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Age wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:09 am
popeye1945 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:42 pm With complete loss of memory there is still a basic identification with an anonymous I. Where you do not know who you are or who anyone else is, you just know that you're alive and it feels pretty dam good.
Some people with 'loss of memory' appear to get 'confused' and/or somewhat 'irritable', which, from what I have observed, is NOT that so-called 'dam good' AT ALL.
My personal experience was having repeated experiences but relatively brief before memory came flooding back to me. The initial experience is feeling the vitality of life with no burdens of memory to define who or what you are. It is briefly having some weight taken off. Lasting for a longer period no doubt would be alarming, complete disorientation, but it would still be an anonymous I that is disoriented and certainly in the long-term unpleasant.
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popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am
Age wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:09 am
popeye1945 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:42 pm With complete loss of memory there is still a basic identification with an anonymous I. Where you do not know who you are or who anyone else is, you just know that you're alive and it feels pretty dam good.
Some people with 'loss of memory' appear to get 'confused' and/or somewhat 'irritable', which, from what I have observed, is NOT that so-called 'dam good' AT ALL.
My personal experience was having repeated experiences but relatively brief before memory came flooding back to me.
While being 'awake' and 'aware', without 'thought', as 'you' are saying and explaining here, 'memory' is just 'thought' after all, I found to be the most Truly BLISSFUL 'experience'.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am The initial experience is feeling the vitality of life with no burdens of memory to define who or what you are.
Some just call this 'thought free Awareness'.

But I found that AFTER I KNEW what thee ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE answer to the question, Who am 'I'?' IS EXACTLY, that I can NOW 'feel' the ABSOLUTE VITALITY of ALL of Life, WITH 'memory'. But, as 'you' were SAYING, WITHOUT the 'memory/thoughts' the experience is PURE BLISS.

However, I have found and learned that 'memory', or 'thoughts' of the past, provide 'I' with ACTUAL PROOF, which is necessary to KNOW 'things', FOR SURE.

I, NOW, do NOT use 'memory/thought', first, to LOOK AT and SEE 'the world', because of the 'disorientation' and 'distortion' doing so can cause and create, so INSTEAD I LOOK AT and SEE 'the world' in 'thought free Awareness', or just through thee Truly OPEN Mind, and THEN use 'past experiences', 'thought', or 'memory' to VERIFY or DISPROVE what I am LOOKING AT and/or OBSERVING.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am It is briefly having some weight taken off.
But there is only 'weight', or 'confusion', there in 'you' because 'you' do NOT YET KNOW who NOR what 'you' NOR 'I' am, EXACTLY.

But 'you' are Right the 'weight' is TAKEN OFF when just NOT 'thinking', and there is NO 'memory', and so NO 'thing' to DISTRACT, nor DISTORT, thee ACTUAL BEAUTY of 'living', and 'being alive', itself.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am Lasting for a longer period no doubt would be alarming, complete disorientation,
But in absolute 'thought free Awareness' there is NO disorientation AT ALL. This is because there is ONLY absolute Awareness, happening.

It is the actual False, Wrong, or Incorrect 'thought' or 'thinking', in other words, it is having 'memory', which do NOT answer questions, like, for example, who am I? which is what causes confusion, distortion, distraction, and disorientation here.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am but it would still be an anonymous I that is disoriented and certainly in the long-term unpleasant.
Yes it was for 'me' too. That was, UNTIL these 'things' here become MUCH CLEARER and/or absolutely CRYSTAL CLEAR, one of which was; Coming-to-KNOW thy 'I', which HAD BEEN completely 'anonymous', PREVIOUSLY.

By the way "popeye1945", THANK YOU for the further explanation and elaboration. This further explanation/elaboration made, what you said previous, far CLEARER and made far MORE SENSE to 'me' now.
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Age wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:07 am
Belinda wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:06 pm
Age wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:40 am

And, if 'I' was to ask 'you' what are these 'mind' things, EXACTLY, and WHERE do they exist, EXACTLY, then what would 'your' answers BE?

Also, do NOT forget that ALL of 'them' MUST OF BEEN EXISTING BEFORE the 'whole world' WAS CREATED.



But HOW, EXACTLY, could a so-called 'bundle of experiences' EXIST BEFORE there was even a 'whole world' EXISTING.

I suggest BEFORE 'you', human beings, even BEGIN to START making CLAIMS that 'you' OBTAIN IRREFUTABLE PROOF BEFORE 'you' make the CLAIMS PUBLIC.


You are WELCOME.

I do this out of ENJOYMENT so there is REALLY NOTHING to thank me for here.



Who and/or what does the 'we' word refer to here, EXACTLY?
Touche! I'd better have written "experiences are all that can be known."
To 'me', this makes far more sense.

This also translates to, 'ALL knowledge comes from past experiences', which is an irrefutable Fact as being the reason why to NEVER 'blame' ANY one if they do NOT YET KNOW some 'thing'. If 'one' has NEVER 'experienced' some 'thing', then HOW, EXACTLY, could that 'one' EVER be EXPECTED to KNOW or 'it' or have ANY actual 'knowledge' about 'it'. For example, I would NEVER EXPECT 'you', adult human beings, in the days when this is being written to KNOW or have ANY knowledge AT ALL about HOW to live in Peace and in Harmony with one "another", as One, BECAUSE absolutely NONE of 'you' have 'experienced' this 'way of life' YET. The EXACT SAME as I would NEVER EXPECT previous to these days when this is being written the human beings, back then, to KNOW or have ANY knowledge of living with computers and the internet, flying machines, motor vehicles, electricity, and all of the other 'things' and 'way of living' that 'you', human beings, are continuing CREATING, and LEARNING about.

See, I could NEVER, REALLY, FULLY EXPLAIN, SUCCESSFULLY, to 'you', human beings, about how 'you' WILL BE, soon enough, living with the internet, airplanes, space rockets, satellites, cell phones, videos, global positioning systems, robots, artificial intelligence, and self driving cars before what is called the 1900's. I would NEVER EXPECT 'them' to UNDERSTAND FULLY. EXACTLY like I do NOT EXPECT 'you', human beings, in the days when this is being written to FULLY UNDERSTAND how 'you' WILL BE, very soon enough, living in a Truly Peaceful AND Harmonious 'world' WITH "one another" as One. It will ONLY be when 'young children' living WITHIN this 'way of life', and when babies are born into this EXACT 'way of life', that 'they' will THEN 'experience' this 'way of life and living', and so WILL LEARN 'this way of life and living', and this will will NOT ONLY BECOME KNOWN, but will be TAUGHT, Naturally, to the 'young', who WILL, AGAIN Naturally, pass on this 'knowledge', and KNOWING, 'way of life' onto ALL future generations, who WILL have 'this' KNOWING and 'knowledge', Naturally. Also, ALL of these 'future generations' will come to think or BELIEVE that they could NOT live WITHOUT Peace and WITHOUT Harmony, just like ALL of the 'younger human beings' and 'older children' 'now', in the day that this IS written think or BELIEVE that they could NOT live WITHOUT their phones and the internet.

'Past experiences' of a human body, literally, becomes what is KNOWN, or 'knowledge', which is stored with, or within, the brain, as 'thoughts', themselves.
Yes to all that, Age. Remember planning for the future is also an experience. It's an experience that presumably most other animals, and almost certainly sticks, stones, and robots, don't pertain to.
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At the level of knowledge, the understanding will reflect what is obvious through observation or through learning. At the level of wisdom, the understanding will reflect that which can never be observed, can never be learnt and can never be taught.

Life is always one step ahead of the human mind. So you can never know what will be done before it happens. So this wisdom of life that the knowledge of human actions is illusory and not real.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:54 pm At the level of knowledge, the understanding will reflect what is obvious through observation or through learning. At the level of wisdom, the understanding will reflect that which can never be observed, can never be learnt and can never be taught.
And what do 'you', the Absolute, PRESUME can NEVER be learned, NEVER be taught, NEVER be seen, and NEVER be understood?

And, HOW did 'you' come to learn, teach, see, and understand this KNOWLEDGE?
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:54 pm Life is always one step ahead of the human mind.
There is NO 'human mind'. But, OF COURSE, if there ACTUALLY was 'one', then 'you', the Absolute, could INFORM 'us', who do NOT exist, and who do NOT know, WHERE this 'human mind', IS, WHAT 'it' IS, HOW 'it' works, and WHY 'it' EXISTS, EXACTLY, correct?

OR, is the Absolute NOT capable of doing ANY of 'this'?
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:54 pm So you can never know what will be done before it happens.
SO, the Absolute can NEVER know what will be done before it happens, correct?

YET, "dontaskme", supposedly, KNOWS what the Absolute can and can NOT do.
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:54 pm So this wisdom of life that the knowledge of human actions is illusory and not real.
HOW do 'you' KNOW?
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Age wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:02 am
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am
Age wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:09 am

Some people with 'loss of memory' appear to get 'confused' and/or somewhat 'irritable', which, from what I have observed, is NOT that so-called 'dam good' AT ALL.
My personal experience was having repeated experiences but relatively brief before memory came flooding back to me.
While being 'awake' and 'aware', without 'thought', as 'you' are saying and explaining here, 'memory' is just 'thought' after all, I found to be the most Truly BLISSFUL 'experience'.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am The initial experience is feeling the vitality of life with no burdens of memory to define who or what you are.
Some just call this 'thought free Awareness'.

But I found that AFTER I KNEW what thee ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE answer to the question, Who am 'I'?' IS EXACTLY, that I can NOW 'feel' the ABSOLUTE VITALITY of ALL of Life, WITH 'memory'. But, as 'you' were SAYING, WITHOUT the 'memory/thoughts' the experience is PURE BLISS.

However, I have found and learned that 'memory', or 'thoughts' of the past, provide 'I' with ACTUAL PROOF, which is necessary to KNOW 'things', FOR SURE.

I, NOW, do NOT use 'memory/thought', first, to LOOK AT and SEE 'the world', because of the 'disorientation' and 'distortion' doing so can cause and create, so INSTEAD I LOOK AT and SEE 'the world' in 'thought free Awareness', or just through thee Truly OPEN Mind, and THEN use 'past experiences', 'thought', or 'memory' to VERIFY or DISPROVE what I am LOOKING AT and/or OBSERVING.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am It is briefly having some weight taken off.
But there is only 'weight', or 'confusion', there in 'you' because 'you' do NOT YET KNOW who NOR what 'you' NOR 'I' am, EXACTLY.

But 'you' are Right the 'weight' is TAKEN OFF when just NOT 'thinking', and there is NO 'memory', and so NO 'thing' to DISTRACT, nor DISTORT, thee ACTUAL BEAUTY of 'living', and 'being alive', itself.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am Lasting for a longer period no doubt would be alarming, complete disorientation,
But in absolute 'thought free Awareness' there is NO disorientation AT ALL. This is because there is ONLY absolute Awareness, happening.

It is the actual False, Wrong, or Incorrect 'thought' or 'thinking', in other words, it is having 'memory', which do NOT answer questions, like, for example, who am I? which is what causes confusion, distortion, distraction, and disorientation here.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am but it would still be an anonymous I that is disoriented and certainly in the long-term unpleasant.
Yes it was for 'me' too. That was, UNTIL these 'things' here become MUCH CLEARER and/or absolutely CRYSTAL CLEAR, one of which was; Coming-to-KNOW thy 'I', which HAD BEEN completely 'anonymous', PREVIOUSLY.

By the way "popeye1945", THANK YOU for the further explanation and elaboration. This further explanation/elaboration made, what you said previous, far CLEARER and made far MORE SENSE to 'me' now.
In reaching to know the I what did you discern other than pure experience?
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Age wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:44 pm
HOW do 'you' KNOW?
The ocean of all that is, was and ever will be, never asks itself HOW. All that is, was and ever will be, is just 'what is' self-evidently without beginning nor end.

The ocean of all that is never turns from it's waves. The waves turn from the ocean of all that is 'apparently'
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popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:59 pm
Age wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:02 am
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am

My personal experience was having repeated experiences but relatively brief before memory came flooding back to me.
While being 'awake' and 'aware', without 'thought', as 'you' are saying and explaining here, 'memory' is just 'thought' after all, I found to be the most Truly BLISSFUL 'experience'.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am The initial experience is feeling the vitality of life with no burdens of memory to define who or what you are.
Some just call this 'thought free Awareness'.

But I found that AFTER I KNEW what thee ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE answer to the question, Who am 'I'?' IS EXACTLY, that I can NOW 'feel' the ABSOLUTE VITALITY of ALL of Life, WITH 'memory'. But, as 'you' were SAYING, WITHOUT the 'memory/thoughts' the experience is PURE BLISS.

However, I have found and learned that 'memory', or 'thoughts' of the past, provide 'I' with ACTUAL PROOF, which is necessary to KNOW 'things', FOR SURE.

I, NOW, do NOT use 'memory/thought', first, to LOOK AT and SEE 'the world', because of the 'disorientation' and 'distortion' doing so can cause and create, so INSTEAD I LOOK AT and SEE 'the world' in 'thought free Awareness', or just through thee Truly OPEN Mind, and THEN use 'past experiences', 'thought', or 'memory' to VERIFY or DISPROVE what I am LOOKING AT and/or OBSERVING.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am It is briefly having some weight taken off.
But there is only 'weight', or 'confusion', there in 'you' because 'you' do NOT YET KNOW who NOR what 'you' NOR 'I' am, EXACTLY.

But 'you' are Right the 'weight' is TAKEN OFF when just NOT 'thinking', and there is NO 'memory', and so NO 'thing' to DISTRACT, nor DISTORT, thee ACTUAL BEAUTY of 'living', and 'being alive', itself.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am Lasting for a longer period no doubt would be alarming, complete disorientation,
But in absolute 'thought free Awareness' there is NO disorientation AT ALL. This is because there is ONLY absolute Awareness, happening.

It is the actual False, Wrong, or Incorrect 'thought' or 'thinking', in other words, it is having 'memory', which do NOT answer questions, like, for example, who am I? which is what causes confusion, distortion, distraction, and disorientation here.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am but it would still be an anonymous I that is disoriented and certainly in the long-term unpleasant.
Yes it was for 'me' too. That was, UNTIL these 'things' here become MUCH CLEARER and/or absolutely CRYSTAL CLEAR, one of which was; Coming-to-KNOW thy 'I', which HAD BEEN completely 'anonymous', PREVIOUSLY.

By the way "popeye1945", THANK YOU for the further explanation and elaboration. This further explanation/elaboration made, what you said previous, far CLEARER and made far MORE SENSE to 'me' now.
In reaching to know the I what did you discern other than pure experience?
First things first, i NEVER sought out 'to' know the 'I'. It was from just doing some 'thing' in a way, which most "others" do NOT do, that the who and the what of thee 'I' is, EXACTLY, was revealed to me.

While in the process of what i was doing, what was uncovered, unveiled, and/or recognized and found out were a few 'things', like, for example, but not limited to;

What the key is, exactly, which unlocked the previously so-called 'mysteries' of Life. For example, HOW to find and KNOW the True, Right, and Correct answers to all of the Truly meaningful questions in Life, and well as to the so-called 'problems' in Life.

How and WHY ALL of 'you', human beings, think what 'you' do, and do what 'you' do.

Who and what 'you' are, exactly.

Who and what 'I' am, exactly.

Who and what the words Spirit, Allah, God, Enlightenment, and other words in relation to good and evil, et cetera are meaning, referencing, or pointing to, exactly?

How the Mind and the brain work, exactly.

How to distinguish between what is ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY True and Right, from what 'you', human beings, PERCEIVE to be true and right. Or, in other words, how to find and KNOW what thee ACTUAL Truth of 'things' are.

What is morally Right and morally Wrong, in Life.

How to create a Truly Peaceful 'world' for EVERY one forever more.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:05 pm
Age wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:44 pm
HOW do 'you' KNOW?
The ocean of all that is, was and ever will be, never asks itself HOW. All that is, was and ever will be, is just 'what is' self-evidently without beginning nor end.

The ocean of all that is never turns from it's waves. The waves turn from the ocean of all that is 'apparently'
In other words, 'you', the one here known as "dontaskme" does NOT know, and is, OBVIOUSLY, here just 'trying to' DEFLECT.

What is ALSO CLEAR here is that 'you' have CHOSEN a very appropriate username here, so that 'you' feel FREE to express WHATEVER 'you' want, and CLAIM to be true, while also holding some BELIEF that 'you' should NOT be questioned NOR challenged over YOUR CLAIMS.

Also. 'I', the so-called 'ocean of all that is', was NEVER asking thy 'Self' HOW. As can be CLEARLY SEEN, 'as light is day', as some might say, 'I' was asking 'you'.

Can 'you' SPOT, and SEE, THE DIFFERENCE?
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Age wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:03 am
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:05 pm
Age wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:44 pm
HOW do 'you' KNOW?
The ocean of all that is, was and ever will be, never asks itself HOW. All that is, was and ever will be, is just 'what is' self-evidently without beginning nor end.

The ocean of all that is never turns from it's waves. The waves turn from the ocean of all that is 'apparently'
In other words, 'you', the one here known as "dontaskme" does NOT know, and is, OBVIOUSLY, here just 'trying to' DEFLECT.

What is ALSO CLEAR here is that 'you' have CHOSEN a very appropriate username here, so that 'you' feel FREE to express WHATEVER 'you' want, and CLAIM to be true, while also holding some BELIEF that 'you' should NOT be questioned NOR challenged over YOUR CLAIMS.

Also. 'I', the so-called 'ocean of all that is', was NEVER asking thy 'Self' HOW. As can be CLEARLY SEEN, 'as light is day', as some might say, 'I' was asking 'you'.

Can 'you' SPOT, and SEE, THE DIFFERENCE?
There's just what's happening. . along with No thing is making what's happening happen, nor can make what is happening unhappen.

HOW is what is happening - happening, is irrelevant.

Here, there is only Unknowing. The Absolute understanding.

That's all there is to understand....everything else is just a boring rinse and repeat semantic story, told by a fool over and over again, going nowhere, signifying nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7v19F_Adgo
The Brain - The Center Cannot Hold

The one asking HOW doesn't exist Age, please pay attention, and perhaps listen more to what the words are pointing to.
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popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:59 pm
Age wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:02 am
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am

My personal experience was having repeated experiences but relatively brief before memory came flooding back to me.
While being 'awake' and 'aware', without 'thought', as 'you' are saying and explaining here, 'memory' is just 'thought' after all, I found to be the most Truly BLISSFUL 'experience'.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am The initial experience is feeling the vitality of life with no burdens of memory to define who or what you are.
Some just call this 'thought free Awareness'.

But I found that AFTER I KNEW what thee ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE answer to the question, Who am 'I'?' IS EXACTLY, that I can NOW 'feel' the ABSOLUTE VITALITY of ALL of Life, WITH 'memory'. But, as 'you' were SAYING, WITHOUT the 'memory/thoughts' the experience is PURE BLISS.

However, I have found and learned that 'memory', or 'thoughts' of the past, provide 'I' with ACTUAL PROOF, which is necessary to KNOW 'things', FOR SURE.

I, NOW, do NOT use 'memory/thought', first, to LOOK AT and SEE 'the world', because of the 'disorientation' and 'distortion' doing so can cause and create, so INSTEAD I LOOK AT and SEE 'the world' in 'thought free Awareness', or just through thee Truly OPEN Mind, and THEN use 'past experiences', 'thought', or 'memory' to VERIFY or DISPROVE what I am LOOKING AT and/or OBSERVING.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am It is briefly having some weight taken off.
But there is only 'weight', or 'confusion', there in 'you' because 'you' do NOT YET KNOW who NOR what 'you' NOR 'I' am, EXACTLY.

But 'you' are Right the 'weight' is TAKEN OFF when just NOT 'thinking', and there is NO 'memory', and so NO 'thing' to DISTRACT, nor DISTORT, thee ACTUAL BEAUTY of 'living', and 'being alive', itself.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am Lasting for a longer period no doubt would be alarming, complete disorientation,
But in absolute 'thought free Awareness' there is NO disorientation AT ALL. This is because there is ONLY absolute Awareness, happening.

It is the actual False, Wrong, or Incorrect 'thought' or 'thinking', in other words, it is having 'memory', which do NOT answer questions, like, for example, who am I? which is what causes confusion, distortion, distraction, and disorientation here.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am but it would still be an anonymous I that is disoriented and certainly in the long-term unpleasant.
Yes it was for 'me' too. That was, UNTIL these 'things' here become MUCH CLEARER and/or absolutely CRYSTAL CLEAR, one of which was; Coming-to-KNOW thy 'I', which HAD BEEN completely 'anonymous', PREVIOUSLY.

By the way "popeye1945", THANK YOU for the further explanation and elaboration. This further explanation/elaboration made, what you said previous, far CLEARER and made far MORE SENSE to 'me' now.
In reaching to know the I what did you discern other than pure experience?
Popeye is so right! Popeye takes Descarte's method of scepticism and does not fall into Descartes's error of presuming the ego within cogito and sum.
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Belinda wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:48 pm
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:59 pm
Age wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:02 am

While being 'awake' and 'aware', without 'thought', as 'you' are saying and explaining here, 'memory' is just 'thought' after all, I found to be the most Truly BLISSFUL 'experience'.



Some just call this 'thought free Awareness'.

But I found that AFTER I KNEW what the ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE answer to the question, who am 'I'?' IS EXACTLY, that I can NOW 'feel' the ABSOLUTE VITALITY of ALL of Life, WITH 'memory'. But, as 'you' were SAYING, WITHOUT the 'memory/thoughts' the experience is PURE BLISS.

However, I have found and learned that 'memory', or 'thoughts' of the past, provide 'I' with ACTUAL PROOF, which is necessary to KNOW 'things', FOR SURE.

I, NOW, do NOT use 'memory/thought', first, to LOOK AT and SEE 'the world', because of the 'disorientation' and 'distortion' doing so can cause and create, so INSTEAD I LOOK AT and SEE 'the world' in 'thought free Awareness', or just through thee Truly OPEN Mind, and THEN use 'past experiences', 'thought', or 'memory' to VERIFY or DISPROVE what I am LOOKING AT and/or OBSERVING.



But there is only 'weight', or 'confusion', there in 'you' because 'you' do NOT YET KNOW who NOR what 'you' NOR 'I' am, EXACTLY.

But 'you' are Right the 'weight' is TAKEN OFF when just NOT 'thinking', and there is NO 'memory', and so NO 'thing' to DISTRACT, nor DISTORT, the ACTUAL BEAUTY of 'living', and 'being alive', itself.


But in absolute 'thought free Awareness' there is NO disorientation AT ALL. This is because there is ONLY absolute Awareness, happening.

It is the actual False, Wrong, or Incorrect 'thought' or 'thinking', in other words, it is having 'memory', which do NOT answer questions, like, for example, who am I? which is what causes confusion, distortion, distraction, and disorientation here.


Yes it was for 'me' too. That was, UNTIL these 'things' here become MUCH CLEARER and/or absolutely CRYSTAL CLEAR, one of which was Coming-to-KNOW thy 'I', which HAD BEEN completely 'anonymous', PREVIOUSLY.

By the way "popeye1945", THANK YOU for the further explanation and elaboration. This further explanation/elaboration made, what you said previously, far CLEARER and made far MORE SENSE to 'me' now.
In reaching to know the I what did you discern other than pure experience?
Popeye is so right! Popeye takes Descartes's method of skepticism and does not fall into Descartes's error of presuming the ego within cogito and sum.
The essence of I is life and the I /essence belongs to all creatures. Thanks for the input, Belinda. You clarified it for me as well!!
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Age wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:02 am
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am
Age wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:09 am

Some people with 'loss of memory' appear to get 'confused' and/or somewhat 'irritable', which, from what I have observed, is NOT that so-called 'dam good' AT ALL.
My personal experience was having repeated experiences but relatively brief before memory came flooding back to me.
While being 'awake' and 'aware', without 'thought', as 'you' are saying and explaining here, 'memory' is just 'thought' after all, I found to be the most Truly BLISSFUL 'experience'.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am The initial experience is feeling the vitality of life with no burdens of memory to define who or what you are.
Some just call this 'thought free Awareness'.

But I found that AFTER I KNEW what thee ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE answer to the question, Who am 'I'?' IS EXACTLY, that I can NOW 'feel' the ABSOLUTE VITALITY of ALL of Life, WITH 'memory'. But, as 'you' were SAYING, WITHOUT the 'memory/thoughts' the experience is PURE BLISS.

However, I have found and learned that 'memory', or 'thoughts' of the past, provide 'I' with ACTUAL PROOF, which is necessary to KNOW 'things', FOR SURE.

I, NOW, do NOT use 'memory/thought', first, to LOOK AT and SEE 'the world', because of the 'disorientation' and 'distortion' doing so can cause and create, so INSTEAD I LOOK AT and SEE 'the world' in 'thought free Awareness', or just through thee Truly OPEN Mind, and THEN use 'past experiences', 'thought', or 'memory' to VERIFY or DISPROVE what I am LOOKING AT and/or OBSERVING.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am It is briefly having some weight taken off.
But there is only 'weight', or 'confusion', there in 'you' because 'you' do NOT YET KNOW who NOR what 'you' NOR 'I' am, EXACTLY.

But 'you' are Right the 'weight' is TAKEN OFF when just NOT 'thinking', and there is NO 'memory', and so NO 'thing' to DISTRACT, nor DISTORT, thee ACTUAL BEAUTY of 'living', and 'being alive', itself.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am Lasting for a longer period no doubt would be alarming, complete disorientation,
But in absolute 'thought free Awareness' there is NO disorientation AT ALL. This is because there is ONLY absolute Awareness, happening.

It is the actual False, Wrong, or Incorrect 'thought' or 'thinking', in other words, it is having 'memory', which do NOT answer questions, like, for example, who am I? which is what causes confusion, distortion, distraction, and disorientation here.
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:30 am but it would still be an anonymous I that is disoriented and certainly in the long-term unpleasant.
Yes it was for 'me' too. That was, UNTIL these 'things' here become MUCH CLEARER and/or absolutely CRYSTAL CLEAR, one of which was; Coming-to-KNOW thy 'I', which HAD BEEN completely 'anonymous', PREVIOUSLY.

By the way "popeye1945", THANK YOU for the further explanation and elaboration. This further explanation/elaboration made, what you said previous, far CLEARER and made far MORE SENSE to 'me' now.
Please tell me how you got that blissful experience, Age. Or was the experience spontaneous?
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popeye1945 wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:26 pm
Belinda wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:48 pm
popeye1945 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:59 pm

In reaching to know the I what did you discern other than pure experience?
Popeye is so right! Popeye takes Descartes's method of skepticism and does not fall into Descartes's error of presuming the ego within cogito and sum.
The essence of I is life and the I /essence belongs to all creatures. Thanks for the input, Belinda. You clarified it for me as well!!
I am glad to help, and I nearly always agree with what you say and how you express your meaning. On this occasion I simply meant all Descartes could reasonably conclude was something was happening; D was in error to conclude what was happening was happening to Descartes, as the reality of Descartes was what was in question.
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Age wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:03 am
What is ALSO CLEAR here is that 'you' have CHOSEN a very appropriate username here, so that 'you' feel FREE to express WHATEVER 'you' want, and CLAIM to be true, while also holding some BELIEF that 'you' should NOT be questioned NOR challenged over YOUR CLAIMS.

The life of every human is a continuous movement from conception to death, which did not begin even before that and does not end after that. Thoughts overlay the timeless transformational journey of life and create a mysterious illusion of numerous separate events of our earthly existence. Existential questions of all kinds find their spontaneous answer through the eternal irrefutable certainty of the timeless moment.

The ego is merely a claimer and not a doer.
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