Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:23 pm
phyllo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:47 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:05 am
WHY are 'you', adult human beings, SO FIXATED ON two of the MOST UNNECESSARY 'things' IN Life - 'jobs' AND 'money'?
Why are YOU unaware that human society is almost entirely structured around money and jobs?
I'm assuming that it's because he (Age) is not an "adult" human being and he has been harmed by what at least some adults say and do in the name of "jobs" and "money".
ASSUME ALL you WANT, but I suggest that you SEEK OUT and GAIN CLARITY FIRST, BEFORE you ASSUME absolutely ANY 'thing', that way you will NEVER BE Wrong, like you ARE here.
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:23 pm
Not everyone is struggling to survive and therefore needs a job and money to survive. Not everyone is struggling to live a life that is meaningful to them and therefore want a meaningful job,
AND some aren't struggling or else seeking meaningful employment at all and truly want a "job" and/or "money" so badly that they would do evil in order to get paid for it. That is commonly known as "banal evil".
"Banal evil" is evil done without knowing that one is doing evil.
But what even IS the AGREED UPON and ACCEPTED definition of 'evil', itself?
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:23 pm
It was the defense of Eric Eichman who (apparently) was very good at his job during the Nazi German episode at ensuring that the trains carrying Jews to the death camps were running efficiently. Eichman claimed at his trial that he was only doing his job. The prosecution insisted that "just doing one's job" is not a legitimate excuse for doing evil. That raises extremely difficult and complex results for society at large. The Israeli court chose to condemn Eichman as "guilty" on all accounts and sentenced him to death.
Is sentencing people to DEATH, and the KILLING of 'them', just ANOTHER part of "other's'" jobs?
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:23 pm
No one knows for sure if Eichmann was truly "evil" or not. We can assume that he knowingly did evil irrespective of what his conscience may have told him (if he was truly aware of the overall nature of what he was running the train schedule for). If Eichman was not aware of what he was doing and why and yet "evil" for doing it, then that places the burden on every human being to know what and why s/he is doing what s/he is doing. There is no such thing as "ignorance" or not knowing that what one is doing is evil.
BUT, considering the Fact that 'you', adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, can NOT even DECIDE, and EXPRESS CLEARLY, what IS Right, what IS Wrong, AND what IS 'evil', in Life, then KNOWING one is doing EITHER seems like a VERY BIG ASK.
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:23 pm
If the latter case is true then we must condemn the ignorant to death for being ignorant if they did "evil" while they did (or said) what they did.
Is 'condemning the so-called "ignorant'', to death, for 'being ignorant' and 'evil' 'thing' to do, or NOT?
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:23 pm
OR we can try to warn others if they are unknowingly doing evil (and we know for sure ourselves that they are doing "evil"), HOWEVER, not everyone who is warned will listen and many are outright hostile when others tell them they are doing evil.
EXACTLY like HOW 'you', adult human beings, are Truly 'IGNORANT' of the 'evil', or Wrong, that 'you' ARE ALL DOING, and ARE NOT LISTENING TO NOR SEEING THE WARNING SIGNS, and 'you' BECOME HOSTILE when TOLD and SHOWN the Wrong that 'you' ARE ALL ACTUALLY DOING. As can be CLEARLY SEEN and PROVED True throughout these writings here, in this forum.
ANYWAY, and by the way, I ALREADY KNEW that the society, which you live in, is structured around 'money' AND 'jobs'. I ALSO KNEW WHY that society was in such THE MESS that is was in, and thus WHY 'it' WAS Truly SICK and ILL.