Sodom and Gamorrah in 2023

[Wizard22]

I'm just asking how it works? You say you received Revelation, I want to know what that is like. Why suddenly so secretive?

It's pretty awesome, I'll tell you that much.

[FlashDangerpants]

Did you just describe yourself as .... God's Chosen?

...did YOU?

No.

So what does it feel like to receive Revelation direct from God? Did you just have the idea and then you felt all tingly because God was tickling your taint to congratulate you, or was there a big voice in the sky?

[seeds]

I disagree.

Come on now, Wiz, I'm just trying to help you escape from the cult of an obvious anti-Christ (Trump).

Trump did not push and promote transexuality and homosexuality in Western militaries...

I never said he did.

No, I provided you with a quote that said that according to later Hebrew prophets, the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah (for which S & G were purposely destroyed by God) were adultery, pridefulness, and uncharitableness, and that Trump (your dear leader) is the poster boy for all three of those sins, not to mention several others.

I mean, how does Trump fare in terms of the "Seven Deadly Sins"?

Let's see...

• 1. Pride (The Hebrew prophets already covered that one, something of which Trump exudes in great profusion, like some kind of foul body odor.)
  
  2. Greed (Are you kidding?)
  
  3. Lust (Again, are you kidding? - the grab 'em by the "P" guy?)
  
  4. Envy (Clearly, he strongly envies the power wielded by his favorite dictators (Kim and Vladimir), along with anyone who has a buck (quid) more in the bank than him.)
  
  5. Gluttony (Have you seen his enormous rump?)
  
  6. Wrath (A large portion of his M.O. consists of verbal and, especially, litigious wrath against innumerable people he has attempted to destroy over the years.)
  
  7. Sloth (Well, he's definitely not slothful when it comes to committing all of the sins listed above.)

So there you have it, the only sin he is absolved of is the sin of slothfulness, and that's only because he's extremely busy working at all of the other sins.

As I have pointed out several times before, Trump is the perfect person to represent the contemporary American ethos as we rapidly approach our destiny of becoming "Sodom and Gomorrah 2.0".

Now I realize that you are miffed about me making such a big deal about Trump in this thread while you, on the other hand, wanted it to be all about some strange theory involving transexuals and Ukraine.

However,...

(and seeing how I have nothing better to do at the moment )

...I'm simply not going to allow you to ignore the fact that you and the "Conservative Right" have chosen to ally yourselves with a loathsome creature who, for all practical interpretations of the situation, epitomizes the very spirit for which Sodom and Gomorrah were allegedly destroyed.

Don't make me haul out that old "mote and beam" axiom again.
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[Wizard22]

I never said he did.

No, I provided you with a quote that said that according to later Hebrew prophets, the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah (for which S & G were purposely destroyed by God) were adultery, pridefulness, and uncharitableness, and that Trump (your dear leader) is the poster boy for all three of those sins, not to mention several others.

I mean, how does Trump fare in terms of the "Seven Deadly Sins"?

Let's see...

• 1. Pride (The Hebrew prophets already covered that one, something of which Trump exudes in great profusion, like some kind of foul body odor.)
  
  2. Greed (Are you kidding?)
  
  3. Lust (Again, are you kidding? - the grab 'em by the "P" guy?)
  
  4. Envy (Clearly, he strongly envies the power wielded by his favorite dictators (Kim and Vladimir), along with anyone who has a buck (quid) more in the bank than him.)
  
  5. Gluttony (Have you seen his enormous rump?)
  
  6. Wrath (A large portion of his M.O. consists of verbal and, especially, litigious wrath against innumerable people he has attempted to destroy over the years.)
  
  7. Sloth (Well, he's definitely not slothful when it comes to committing all of the sins listed above.)

So there you have it, the only sin he is absolved of is the sin of slothfulness, and that's only because he's extremely busy working at all of the other sins.

As I have pointed out several times before, Trump is the perfect person to represent the contemporary American ethos as we rapidly approach our destiny of becoming "Sodom and Gomorrah 2.0".

Now I realize that you are miffed about me making such a big deal about Trump in this thread while you, on the other hand, wanted it to be all about some strange theory involving transexuals and Ukraine.

However,...

(and seeing how I have nothing better to do at the moment )

...I'm simply not going to allow you to ignore the fact that you and the "Conservative Right" have chosen to ally yourselves with a loathsome creature who, for all practical interpretations of the situation, epitomizes the very spirit for which Sodom and Gomorrah were allegedly destroyed.

Don't make me haul out that old "mote and beam" axiom again.
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I think you are misrepresenting the Tale.

The Tale, according to my interpretation, is God's Wrath directed to a slovenly city/nation, that explicitly forbids and warns of the proliferation of homo/transexuality/promiscuity. Trump has literally nothing to do with homosexuality and transexuality. So I believe you might be putting some of your own, personal bias, and personal grudge against him as Representative of American/Western people?

The point of the matter...is how Gay Pride Parades, homo/transexuality in the Western military, promoted and backed by the WEF, George Soros, most of the Internationalists...are the source and cause of all this. They write the media. They indoctrinate the masses. They own the majority of movies, television, cultural transmissions. All one needs to do, is compare 2023 to 1990, and you take my point.

Try to consider this Revelation without adding Trump into it?

[FlashDangerpants]

Try to consider this Revelation

You aren't a prophet, so it's not a Revelation.

[Wizard22]

You aren't a prophet, so it's not a Revelation.

The problem with being 'Chosen' is that you depend on somebody else's approval. Consider that, going forward.

[Harbal]

I admit to an aversion of anything biblical, but even putting that aside, I am completely baffled by the supposed connection between the war in Ukraine, and the story of Sodom and Gamorrah.

[Wizard22]

I admit to an aversion of anything biblical, but even putting that aside, I am completely baffled by the supposed connection between the war in Ukraine, and the story of Sodom and Gamorrah.

The images linked in my mind the Tale, and then I considered how decadent and hedonistic the West has become, put two and two together.

Four was the result.

[Wizard22]

Since you don't seem like much of a Christian or Jew...must be an Anglican heretic I take it?

Let me explain Sodom and Gamorrah.

The lesson of the story is that when a city/society/state becomes far too corrupt with sexual debauchery, it incurs God's Wrath. Now, you can disbelieve all you want. You are an Anglican-Protestant after all. These things are foreign to you. But to those with a more 'Ancient' predilection, the story at least has moral value. It teaches that—if a country becomes too slovenly, then calamity and disaster befall it.

These images reminded me of that, hence why I posted them, to see if anybody has seen the same. It seems not...not many have 'eyes' for it I guess.


To me, this level of moral corruption in the West, is too obvious. But...who knows what kind of BBC and propaganda news you consume? My guess is, you're far, far out of the loop.

[Harbal]

I admit to an aversion of anything biblical, but even putting that aside, I am completely baffled by the supposed connection between the war in Ukraine, and the story of Sodom and Gamorrah.

The images linked in my mind the Tale, and then I considered how decadent and hedonistic the West has become, put two and two together.

Four was the result.

What makes the conflict in Ukraine different to all others that regularly take place around the world?

[Wizard22]

What makes the conflict in Ukraine different to all others that regularly take place around the world?

I don't remember homosexuals and transexuals being "out and proud" in Vietnam...or the Korean War...do you?

I presume you're 60+ years old. You'd know more about that by personal experience than me.

[FlashDangerpants]

You aren't a prophet, so it's not a Revelation.

The problem with being 'Chosen' is that you depend on somebody else's approval. Consider that, going forward.

So how did you find out you were 'Chosen'?
Big voice in the sky? Some sort of heavenly choir?

[Harbal]

Since you don't seem like much of a Christian or Jew...must be an Anglican heretic I take it?

Who are you addressing this to?

These images reminded me of that, hence why I posted them, to see if anybody has seen the same. It seems not...not many have 'eyes' for it I guess.

Or, to put it another way, everyone apart from you is wrong.

To me, this level of moral corruption in the West, is too obvious. But...who knows what kind of BBC and propaganda news you consume? My guess is, you're far, far out of the loop.

So you consider yourself a more reliable source of accurate, impartial news than the BBC, do you?

[Iwannaplato]

I admit to an aversion of anything biblical, but even putting that aside, I am completely baffled by the supposed connection between the war in Ukraine, and the story of Sodom and Gamorrah.

Let me help. I think you are confounded by both logic and experience. Set these aside.
Putin hates gays and transpeople and they are less accepted in Russia than in the Ukraine.
Hence Putin is God, planes and missiles are angels and collateral damage is like the less than 50 good people faced in S & G.

Why God is attacking the Ukraine, where there gay and trans people face a lot of violence and problems and not raining down wrath on San Francisco, say, is one of those God moves in mysterious ways things.

Why God would need to kill children and straight people in the Ukraine is also one of those God moves in mysterious ways things.

Why so many straight young Russian males must die to kill some gay people in the Ukraine along with a lot of straight people and children in the Ukraine is not a valid question. No prophet would ask that.

You would think, clutching naively onto reason and logic as you are, Harbal, that if God wanted to rain vengeance down on sexual sinners, he or she would begin hitting things like people pimping out children to pedophiles in Thailand or, really, anywhere pedophile tourism is chugging along well.

But that's because you are not a prophet. You can't see behind the incredibly sloppy for a deity program of eternal justic in the war in the Ukraine.

But someone like Wizard, from the Religious Right in the US...he would immediately understand how an ex- KGB agent by definition must be a dear friend to all things American, capitalist, Christian and democratic.

[Harbal]

What makes the conflict in Ukraine different to all others that regularly take place around the world?

I don't remember homosexuals and transexuals being "out and proud" in Vietnam...or the Korean War...do you?

I presume you're 60+ years old. You'd know more about that by personal experience than me.

They are "out and proud" everywhere these days, not just Ukraine.

Did Putin say that's why he was invading Ukraine, and that he was acting on behalf of God?