The meaning of life

[Harbal]

To me, the 'nature' of the 'purpose' 'you', human beings, have is, literally, just A Natural INSTINCT WITHIN ALL of 'you'.

So are you saying that whatever our instincts are driving us towards doing, that is our (human beings) purpose in existing? If that is not what you mean, please feel free to explain what you do mean.

What I mean by 'predetermined' is WHEN 'you', human beings, START to come-to-see and KNOW who and what the 'I' IS, EXACTLY, then 'you' will ALSO SEE, UNDERSTAND, as well as KNOW HOW the 'goal' or 'end result' was ACTUALLY ALWAYS GOING TO HAPPEN, and so WAS ALWAYS DETERMINED TO HAPPEN.

This just seems to be a speculative prediction of what you think human beings will realise at some time in the future, and that the thing they realise will motivate them into making something in particular happen. If you actually know with certainty that this realisation and consequent action will occur, will you explain how you came to know it? Also, will you explain what they (human beings) will come to realise, and what they will do about it when they do realise?

[Belinda]

Age wrote:

What I mean by 'predetermined' is WHEN 'you', human beings, START to come-to-see and KNOW who and what the 'I' IS, EXACTLY, then 'you' will ALSO SEE, UNDERSTAND, as well as KNOW HOW the 'goal' or 'end result' was ACTUALLY ALWAYS GOING TO HAPPEN, and so WAS ALWAYS DETERMINED TO HAPPEN.

Nobody will be able to know what any living creature (the 'I' )is until the moment when the creature dies. This is because the future of a living creature is created by that creature out of the raw material of possibility. Granted , some creatures have little freedom of choice or no perception of self, but choose men must and choose men do until we are dying.

[Dontaskme]

So, WHY do 'you' write in a VERY 'superfluous' way, "dontaskme'?

You need to be asking yourself the same question.

[Age]

To me, the 'nature' of the 'purpose' 'you', human beings, have is, literally, just A Natural INSTINCT WITHIN ALL of 'you'.

So are you saying that whatever our instincts are driving us towards doing, that is our (human beings) purpose in existing?

Yes.

If that is not what you mean, please feel free to explain what you do mean.

1. TELLING someone to 'please feel free to explain what you do mean', is NOT asking them question FOR CLARIFICATION.

2. I AM absolutely FREE to do whatever I so choose, which MEANS that I DO FEEL FREE, ALWAYS, with, or WITHOUT, you TELLING me to.

3. If I was to say 'No', and to then ASSUME that you WOULD LIKE me to now EXPLAIN what I do mean, then that would go AGAINST my desire to NOT ASSUME 'things'.

4. However, if you would like me to EXPLAIN some 'thing', to you, then I suggest you just ASK me the SPECIFIC QUESTION, which you SEEK to be CLARIFIED, for you.

What I mean by 'predetermined' is WHEN 'you', human beings, START to come-to-see and KNOW who and what the 'I' IS, EXACTLY, then 'you' will ALSO SEE, UNDERSTAND, as well as KNOW HOW the 'goal' or 'end result' was ACTUALLY ALWAYS GOING TO HAPPEN, and so WAS ALWAYS DETERMINED TO HAPPEN.

This just seems to be a speculative prediction of what you think human beings will realise at some time in the future, and that the thing they realise will motivate them into making something in particular happen.

What you call 'speculative', "another" might call 'it' KNOWING, FOR SURE.

If you actually know with certainty that this realisation and consequent action will occur, will you explain how you came to know it?

WHEN I LEARN how to communicate BETTER with 'you', human beings, THEN I WILL.

UNTIL THEN, I am STILL just in the process of LEARNING how to communicate BETTER.

But, UNTIL THEN how I came to know 'it' was through H.O.W. That is; absolute Honesty, OPENNESS, and a serious Wanting to CHANGE, for the BETTER, and NOT just BETTER for 'me' but for the "others" around 'me'.

Also, will you explain what they (human beings) will come to realise, and what they will do about it when they do realise?

'they' WILL come to REALIZE who and what thee 'I' IS, EXACTLY, and 'they' WILL CHANGE, for the BETTER, and NOT just for the BETTER of SOME but for the BETTER of ALL and EVERY one.

[Harbal]

If that is not what you mean, please feel free to explain what you do mean.

1. TELLING someone to 'please feel free to explain what you do mean', is NOT asking them question FOR CLARIFICATION.

2. I AM absolutely FREE to do whatever I so choose, which MEANS that I DO FEEL FREE, ALWAYS, with, or WITHOUT, you TELLING me to.

3. If I was to say 'No', and to then ASSUME that you WOULD LIKE me to now EXPLAIN what I do mean, then that would go AGAINST my desire to NOT ASSUME 'things'.

4. However, if you would like me to EXPLAIN some 'thing', to you, then I suggest you just ASK me the SPECIFIC QUESTION, which you SEEK to be CLARIFIED, for you.

No, I have gone far enough in trying to adapt my language to meet your demands. The sentence of mine that you quoted would be quite acceptable to most people.

[Age]

If that is not what you mean, please feel free to explain what you do mean.

1. TELLING someone to 'please feel free to explain what you do mean', is NOT asking them question FOR CLARIFICATION.

2. I AM absolutely FREE to do whatever I so choose, which MEANS that I DO FEEL FREE, ALWAYS, with, or WITHOUT, you TELLING me to.

3. If I was to say 'No', and to then ASSUME that you WOULD LIKE me to now EXPLAIN what I do mean, then that would go AGAINST my desire to NOT ASSUME 'things'.

4. However, if you would like me to EXPLAIN some 'thing', to you, then I suggest you just ASK me the SPECIFIC QUESTION, which you SEEK to be CLARIFIED, for you.

No, I have gone far enough in trying to adapt my language to meet your demands.

1. What are you saying, 'No', to here, EXACTLY?

2. What 'demands' do you think or ASSUME I have here?

The sentence of mine that you quoted would be quite acceptable to most people.

And, MOST people in the day and age when this was being written, WERE VERY CONFUSED about what IS ACTUALLY True and Right in Life.

Also, if you were aware that I wrote, 'Yes', then the sentence of yours that I quoted was redundant anyway.

[Harbal]

1. What are you saying, 'No', to here, EXACTLY?

I am saying no to continuing to deal with your nit picking. It's not worth the effort. Even on the rare occassions when you actually answer a question, you divulge hardly anything. Engaging with you takes a lot of work, but with no reward.

[Age]

1. What are you saying, 'No', to here, EXACTLY?

I am saying no to continuing to deal with your nit picking. It's not worth the effort. Even on the rare occassions when you actually answer a question, you divulge hardly anything. Engaging with you takes a lot of work, but with no reward.

Okay.

But if I was to ask you to provide what actual evidence or proof that you have for your claims that there is NO meaning NOR purpose to Life, then how much would you actually divulge?

[Harbal]

But if I was to ask you to provide what actual evidence or proof that you have for your claims that there is NO meaning NOR purpose to Life, then how much would you actually divulge?

I would divulge all the evidence and proof I had, which happens to be none, and I've already provided you with that.

[Dontaskme]

What you call 'speculative', "another" might call 'it' KNOWING, FOR SURE.

In knowing the meaning of words, all that is known is 'meaning'.

In 'not knowing', everything is known.

[Age]

What you call 'speculative', "another" might call 'it' KNOWING, FOR SURE.

In knowing the meaning of words, all that is known is 'meaning'.

In 'not knowing', everything is known.

But this here has absolutely NOTHING AT ALL to do with what I was talking about.

[Age]

But if I was to ask you to provide what actual evidence or proof that you have for your claims that there is NO meaning NOR purpose to Life, then how much would you actually divulge?

I would divulge all the evidence and proof I had, which happens to be none, and I've already provided you with that.

So, there is absolutely NOTHING AT ALL that backs up and supports your claim/s here.

[Dubious]

But if I was to ask you to provide what actual evidence or proof that you have for your claims that there is NO meaning NOR purpose to Life, then how much would you actually divulge?

I would divulge all the evidence and proof I had, which happens to be none, and I've already provided you with that.

So, there is absolutely NOTHING AT ALL that backs up and supports your claim/s here.

What means meaning never to be known,
Meaning has no meaning unless it's shown.

...and since none was ever shown from the very beginning of time, there couldn't be a greater probability that there is none.

If you think there is, show it and prove it or at least give it a high probability status since you always ask everyone else for proof!

[Age]

I would divulge all the evidence and proof I had, which happens to be none, and I've already provided you with that.

So, there is absolutely NOTHING AT ALL that backs up and supports your claim/s here.

What means meaning never to be known,
Meaning has no meaning unless it's shown.

When, and if, one LOOKS in a dictionary, then the 'meaning' IS, literally, SHOWN.

...and since none was ever shown from the very beginning of time,

What do you mean by 'time'? And, there was NEVER a 'beginning of time' anyway, well not from the sense nor perspective, which you are thinking about or believing from here?

Oh, and by the way, the meaning of EVERY thing is LITERALLY being SHOWN to 'you', human beings. But, sadly, some are just NOT YET FULLY OPEN enough to SEEING and RECOGNIZING this Fact.

there couldn't be a greater probability that there is none.

This now appears to be a BELIEF of yours and NOT just a thought.

If you think there is, show it and prove it or at least give it a high probability status since you always ask everyone else for proof!

FIRST TELL me what 'it' IS, EXACTLY, which you want proof of and/or for here.

Is 'it' just 'meaning'?
Is 'it' just 'meaning is shown'?
Is 'it' just some 'thing' else?

If the last one here is correct, then what is 'the some 'thing' else' that you want me to prove here?

[Dontaskme]

But if I was to ask you to provide what actual evidence or proof that you have for your claims that there is NO meaning NOR purpose to Life, then how much would you actually divulge?

I would divulge all the evidence and proof I had, which happens to be none, and I've already provided you with that.

So, there is absolutely NOTHING AT ALL that backs up and supports your claim/s here.