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Skepdick wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 10:38 am
Your difficulty in belief has zero bearing on the truthfulness of my words.
But you're beliefs you believe are true in you're own words, is not our truth here in the UK. Here, we do not adopt an archaic primitive way of enforcing law and order.


London's Metropolitan Police carried out some 3,300 deployments involving firearms in 2016. They didn't fire a single shot at a suspect.

They use Stun-guns and Tasers mostly.

The Metropolitan Police, which covers most of London, was founded in 1829 on the principle of "policing by consent" rather than by force.

Giving everyday police officers guns sends the wrong message to communities, so this thinking goes, and can actually cause more problems than it solves.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 11:51 am They didn't fire a single shot at a suspect.
What! :shock: Not even at the ones carrying pensils? :o
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Dontaskme wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 11:51 am But you're beliefs you believe are true in you're own words, is not our truth here in the UK. Here, we do not adopt an archaic primitive way of enforcing law and order.


London's Metropolitan Police carried out some 3,300 deployments involving firearms in 2016. They didn't fire a single shot at a suspect.

They use Stun-guns and Tasers mostly.

The Metropolitan Police, which covers most of London, was founded in 1829 on the principle of "policing by consent" rather than by force.

Giving everyday police officers guns sends the wrong message to communities, so this thinking goes, and can actually cause more problems than it solves.
Fucking wankers!

Why did they have to shoot Usman Khan then? He was just stabbing people.

https://news.sky.com/story/london-bridg ... s-12322289

I mean - it's not like it was the first time either. 2017 - same shit!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_London_Bridge_attack

Surely shooting mass-stabbers sends the wrong message to communities?!?
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Harbal wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 11:57 am
Dontaskme wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 11:51 am They didn't fire a single shot at a suspect.
What! :shock: Not even at the ones carrying pensils? :o
The ones carrying killer pencils could only call for a draw. :)

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Skepdick wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 12:06 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 11:51 am But you're beliefs you believe are true in you're own words, is not our truth here in the UK. Here, we do not adopt an archaic primitive way of enforcing law and order.


London's Metropolitan Police carried out some 3,300 deployments involving firearms in 2016. They didn't fire a single shot at a suspect.

They use Stun-guns and Tasers mostly.

The Metropolitan Police, which covers most of London, was founded in 1829 on the principle of "policing by consent" rather than by force.

Giving everyday police officers guns sends the wrong message to communities, so this thinking goes, and can actually cause more problems than it solves.
Fucking wankers!

Why did they have to shoot Usman Khan then? He was just stabbing people.

https://news.sky.com/story/london-bridg ... s-12322289

I mean - it's not like it was the first time either. 2017 - same shit!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_London_Bridge_attack

Surely shooting mass-stabbers sends the wrong message to communities?!?
You are missing the point. You need to check the blades haven't gone blunt on you're sharpener.

The UK does not tolerate Islamic Terrorists taking over their country. Anyone acting on behalf of such terror organizations who are out to cause trouble in someone else's country are seen as grossly disrepectful to the normal native law abiding citizens. They must be dealt with according to the severity of their aggression.

As for life in general, our police do not pose any threat or intimidating stance toward normal law abiding natives of the UK or any migrants including foreigners that already adhere to the British beliefs, ideas, customs, and social behaviour as a mark of mutual respect.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 12:57 pm You are missing the point. You need to check the blades haven't gone blunt on you're sharpener.

The UK does not tolerate Islamic Terrorists taking over their country. Anyone acting on behalf of such terror organizations who are out to cause trouble in someone else's country are seen as grossly disrepectful to the normal native law abiding citizens. They must be dealt with according to the severity of their aggression.

As for life in general, our police do not pose any threat or intimidating stance toward normal law abiding natives of the UK or any migrants including foreigners that already adhere to the British beliefs, ideas, customs, and social behaviour as a mark of mutual respect.
Right!

So in general you don't like shooting mass-stabbers, but if mass-stabbers are Islamic Terrorists then it's fine.
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Sculptor wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 9:57 am
commonsense wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 9:23 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 4:39 pm
Wars are unique with respect to their particular details, but from a larger perspective they are all the same. There’s meals that taste like canned dog food, heavy equipment to carry or wear, fatigue, inhospitable climate and terrain, boredom interrupted by sheer terror, separation from loved ones back home, going to sleep in fear of dying and coming to terms with the possibility of sudden death.
WIth respect, what about the sitting in front of a computer screen taking out targets with crones, type of war experience?
War never changes - excpet when it does.
Right. I overlooked this.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 7:22 am
Age wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 4:21 am
Wizard22 wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 12:04 pm If you breakdown US homicide rates by race;
Which is about one of the MOST STUPID, ILLOGICAL, ABSURD, STUPID, and NONSENSICAL 'things' one could do.
Wizard22 wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 12:04 pm it's clear who is doing the vast majority of killing.
IS IT?
Sort of. The victim and the purp are almost always of the same race.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... able-6.xls
Unlike sexes, where men are mostly murdered by men, and women are mostly murdered by men as well.
AND, HOW, EXACTLY, do 'you' SEPARATE the species 'human', INTO, supposed, DIFFERENT 'races'?
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Skepdick wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 12:59 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 12:57 pm You are missing the point. You need to check the blades haven't gone blunt on you're sharpener.

The UK does not tolerate Islamic Terrorists taking over their country. Anyone acting on behalf of such terror organizations who are out to cause trouble in someone else's country are seen as grossly disrepectful to the normal native law abiding citizens. They must be dealt with according to the severity of their aggression.

As for life in general, our police do not pose any threat or intimidating stance toward normal law abiding natives of the UK or any migrants including foreigners that already adhere to the British beliefs, ideas, customs, and social behaviour as a mark of mutual respect.
Right!

So in general you don't like shooting people who break the law, but if the law-breakers are Islamic Terrorists then it's fine.
You are still missing the point.

Terrorism is defined in United Kingdom law as the use or threat of action, both in and outside of the United Kingdom, designed to influence any international government organisation or to intimidate the public and for the purpose of advancing a political, religious, racial or ideological cause.
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Skepdick wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 11:18 am
Harbal wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 11:12 am
Skepdick wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 10:38 am
Perfect teaching moment on the futility of philosophy in the absence of trust then!

Your difficulty in belief has zero bearing on the truthfulness of my words.
But it has a lot of bearing on how seriously you are taken.
Oh no!

So you are saying that perception my truthfulness matters more than my actual truthfulness?

Color me surprised.
Yes, generally perception is taken for reality, by all perceivers.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 1:07 pm You are still missing the point.

Terrorism is defined in United Kingdom law as the use or threat of action, both in and outside of the United Kingdom, designed to influence any international government organisation or to intimidate the public and for the purpose of advancing a political, religious, racial or ideological cause.
Yes, I heard you the first time.

If mass-stabber is British - don't shoot.
If mass-stabber is Islamic - shoot.
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Wizard22 wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 8:05 am
Age wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 1:21 pmIf 'this' was directed to me, then I suggest you quote me so that I will be notified of your response.

but if 'it' is not, then not to worry. My suggestion here still stands though.
Yes, of course it was directed to you Age.
LOL I NEVER said it was NOT, and I was NOT ASKING you if 'it' WAS or WAS NOT.

AGAIN, If you want to direct ANY 'thing' to me, AND you REALLY WANT me to SEE 'it', then I suggest you quote me so that I WILL BE notified of 'that thing', that is; YOUR RESPONSE.

Did you COMPREHEND, and UNDERSTAND, 'this time'?
Wizard22 wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 8:05 am I'll ask again.

How is it a matter of "indoctrination" that people ought to defend themselves (against criminals with guns) rather than common-sense???
Now, BECAUSE what you WROTE, PREVIOUSLY, AND MY REPLY TO what you WROTE, was NOT QUOTED, there is NOTHING in 'this reply' for me to LOOK AT and SEE, NOR ANY ability to LINK BACK, so that I CAN LOOK BACK and SEE what you ACTUALLY WROTE and SAID, PREVIOUSLY.

I AM NOT just going to TAKE 'your words' here as what I WAS ACTUALLY MEANING NOR REFERRING TO, EXACTLY?

Do you COMPREHEND, and UNDERSTAND, 'this'?

SO, IF you PROVIDE the link BACK TO what you ACTUALLY SAID and WROTE, AND to what I ACTUALLY SAID and WROTE, THEN, and ONLY THEN will I ANSWER this QUESTION here of YOURS.
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Skepdick wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 1:12 pm
Yes, I heard you the first time.

If mass-stabber is British - don't shoot.
If mass-stabber is Islamic - shoot.
You are still missing the point. You are not the sharpest pencil in the box.

Here in Britian no individual is targeted by police because of their culture, faith, race or religion.

Terrorism is dealt with in the same way if Putins nukes were lobbed at us.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 10:53 am he's in it for the conflict and nothing else, it's a personality disorder.
Absolute bullshit.

I do distributed systems, you retard - the entire field revolves around distributed consensus. As in the exact opposite of conflict.

I am just here to pour fuel on the dumpster fire that is Philosophy - so it burns down brighter and quicker.
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Skepdick wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 12:59 pm

So in general you don't like shooting mass-stabbers, but if mass-stabbers are Islamic Terrorists then it's fine.
It depends on whether the mass they are stabbing is human or not.
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