WE NEED MORE GUNS..

[Skepdick]

I'm sure that impersonating a police officer is considered as serious an offence in your country as it is in mine, so I hope you only do it in the privacy of your own home, officer Skepdick.

No need to impersonate one. I am a police officer. Even when off-duty.

But like I said - having a badge buys me no legal privileges so I don't understand why anybody would ever legally want to impersonate a police officer.

[commonsense]

The public don't have guns, and ordinary police officers don't carry guns, and I am in favour of that situation. The police force has armed units, which are deployed as and when necessary.

So your armed police aren't members of the public? What are they? Superhumans from another planet?

There are police, and then there’s the public they serve. Officers have their own culture, their own lexicon, their own way of life, distinct from civilians and perps.

[Harbal]

So do you think the public should be issued with handcuffs, as well as guns?

Issued? No.
Allowed to acquire their own? Of course.

And that is a strange way of describing how a firearms officer is only allowed to carry a gun while on duty.

Oh, I am sorry. Did I get the exact numbers wrong, or are you trying to tell me that your superhuman armed officers work 24/7/365?

I see your point. I now see that you shouldn't be allowed to have a gun under any circumstances.

Yep. Get rid of the armed police! Resolve those mutually exclusive principles.

What on earth is this doing in my in-tray, Miss Jones?

It's your job to filter out the rubbish before it gets to my desk. Remove it immediately.

[Age]

But WHO EVER SAID that 'you', human beings, did NOT NEED guns, BACK THEN?

Why would we need guns "back then"?

To PROTECT "one's" 'self' FROM the non human animals into which new lands one was VENTURING INTO.

ALSO, to make it EASIER and SIMPLER to OBTAIN food.

If nobody has guns then why would anybody need to invent guns?

LOL

So, DID you and DO you REALLY BELIEVE that guns ARE NEEDED, just BECAUSE "OTHER" people ALREADY HAVE guns?

ALSO, FOR THE VERY REASONS I JUST ABOVE.

Just out of CURIOSITY, WHY do you think or BELIEVE guns WERE INVENTED?

Did you think or BELIEVE that guns WERE INVENTED to PROTECT 'you', human beings, FROM 'you', human beings?

[Harbal]

I'm sure that impersonating a police officer is considered as serious an offence in your country as it is in mine, so I hope you only do it in the privacy of your own home, officer Skepdick.

No need to impersonate one. I am a police officer. Even when off-duty.

I daresay you are also a doctor, or a lawyer, when the situation calls for it.

[commonsense]

Because we tend not to train our wives to do the job here.

Why do you train anybody? Does the job even need doing?

Most people are not mass murderers.

Most.

[Age]

You are evading the question. Replace "authorized firearm officer" with "civilian gun owner" and the exact same principle applies. Everybody who uses lethal force is accountable under the law!

So when is an "authorized firearm officer" allowed to use lethal force?

In answer to the question 'when', you'll have to ask the police officer armed with the firearm that question, not me. I'm assuming any firearm officer would instinctively use his or her own freedom of discretion in the immediate moment they find themselves coming face to face with an actual incident as and when, or if one occurs.

I don't care what "most" of them do. I am asking you why ANY of them need guns.

You don't want guns in your country, right? DIsarm everybody!

Yes, I agree, all guns should be eliminated from the face of the earth, and why they have not yet been, I cannot do anything about that.

All I know is that I live in a country where no one who lives here walks around with a gun stuffed down their knickers, except for the odd escapee from prison or some other weird nutjob institution, but then you'll always get some pockets of crazies creeping around in any human society.

WHICH, if WITHIN A society there were NO guns AT ALL, then, OBVIOUSLY, ABSOLUTELY NO one, nutjob or not, COULD 'get their hands' ON a gun.

[Age]

So do you think the public should be issued with handcuffs, as well as guns?

Issued? No.
Allowed to acquire their own? Of course.

SHOULD 'the public' also be allowed to acquire their OWN 'fully automatic machine guns', 'rocket launches', 'weapons of mass destruction', and 'nuclear war heads' AS WELL?

Your Honest here, like ALWAYS, would be MUCH APPRECIATED.

And that is a strange way of describing how a firearms officer is only allowed to carry a gun while on duty.

Oh, I am sorry. Did I get the exact numbers wrong, or are you trying to tell me that your superhuman armed officers work 24/7/365?

I see your point. I now see that you shouldn't be allowed to have a gun under any circumstances.

Yep. Get rid of the armed police! Resolve those mutually exclusive principles.

[Skepdick]

There are police, and then there’s the public they serve. Officers have their own culture, their own lexicon, their own way of life, distinct from civilians and perps.

The fact that you belong to some sub-culture doesn't make you any less human; nor does it make the laws any more or less applicable to you.

[commonsense]

Not when they are on duty, no.

Legally, i have absolutely no. idea what that means. You have laws allowing for citizen's arrest.

For the purposes of arresting somebody who has just committed a crime there is no legal distinction between a citizen and a police officer.

They have equivalent mandates.

Citizens don’t have a mandate to protect and serve nor to make arrests.

[Skepdick]

I daresay you are also a doctor, or a lawyer, when the situation calls for it.

I don't know how successful you would be performing self-surgery, but self-representation in a court of law and self-defence are doable.

[commonsense]

It IS a MUCH STRANGER 'system' AND 'society' where one BELIEVES that they NEED (MORE) guns 24 hours a day just to PROTECT "themselves".

So you don' thave a seatbelt in your car? You call the Special Seatbelt Unit when you are having an accident.

Absurd.

[Skepdick]

Citizens don’t have a mandate to protect and serve nor to make arrests.

Neither do police officers. Their mandate is to society, not to individuals in need of their life being defended.

Police officers have no duty to risk their life in order to protect yours. Of course, some do anyway.

[commonsense]

BECAUSE guns are NOT NEEDED ANY MORE. Unless, OF COURSE, there are people LIKE 'you', "skepdick", STILL AROUND.

I think you are lying.

Rewind history back to 1100 - guns didn't even exist. If we didn't need them then why did we invent them?

And if we did need guns then why did we need them? Nobody else had guns!

Answer to both questions: for warfare.

[Skepdick]

Answer to both questions: for warfare.

Not sure this answers anything.

There was warfare for thousands of years before guns. Why would we need to invent guns?