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Skepdick wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:05 pm
attofishpi wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:05 pm
Skepdick wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:04 pm
Because in a civilised society I am innocent until proven guilty.
AGAIN. Why do you think EVERYONE owning guns is sensible?
Why do you think EVERYONE owning guns is not sensible?
Answer the fucking question.
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attofishpi wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:06 pm
Skepdick wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:05 pm
attofishpi wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:05 pm

AGAIN. Why do you think EVERYONE owning guns is sensible?
Why do you think EVERYONE owning guns is not sensible?
Answer the fucking question.
No. Fuck you.

Make me answer it.
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Skepdick wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 11:53 am
Harbal wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 11:13 am Maybe I'm unable to see the big picture because I've never been in a situation where having a gun would have been remotely useful, and nor do I personally know anyone else who has. My attitude has probably also been conditioned by living in a country whose citizens are certainly not allowed to own guns for personal protection, and I have to say that I hope it forever remains so.
Then you don't understand the history of guns and why people invented them in the first place.

It lowers the barrier to entry for people who are otherwise incapable of violence.

A world a 20 year old can overpower a 60 year old with their bare hands is not fair on 60 year olds.
Harbal wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 11:13 am How often has your wife had to defend herself with a gun, against rape?
Mine? Never. Hopefully it stays that way.

How do you empower your women to defend themselves against physically stronger men?
Point of information: guns were designed and invented as an improvement over bows and arrows in warfare, as to permit combat at some distance from one’s enemy.
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Skepdick wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:06 pm
attofishpi wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:06 pm
Skepdick wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:05 pm
Why do you think EVERYONE owning guns is not sensible?
Answer the fucking question.
No. Fuck you.
You can't answer it because you know it is irrational, not at all sensible to allow EVERYONE to own guns, so Y the fuck should you get to own one..ya just another borderline wackjob about to crak. :P
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Skepdick wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 1:36 pm
Sure.

If I live in a civilised society I don't care who owns guns, nor do I think adding guns to an already civilised society will somehow turn people into violent murderous idiots.

And if I live in an uncivilised society then I need a gun anyway.

Either way there's no arugment against them.
Okay, but I think that attitude explains why your country is in the state it is. You don't seem to have moved on from the Wild West in some respects.

Shoot a rapist for me, or at least someone who looks like he might be a rapist. 👍
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commonsense wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:08 pm Point of information: guns were designed and invented as an improvement over bows and arrows in warfare, as to permit combat at some distance from one’s enemy.
Such a sensible thing!

Distance == time.
Time == options.
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Harbal wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:09 pm Okay, but I think that attitude explains why your country is in the state it is. You don't seem to have moved on from the Wild West in some respects.
And you think that's the guns' fault? Heh!

Only if the fix was that easy.
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Skepdick wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:02 pm
What function/purpose does registration/licensing serve?

What function does a 'person' serve this planet? why don't you just tackle that problem first?

What's the point of talking about the function and purpose of lethal weapons?

Why don't you talk about things that are more important like forcing people to own a mature responsible trusted registered licence before they are deemed fit to bring another person into existence?
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attofishpi wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:09 pm You can't answer it because you know it is irrational, not at all sensible to allow EVERYONE to own guns, so Y the fuck should you get to own one..ya just another borderline wackjob about to crak. :P
I can answer. I don't want to.

That's how rights work.
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Skepdick wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:06 pm
attofishpi wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:06 pm
Skepdick wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:05 pm
Why do you think EVERYONE owning guns is not sensible?
Answer the fucking question.
No. Fuck you.

Make me answer it.
You can't answer it because you know it is irrational, not at all sensible to allow EVERYONE to own guns, so Y the fuck should you get to own one..ya just another borderline wackjob about to crak. :P
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Skepdick wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:14 pm
attofishpi wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:09 pm You can't answer it because you know it is irrational, not at all sensible to allow EVERYONE to own guns, so Y the fuck should you get to own one..ya just another borderline wackjob about to crak. :P
I can answer. I don't want to.

That's how rights work.
So anyone has the right to kill anyone and rape anyone (so long as someone that has a gun doesn't impede them)?
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Skepdick wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:10 pm
Harbal wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:09 pm Okay, but I think that attitude explains why your country is in the state it is. You don't seem to have moved on from the Wild West in some respects.
And you think that's the guns' fault? Heh!

Only if the fix was that easy.
Yes it is the gun fault, because all the mass shootings have involved guns, not lollipops.

Everyday here in England we are hearing nearly everday now about how there is one mass shooting after another in the US.

It's not happening anywhere else in the world, only in the US

What the heck is wrong with the US, the people are really losing their minds there.
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attofishpi wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:15 pm You can't answer it because you know it is irrational, not at all sensible to allow EVERYONE to own guns, so Y the fuck should you get to own one..ya just another borderline wackjob about to crak. :P
And now you are lying about my reasons.

Why shouldn't I own one? The default position is that I am innocent until proven guilty; and that everything which is not forbidden is allowed.
attofishpi wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:05 pm Why do you think EVERYONE owning guns is not sensible?

Are you a misanthrope or something?
It's on the people forbidding things to justify their laws...
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attofishpi wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:16 pm
Skepdick wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:14 pm
attofishpi wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:09 pm You can't answer it because you know it is irrational, not at all sensible to allow EVERYONE to own guns, so Y the fuck should you get to own one..ya just another borderline wackjob about to crak. :P
I can answer. I don't want to.

That's how rights work.
So anyone has the right to kill anyone and rape anyone (so long as someone that has a gun doesn't impede them)?
So you don't understand how rights work.
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Skepdick wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:10 pm
Harbal wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:09 pm Okay, but I think that attitude explains why your country is in the state it is. You don't seem to have moved on from the Wild West in some respects.
And you think that's the guns' fault? Heh!
No, I think it's your fault, and your national gun passion. How can you accept that you need a gun to feel safe?
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