There is no such thing as a sin therefore we are innocent

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Re: There is no such thing as a sin therefore we are innocent

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bahman wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:33 pm I think making life long commitment is wrong when you are not sure about its outcome.
What gets called 'cheating' in relationships need not be part of a marriage.

They are not naive, they are open-minded and wise.
I think a lot of people are naive about their not getting jealous and often one partner thinks they need to agree to openness because this will keep the other person. Young women are especially vulnerable to this 'agreeing'. I see lots of naivte in people thinking they are ok and are fine when they have sex with someone else but suddenly ahve different feelings when the other person does. And when kids are involved it only gets more problematic. Again: I would not stop people from it nor do I view it as sinful. I just think it tends to cause a lot of pain.

And people confuse their abstract ideals in their heads with what their full selves and the fulls elves of the other person feel and experience.
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Re: There is no such thing as a sin therefore we are innocent

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Iwannaplato wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:43 pm
bahman wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:27 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:57 am
I don't know if that answered my question or not. Is telling people they have done wrong the same as saying they sinned or not? If it is not, what's the difference?
Yes, telling people that they have done something wrong is the same as saying that they sinned.
So, it's right action to tell someone they sinned but there is no such thing as sin.

I'm lost.
You are correct. Perhaps I should be more specific about what I mean by sin and wrong. Most people think that you should feel guilty for your action and deserve punishment when you sin. This is a concept that I disagree with it, the concept of guilt and punishment. That follows from OP, we are innocent.
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Re: There is no such thing as a sin therefore we are innocent

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Iwannaplato wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:48 pm
bahman wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:33 pm I think making life long commitment is wrong when you are not sure about its outcome.
What gets called 'cheating' in relationships need not be part of a marriage.
Why people should cheat if there is the option of being open and allowing their partner to have sex with another one if she or he really needs it?
Iwannaplato wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:48 pm
They are not naive, they are open-minded and wise.
I think a lot of people are naive about their not getting jealous and often one partner thinks they need to agree to openness because this will keep the other person. Young women are especially vulnerable to this 'agreeing'. I see lots of naivte in people thinking they are ok and are fine when they have sex with someone else but suddenly ahve different feelings when the other person does. And when kids are involved it only gets more problematic. Again: I would not stop people from it nor do I view it as sinful. I just think it tends to cause a lot of pain.

And people confuse their abstract ideals in their heads with what their full selves and the fulls elves of the other person feel and experience.
Pain becomes unavoidable if we don't teach our children to take care of their feeling when it comes to romantic or sexual relationships. I know that controlling feelings is not easy but that does not mean that we have the right to prevent the right of our partner.
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