction. A very easy way to remember fact is the original idea behind the word factory, which is a place where products are ‘made.’
https://membean.com/rootcasts/fact-made/

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fact (n.)
1530s, "action, a thing performed, anything done, a deed," good or evil but in 16c.-17c. commonly "evil deed, crime;" from Latin factum "an event, occurrence, deed, achievement," in Medieval Latin also "state, condition, circumstance" (source also of Old French fait, Spanish hecho, Italian fatto), etymologically "a thing done," noun use of neuter of factus, past participle of facere "to do" (from PIE root *dhe- "to set, put").
An earlier adaptation of the Old French word that also became feat. The older senses are mostly obsolete but somewhat preserved in such phrases as after the fact, originally legal, "after the crime." Also compare matter-of-fact.

The modern, empirical, sense of "thing known to be true, a real state of things, what has really occurred or is actually the case," as distinguished from statement or belief, is from 1630s, from the notion of "something that has actually occurred."
The particular concept of the scientific, empirical fact ("a truth known by observation or authentic testimony") emerged in English 1660s, via Hooke, Boyle, etc., in The Royal Society, as part of the creation of the modern vocabulary of knowledge (along with theory, hypothesis, etc.); in early 18c. it was associated with the philosophical writings of Hume. Middle English thus lacked the noun and the idea of it; the closest expression being perhaps thing proved (c.1500).
Hence facts "real state of things;" in fact "in reality" (1707). By 1729, fact was being used of "something presented as a fact but which might be or is false."
By fact is also often meant a true statement, a truth, or truth in general ; but this seems to be a mere inexactness of language .... Fact, as being special, is sometimes opposed to truth, as being universal ; and in such cases there is an implication that facts are minute matters ascertained by research, and often inferior in their importance for the formation of general opinions, or for the general description of phenomena, to other matters which are of familiar experience. [Century Dictionary]
Facts of life is by 1854 as "the stark realities of existence;" by 1913 it had also acquired a more specific sense of "knowledge of human sexual functions." The alliterative pairing of facts and figures for "precise information" is by 1727.
Facts and Figures are the most stubborn Evidences; they neither yield to the most persuasive Eloquence, nor bend to the most imperious Authority. [Abel Boyer, "The Political State of Great Britain," 1727]
Facts are stubborn things is in an 1822 translation of the popular novel "Gil Blas" (earlier English translations have facts speak for themselves).
https://www.etymonline.com/word/fact
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As above,
the noun fact is a derivative from neuter of factus, past participle of facere "to make, bring about, perform, do,"

Giambattista Vico [1710] asserted “Verum ipsum factum” – the truth is the same as the made.

As such, fact [Vico's] as "the made" in this case refer to the making by humans.
We can see, the original 'fact' is grounded on human interventions and actions.

The modern version of "what is fact" as used by PH is a corrupted and bastardized terms which has no grounding at all other than linguistic consensus.

This is why I am claiming PH 'what is fact is illusory"
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PH has yet to counter my above claim.

PH: because what we call a fact is a feature of reality that is or was the case - a thing that has nothing to do with knowledge and the truth of a description.
If that is the case, then it is a mystical creature and woo woo.
If not, produce evidence that such a thing [your fact] exists as real.

[Veritas Aequitas]

Notes:

I claimed,
'what is fact' is that which is conditioned upon a specific human-based FSK,
which is closer to its original etymological intention, i.e. "to make, bring about, perform, do".

[FlashDangerpants]

Wait till he learns about the etymology of "boy" and "girl". By the reasoning above all little boys are now girls.

[Harbal]

There's a rumour that Peter Holmes has taken out a restraining order on VA.

[Flannel Jesus]

There's another counter rumor that va and ph are the same person. I've never seen them in the same room at the same time before...

[Harbal]

There's another counter rumor that va and ph are the same person. I've never seen them in the same room at the same time before...

But if you were going to have a split personality, why on earth would you choose VA to be one of them?

[Veritas Aequitas]

There's another counter rumor that va and ph are the same person. I've never seen them in the same room at the same time before...

Even it is so, the bottom line is I get to increase my database of knowledge in relation to Ethical Theory.

Btw, you are fundamentally in the same shoe with PH with reference to Philosophical Realism, the evolutionary default of proto-ideology.

[Iwannaplato]

1) I'm not sure why the orginal meaning of a word wins
2) It comes from the Latin do, make, deed, event. Who does things in the old Roman worldview?
Humans, gods, deities, spirits, nature.

Will VA start talking about Mars' various FSKs?

[FlashDangerpants]

1) I'm not sure why the orginal meaning of a word wins
2) It comes from the Latin do, make, deed, event. Who does things in the old Roman worldview?
Humans, gods, deities, spirits, nature.

Will VA start talking about Mars' various FSKs?

The problem is that the guy who fitted the water pipes in VA's house used the Latin definition of 'plumber', the water quality that resulted from all his pipes being cast from lead explains all VA's failings rather elegantly.

[Flannel Jesus]

There's another counter rumor that va and ph are the same person. I've never seen them in the same room at the same time before...

Even it is so, the bottom line is I get to increase my database of knowledge in relation to Ethical Theory.

Btw, you are fundamentally in the same shoe with PH with reference to Philosophical Realism, the evolutionary default of proto-ideology.

That sounds suspiciously like something ph would say ...

[Harbal]

1) I'm not sure why the orginal meaning of a word wins
2) It comes from the Latin do, make, deed, event. Who does things in the old Roman worldview?
Humans, gods, deities, spirits, nature.

Will VA start talking about Mars' various FSKs?

One FSK to rule them all, One FSK to find them, One FSK to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them. In the Land of Veritas Aequitas where the Shadows lie.

[Agent Smith]

Lemme get this straight, forget it, I've ridden this carousel a million, billion times! However, I know one person who would relate to the OP ... snaps fingers ... like that! Nah, I'm not Thanos! Just curious, what would happen if Thanos did that thing he does with his fingers ... twice?!

[Peter Holmes]

Check out the etymological fallacy.

Just saying.

' Sely (silly) used to mean 'innocent' - as in the silly sheep. So that's what silly really means.'

Face palm.

[Peter Holmes]

There's another counter rumor that va and ph are the same person. I've never seen them in the same room at the same time before...

Me n VA?

Smore like a Vulcan mind-meld with a Cling-on.

[Flannel Jesus]

There's another counter rumor that va and ph are the same person. I've never seen them in the same room at the same time before...

Me n VA?

Smore like a Vulcan mind-meld with a Cling-on.

That sounds suspiciously like something VA would say....