If you are NOT going to ANSWER my QUESTIONS, then do you really EXPECT me to ANSWER your QUESTIONS?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:17 amAge. I can't stop the war in Ukraine all by myself. Believe me, I'd love to. However, if you don't want to stop the war in Ukraine, then "we" slowly erodes into just "me". I"m not God. Are you God?Age wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:10 amWas the one who SAW/UNDERSTOOD that the earth is NOT flat, before "others", a so-called 'special one'?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:49 pm
If you've seen God, then you are quite the special one.
If yes, then WHY?
But if no, then WHY NOT?
Was the one who SAW/UNDERSTOOD that the sun does NOT circle the earth, before "others", a so-called 'special one'?
If yes, then WHY?
But if no, then WHY NOT?
Was the one who SAW/UNDERSTOOD that Universe NEVER began and is NOT expanding, before "others", a so-called 'special one'?
If yes, then WHY?
But if no, then WHY NOT?
Now, if your answer is the same in those three examples, then if it would NOT be the same answer that would apply to ANY one who just SAW/UNDERSTOOD 'God', before "others", then WHY, or WHY NOT?
Could it be the case that God IS, and HAS BEEN, PRE-SENTING Itself to you ALL THE TIME but you just became CLOSED to SEEING 'this' God?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:49 pmI have not. When God presents God's self to me, then I will admit that I have seen God. God made all that is. Therefore God ought to be available to ALL THAT IS.
And could it even be the case that you became CLOSED OFF due to NO ACTUAL.FAULT of your own?WHY is what is happening here ALWAYS God's FAULT, to you?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:49 pm If God is not available to all that is, then I don't want to see God. There is nothing special to me about a God who only presents himself (herself/itself, whatever) to some but not others.Are you suggesting here that 'you', as an adult human being, NEVER do ANY wrong AT ALL and thus are perfect?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:49 pm I don't need such a God for anything at the moment. If there is no God then what I have done will have been to just bounce around aimlessly from one experience to the other. If there is a God, then what I have done and what I will do is the right thing to do.
If no, then what are you suggesting here?
But is yes, then REALLY?WOW that is quite the PRESUMPTION.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:49 pm I can only do what I am able to do at this point. If it's the will of God that I should do that, then I will do it. If it is not the will of God that I should do that, then I'm bending to the will of something that is malicious to me and simply wants to destroy me.Are you ABSOLUTELY SURE that there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING you do that is destroying, harming, nor damaging "others"?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:49 pm If something malicious wants to destroy me, then there's nothing I can do about that, except stand here and be destroyed. I will not destroy anything to the best of my ability. I wish to preserve.Who does the 'we' word here refer to, EXACTLY?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:49 pm WE MUST END THE WAR IN UKRAINE AND BRING ABOUT PEACE AND COOPERATION AMONG HUMANS IF WE ARE TO PRESERVE LIFE ON EARTH.
What does God look like?
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Fair enough. I don't have answers to your questions. I can't even understand half of what you're posting with all the caps and everything else. Don't answer my question. to be honest, I don't think you can. I put my faith in the one true God, the God for all! If there is no God, then we all better start doing what we can really quickly to appease Putin or whoever is running the show in Russia right now. I can only go off what I see in the news and I have no idea anymore what is a trustworthy source.Age wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:07 amIf you are NOT going to ANSWER my QUESTIONS, then do you really EXPECT me to ANSWER your QUESTIONS?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:17 amAge. I can't stop the war in Ukraine all by myself. Believe me, I'd love to. However, if you don't want to stop the war in Ukraine, then "we" slowly erodes into just "me". I"m not God. Are you God?Age wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:10 am
Was the one who SAW/UNDERSTOOD that the earth is NOT flat, before "others", a so-called 'special one'?
If yes, then WHY?
But if no, then WHY NOT?
Was the one who SAW/UNDERSTOOD that the sun does NOT circle the earth, before "others", a so-called 'special one'?
If yes, then WHY?
But if no, then WHY NOT?
Was the one who SAW/UNDERSTOOD that Universe NEVER began and is NOT expanding, before "others", a so-called 'special one'?
If yes, then WHY?
But if no, then WHY NOT?
Now, if your answer is the same in those three examples, then if it would NOT be the same answer that would apply to ANY one who just SAW/UNDERSTOOD 'God', before "others", then WHY, or WHY NOT?
Could it be the case that God IS, and HAS BEEN, PRE-SENTING Itself to you ALL THE TIME but you just became CLOSED to SEEING 'this' God?
And could it even be the case that you became CLOSED OFF due to NO ACTUAL.FAULT of your own?
WHY is what is happening here ALWAYS God's FAULT, to you?
Are you suggesting here that 'you', as an adult human being, NEVER do ANY wrong AT ALL and thus are perfect?
If no, then what are you suggesting here?
But is yes, then REALLY?
WOW that is quite the PRESUMPTION.
Are you ABSOLUTELY SURE that there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING you do that is destroying, harming, nor damaging "others"?
Who does the 'we' word here refer to, EXACTLY?
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What IS, 'fair enough'?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:16 amFair enough.Age wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:07 amIf you are NOT going to ANSWER my QUESTIONS, then do you really EXPECT me to ANSWER your QUESTIONS?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:17 am
Age. I can't stop the war in Ukraine all by myself. Believe me, I'd love to. However, if you don't want to stop the war in Ukraine, then "we" slowly erodes into just "me". I"m not God. Are you God?
We are, ONCE AGAIN, WAITING, PATIENTLY, for you to just ANSWER another CLARIFYING QUESTION here.
HOW could one, supposedly, NOT have ANSWERS to the ACTUAL QUESTIONS, which I have posed and ASKED here?
There are NO QUESTIONS that I recall of, which could NOT have ANSWERS TO.
What, EXACTLY. is the 'everything else' here, which, supposedly, CAUSES you to NOT BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND me here?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:16 am I can't even understand half of what you're posting with all the caps and everything else.
And, WHY do capital letters CONFUSE you SO MUCH, SO SIMPLY, and SO EASILY?
LOL OKAY.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:16 am Don't answer my question. to be honest, I don't think you can.
And here we have A GREAT EXAMPLE of BELIEF and CONFIRMATION BIAS AT WORK, and AT PLAY, ONCE AGAIN.
you also appear to have NO idea about the actual thinking, which is occurring within that body, anymore.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:16 am I put my faith in the one true God, the God for all! If there is no God, then we all better start doing what we can really quickly to appease Putin or whoever is running the show in Russia right now. I can only go off what I see in the news and I have no idea anymore what is a trustworthy source.
1. you, supposedly, put ALL of your faith in THE One True God, but which to you may not even exist, anyway.
2. WHY only if there is NO God 'should' 'we', whoever 'we' is here, then start appeasing some human being known as and called "putin" here, or some "other" human being who is 'running the show' in that country known as 'russia', right now?
3. Do you find it very helpful to put obtain ALL of your knowledge ON what you see on some news broadcast, in just one TINY country or place, on earth, and which you have absolutely NO idea is even a 'trustworthy source' of 'news', anymore?
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Age, I have no idea who you are but I think I know what is going on and it's scary. It's beyond scary. It's terrifying.Age wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:09 amWhat IS, 'fair enough'?
We are, ONCE AGAIN, WAITING, PATIENTLY, for you to just ANSWER another CLARIFYING QUESTION here.
HOW could one, supposedly, NOT have ANSWERS to the ACTUAL QUESTIONS, which I have posed and ASKED here?
There are NO QUESTIONS that I recall of, which could NOT have ANSWERS TO.What, EXACTLY. is the 'everything else' here, which, supposedly, CAUSES you to NOT BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND me here?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:16 am I can't even understand half of what you're posting with all the caps and everything else.
And, WHY do capital letters CONFUSE you SO MUCH, SO SIMPLY, and SO EASILY?LOL OKAY.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:16 am Don't answer my question. to be honest, I don't think you can.
And here we have A GREAT EXAMPLE of BELIEF and CONFIRMATION BIAS AT WORK, and AT PLAY, ONCE AGAIN.you also appear to have NO idea about the actual thinking, which is occurring within that body, anymore.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:16 am I put my faith in the one true God, the God for all! If there is no God, then we all better start doing what we can really quickly to appease Putin or whoever is running the show in Russia right now. I can only go off what I see in the news and I have no idea anymore what is a trustworthy source.
1. you, supposedly, put ALL of your faith in THE One True God, but which to you may not even exist, anyway.
2. WHY only if there is NO God 'should' 'we', whoever 'we' is here, then start appeasing some human being known as and called "putin" here, or some "other" human being who is 'running the show' in that country known as 'russia', right now?
3. Do you find it very helpful to put obtain ALL of your knowledge ON what you see on some news broadcast, in just one TINY country or place, on earth, and which you have absolutely NO idea is even a 'trustworthy source' of 'news', anymore?
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you 'think' you KNOW what is 'going on' in relation to 'what', EXACTLY?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:45 amAge, I have no idea who you are but I think I know what is going on and it's scary. It's beyond scary. It's terrifying.Age wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:09 amWhat IS, 'fair enough'?
We are, ONCE AGAIN, WAITING, PATIENTLY, for you to just ANSWER another CLARIFYING QUESTION here.
HOW could one, supposedly, NOT have ANSWERS to the ACTUAL QUESTIONS, which I have posed and ASKED here?
There are NO QUESTIONS that I recall of, which could NOT have ANSWERS TO.What, EXACTLY. is the 'everything else' here, which, supposedly, CAUSES you to NOT BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND me here?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:16 am I can't even understand half of what you're posting with all the caps and everything else.
And, WHY do capital letters CONFUSE you SO MUCH, SO SIMPLY, and SO EASILY?LOL OKAY.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:16 am Don't answer my question. to be honest, I don't think you can.
And here we have A GREAT EXAMPLE of BELIEF and CONFIRMATION BIAS AT WORK, and AT PLAY, ONCE AGAIN.you also appear to have NO idea about the actual thinking, which is occurring within that body, anymore.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:16 am I put my faith in the one true God, the God for all! If there is no God, then we all better start doing what we can really quickly to appease Putin or whoever is running the show in Russia right now. I can only go off what I see in the news and I have no idea anymore what is a trustworthy source.
1. you, supposedly, put ALL of your faith in THE One True God, but which to you may not even exist, anyway.
2. WHY only if there is NO God 'should' 'we', whoever 'we' is here, then start appeasing some human being known as and called "putin" here, or some "other" human being who is 'running the show' in that country known as 'russia', right now?
3. Do you find it very helpful to put obtain ALL of your knowledge ON what you see on some news broadcast, in just one TINY country or place, on earth, and which you have absolutely NO idea is even a 'trustworthy source' of 'news', anymore?
And, HOW and WHY is 'it', (whatever 'it' is), supposedly, 'scary', 'beyond scary', and 'terrifying'?
Re: What does God look like?
But I wasn't doing anything of the sort, you have assumed wrongly. But isn't that what people do when discussing anything spiritual, they make knee jerk assumptions thinking they know what the other person is thinking, but just to clarify, I was not really saying what you think I was saying at all.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:25 pmDontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:08 amOh well, words are crap, but hey, divine crap.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:47 am
I like your spirit and some of your views buddy, but your loose language, not so much.
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Divine is a quality that cannot be self assigned or taken as you seem to be doing.
Again, piss poor language on your part.
The word 'Divine' is a human concept. It can be used in a sentence as a form of human expression. Example: This cheese pizza tastes divine.
I used the word 'divine' to decribe how our words are inadequate when attempting to describe the awe filled wonder that is human experience that comes with the sensation of being an alive sentient creature. Sometimes it's awe-full and other times it's awful.
Humans have also attached the word ''divine'' to a God like entity where everything seems to emanate from, in that case, words are definitely crap, as the word ''God'' is just another man-made concept, which does not exist out-there in the real world beyond concepts.
But you don't need me to explain all this to you do you, however, if you are going to take my words out of context, then I will happily explain what you are doing, and doing badly. Considering how piss poor language can be sometimes, yeah, you are right about that for sure.
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Where the heck did you get the idea that I think light has eyes to see and a mind to process what it sees, except from your own self?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:34 pm
???
You think light has eyes to see and a mind to process what it sees?
I cannot agree.
Why do you think something that only you have thought in your own head there, not mine...is what I was thinking, when it wasn't at all ?????
I said, the seer cannot be seen. I said light is untouchable, unapproachable.
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Just out of curiosity, although the word 'tree' is just another human-made up concept, to you, do 'trees', for example, exist 'out-there' in the 'real world', beyond concepts?Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:43 amBut I wasn't doing anything of the sort, you have assumed wrongly. But isn't that what people do when discussing anything spiritual, they make knee jerk assumptions thinking they know what the other person is thinking, but just to clarify, I was not really saying what you think I was saying at all.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:25 pm
Divine is a quality that cannot be self assigned or taken as you seem to be doing.
Again, piss poor language on your part.
The word 'Divine' is a human concept. It can be used in a sentence as a form of human expression. Example: This cheese pizza tastes divine.
I used the word 'divine' to decribe how our words are inadequate when attempting to describe the awe filled wonder that is human experience that comes with the sensation of being an alive sentient creature. Sometimes it's awe-full and other times it's awful.
Humans have also attached the word ''divine'' to a God like entity where everything seems to emanate from, in that case, words are definitely crap, as the word ''God'' is just another man-made concept, which does not exist out-there in the real world beyond concepts.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:43 am But you don't need me to explain all this to you do you, however, if you are going to take my words out of context, then I will happily explain what you are doing, and doing badly. Considering how piss poor language can be sometimes, yeah, you are right about that for sure.
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Life can be scary, because it is known that sentience is a real live feeling/sensation phenomena. But only when we think about these scary things. For example: the thought of being eaten alive by a big grisly bear or a lion is a horror to think about. But until these things are actually literally happening to you, there is no point in being scared or terrified. When the mind is soley focused on what is thought to be scary and terrifying, that is going to perpetuate the feeling of terror until it blows up out of all proportion, if allowed to run rampant and viral infecting your entire mind with negativity.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:45 am Age, I have no idea who you are but I think I know what is going on and it's scary. It's beyond scary. It's terrifying.
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There is no tree out there in the real world. There is what is known as a tree in this conception, that comes from the imagination spawned from what is known conceptually as a mind.Age wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 8:42 amJust out of curiosity, although the word 'tree' is just another human-made up concept, to you, do 'trees', for example, exist 'out-there' in the 'real world', beyond concepts?Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:43 amBut I wasn't doing anything of the sort, you have assumed wrongly. But isn't that what people do when discussing anything spiritual, they make knee jerk assumptions thinking they know what the other person is thinking, but just to clarify, I was not really saying what you think I was saying at all.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:25 pm
Divine is a quality that cannot be self assigned or taken as you seem to be doing.
Again, piss poor language on your part.
The word 'Divine' is a human concept. It can be used in a sentence as a form of human expression. Example: This cheese pizza tastes divine.
I used the word 'divine' to decribe how our words are inadequate when attempting to describe the awe filled wonder that is human experience that comes with the sensation of being an alive sentient creature. Sometimes it's awe-full and other times it's awful.
Humans have also attached the word ''divine'' to a God like entity where everything seems to emanate from, in that case, words are definitely crap, as the word ''God'' is just another man-made concept, which does not exist out-there in the real world beyond concepts.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:43 am But you don't need me to explain all this to you do you, however, if you are going to take my words out of context, then I will happily explain what you are doing, and doing badly. Considering how piss poor language can be sometimes, yeah, you are right about that for sure.
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Okay, thank you for CLARIFYING and CLEARING UP the WAY you LOOK, and SEE, here.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 11:03 amThere is no tree out there in the real world. There is what is known as a tree in this conception, that comes from the imagination spawned from what is known conceptually as a mind.Age wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 8:42 amJust out of curiosity, although the word 'tree' is just another human-made up concept, to you, do 'trees', for example, exist 'out-there' in the 'real world', beyond concepts?Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:43 am
But I wasn't doing anything of the sort, you have assumed wrongly. But isn't that what people do when discussing anything spiritual, they make knee jerk assumptions thinking they know what the other person is thinking, but just to clarify, I was not really saying what you think I was saying at all.
The word 'Divine' is a human concept. It can be used in a sentence as a form of human expression. Example: This cheese pizza tastes divine.
I used the word 'divine' to decribe how our words are inadequate when attempting to describe the awe filled wonder that is human experience that comes with the sensation of being an alive sentient creature. Sometimes it's awe-full and other times it's awful.
Humans have also attached the word ''divine'' to a God like entity where everything seems to emanate from, in that case, words are definitely crap, as the word ''God'' is just another man-made concept, which does not exist out-there in the real world beyond concepts.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:43 am But you don't need me to explain all this to you do you, however, if you are going to take my words out of context, then I will happily explain what you are doing, and doing badly. Considering how piss poor language can be sometimes, yeah, you are right about that for sure.
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You are welcome.Age wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:15 pmOkay, thank you for CLARIFYING and CLEARING UP the WAY you LOOK, and SEE, here.
In my logic, there is no object named thing, outside of language itself. This is just so obvious. Language being a conceptual overlay upon silence and nothingness.
Without language, the use of concepts, there is / was no story. And the mind is nothing without this conceptual frame of reference, which is empty to the core, since words are basically just sound. So in a nutshell, silence sounds.
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When you say, there is NO 'object named thing', outside of language itself, were you under some sort of illusion that 'names' could even exist WITHOUT 'language', itself? OF COURSE, and OBVIOUSLY, 'names' ONLY EXIST WITH language, itself.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:34 pmYou are welcome.
In my logic, there is no object named thing, outside of language itself. This is just so obvious. Language being a conceptual overlay upon silence and nothingness.
And,
When you say, language being a conceptual overlay upon silence and nothingness, are you under some sort of illusion that there is ABSOLUTELY NO 'thing' ABSOLUTELY ANYWHERE, that is; UNTIL language, itself, came into Existence?
If no, then will you EXPLAIN what you ACTUALLY MEAN and/or ARE REFERRING TO here, EXACTLY?
If no, then WHY NOT?
This is like SAYING and STATING that without words NO story could be spoken NOR written. Which, OBVIOUSLY, just SPEAKS for itself.
SO WHAT?
The 'conceptual frame of reference' ONLY EXISTS BECAUSE OF the 'matter', which is, was, and will be FORMED INTO what are called 'objects'.
WHEN 'you' UNDERSTAND WHO and WHAT 'God' IS, EXACTLY, then even 'you' WILL ALSO SEE what 'I' ACTUALLY AM, and MEAN, here, EXACTLY.
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Welcome to this first episode of - "Oh the Irony" - brought to you by the makers of Remington rifles.
< cue the organ music...
In this initial episode of - "Oh the Irony" - we are listening to the unborn Swanson twins, telepathically communicating with each other while still in their mother's womb:

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Welcome to this first episode of - "Oh the Irony" - brought to you by the makers of Remington rifles.
< cue the organ music...
In this initial episode of - "Oh the Irony" - we are listening to the unborn Swanson twins, telepathically communicating with each other while still in their mother's womb:
- Twin one: "I wonder what mom looks like?"
Twin two: "What mom? I don't see any mom around here."
Twin one: "But I can somehow sense her presence."
Twin Two: "That's just your imagination playing tricks on you. There is no mom."
Twin one: "But..."
Twin two: "There are no buts about it. The only things that exist are the two of us, this watery substance, and that impenetrable barrier that surrounds us. So, tell me, genius, where is this mom you speak of? Prove her existence to me."
Twin one: "How can I prove her existence to you?"
Twin two: "If this imaginary "mom" truly exists, then why doesn't she reveal herself to us?"
Twin one: "I don't know why. Perhaps she has a good reason?"
Twin two: "You're insane. Again, there is no mom. Trust me because I am way smarter than you because I rely on the obvious truth and facts."
Twin one: "Well, can we at least agree to disagree?"
Twin two: "No! You are clearly a victim of wishful thinking. Again, trust me when I say - there is no mom!!!"
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Twin 1: Do you think you can survive the revelation process, where all you know, changes?