Christianity

[Dubious]

One can only hope there's some true hope for humanity out there, in a universe full of asteroids, supernovas, blackholes, and rattlesnakes. Presumably, some sort of God perhaps created all those things.

Well yeah, but without supernovas and black holes and possibly even asteroids we wouldn't be here. As for rattlesnakes, they also have their function we being their enemy much more than they are ours. If god did indeed create all those things, it must have known what it was doing.

[Gary Childress]

One can only hope there's some true hope for humanity out there, in a universe full of asteroids, supernovas, blackholes, and rattlesnakes. Presumably, some sort of God perhaps created all those things.

Well yeah, but without supernovas and black holes and possibly even asteroids we wouldn't be here. As for rattlesnakes, they also have their function we being their enemy much more than they are ours. If god did indeed create all those things, it must have known what it was doing.

I guess the question then becomes, what did it want to do?

...and why?

[Dubious]

One can only hope there's some true hope for humanity out there, in a universe full of asteroids, supernovas, blackholes, and rattlesnakes. Presumably, some sort of God perhaps created all those things.

Well yeah, but without supernovas and black holes and possibly even asteroids we wouldn't be here. As for rattlesnakes, they also have their function we being their enemy much more than they are ours. If god did indeed create all those things, it must have known what it was doing.

I guess the question then becomes, what did it want to do?

...and why?

It did precisely what IT wanted to do since there was intent behind the project. Nature, conversely, has no intent; it only has process which accounts for a lot of things existing, which, if there were a god, it likely would have discounted as being cruel, vulgar, and unnecessary.

...as for 'why', it is impossible to know not knowing whether there is god or whether a "why" was ever required as if a "purpose" were intended for the creation of anything in our Big Mac universe!

[Gary Childress]

Well yeah, but without supernovas and black holes and possibly even asteroids we wouldn't be here. As for rattlesnakes, they also have their function we being their enemy much more than they are ours. If god did indeed create all those things, it must have known what it was doing.

I guess the question then becomes, what did it want to do?

...and why?

It did precisely what IT wanted to do since there was intent behind the project. Nature, conversely, has no intent; it only has process which accounts for a lot of things existing, which, if there were a god, it likely would have discounted as being cruel, vulgar, and unnecessary.

...as for 'why', it is impossible to know not knowing whether there is god or whether a "why" was ever required as if a "purpose" were intended for the creation of anything in our Big Mac universe!

https://vimeo.com/7038401

Abraham should have said "no" when asked to sacrifice his child.

[Gary Childress]

Well yeah, but without supernovas and black holes and possibly even asteroids we wouldn't be here. As for rattlesnakes, they also have their function we being their enemy much more than they are ours. If god did indeed create all those things, it must have known what it was doing.

I guess the question then becomes, what did it want to do?

...and why?

It did precisely what IT wanted to do since there was intent behind the project. Nature, conversely, has no intent; it only has process which accounts for a lot of things existing, which, if there were a god, it likely would have discounted as being cruel, vulgar, and unnecessary.

I agree with this part of your statement. As for knowing, 'why' I wonder if it's really impossible to know. If it is, then perhaps we as a species have lost. Perhaps we won't make it beyond our solar system, if even that far. Maybe we're not the chosen beings in this universe. Should we even want to be?

[Belinda]

I guess the question then becomes, what did it want to do?

...and why?

It did precisely what IT wanted to do since there was intent behind the project. Nature, conversely, has no intent; it only has process which accounts for a lot of things existing, which, if there were a god, it likely would have discounted as being cruel, vulgar, and unnecessary.

I agree with this part of your statement. As for knowing, 'why' I wonder if it's really impossible to know. If it is, then perhaps we as a species have lost. Perhaps we won't make it beyond our solar system, if even that far. Maybe we're not the chosen beings in this universe. Should we even want to be?

Gary, you seem to be holding on with your finger tips to your faith that God exists. Any sign yet that you will trust yourself enough to let go?

[Gary Childress]

Gary, you seem to be holding on with your finger tips to your faith that God exists. Any sign yet that you will trust yourself enough to let go?

If I understand your question, the answer is "no".

[Alexis Jacobi]

Gary, you seem to be holding on with your finger tips to your faith that God exists. Any sign yet that you will trust yourself enough to let go?

If I understand your question, the answer is "no".

But what if we point laser beams of intense skepticism, focused into a blinding, rational heat that incinerates those finger tips clutching with irrational might to a dreamlike projection that we have transcended?

Gary, Gary let yourself fall into the darkness of salvific oblivion! Look to Dubious, look to Iambiguous, for the sake of the muddy swampiness there beside the Asphodel Meadows look to prancing Promethean, whigger par exellance! for these people hold the Keys that will help you accept the annihilation of those "marvels and monstrosities of philosophers who do not reason but dream"!

There are knowable joys in nihilism! Not to mention the supreme relish of cruel acts against those pitiable weaklings who hang their hopes on Providence in the real world of mercilessly clashing random atoms.

Look, up in the sky, the circling vultures of agnosticism who will, in just a short while, feast with the Hyenas of cynical atheism on your decaying flesh. Welcome them, pray to them even. For there is no salvation from an Eternal Return to the Christianity Thread that will repeat itself until the last entropic burning match of hope has extinguished itself and utterly & finally given up.

We will be your guides, we will be your companions, we will envelop you in a seamless cloak, the Chiton of the No-God who No-Loves you.

You are mere steps away from the edge. A mere puff of wind will bring you to us!

Bwahahha hhahahhaaa Immanuel -- he is ours now, ours I tell you!

[Gary Childress]

Gary, you seem to be holding on with your finger tips to your faith that God exists. Any sign yet that you will trust yourself enough to let go?

If I understand your question, the answer is "no".

But what if we point laser beams of intense skepticism, focused into a blinding, rational heat that incinerates those finger tips clutching with irrational might to a dreamlike projection that we have transcended?

How do you "transcend" something that isn't even known to exist or not? Is there a God or is there not? If there is, then what ought I to do? If there isn't, then what ought I to do? If I can't even get past the first seemingly all-important question (whether or not there's a God) then I'm not sure how to address the following one (what ought I to do). Obviously, I could make a leap of faith past question #1, and go straight to the following one. However, if the Bible is right, I could face eternal torment for no other reason than picking the wrong answer to question #1.

[Flannel Jesus]

However, if the Bible is right, I could face eternal torment for no other reason than picking the wrong answer to question #1.

You might even face eternal torment for choosing the right answer...

Suppose a god exists, and there's nothing he hates more than theists...

[Alexis Jacobi]

Whew! I thought you were going to ask “What’s a whigger?”

[Gary Childress]

However, if the Bible is right, I could face eternal torment for no other reason than picking the wrong answer to question #1.

You might even face eternal torment for choosing the right answer...

Suppose a god exists, and there's nothing he hates more than theists...

Well, that actually sounds like a fair possibility as best I can reckon. It seems to me that theists who have embraced the words of the Bible have basically said they would do literally ANYTHING to go to heaven, including killing their own children.

[Gary Childress]

Whew! I thought you were going to ask “What’s a whigger?”

At first glance, it sounds like it might be a slang term an angry black person might call an angry white person. Without googling the term I have no idea and am not sure what need there is to.

[Alexis Jacobi]

Oh you need to, fo sho!

[Gary Childress]

OK. I googled the term. No idea how it relates to this discussion or anything else. I'll leave it to AJ "super genius" to know the answer to that.