All is energy / God is energy

[Walker]

My Unsolicited Advice ... To be crapped upon! to whom it may concern, ahem.


The airing of grievances should only be an annual ritual, not part of daily activity ... not part of daily consciousness.

Thus, Festivus was created.

Festivus, The Airing of Grievances, aka, The Crapping Holiday. 'Tis the time of year to crap upon, and to be crapped upon.

Learn it, love it, live it ... once a year, then stick a cork in the whiny pie hole and get on with the philosophizing.

[Lacewing]

Learn it, love it, live it ... once a year, then stick a cork in the whiny pie hole and get on with the philosophizing.

I suggest you take your own advice.

And maybe take another read-through of what Age talks about to see if it applies to him as well.

Okay, moving on.

[Walker]

Okay, moving on.

That's funny, Age, since you rarely talk about the topics -- rather you claim what people are believing and you tell them how wrong they are. So go ahead... see if you can talk about topics without talking ABOUT "another".

The onus is on you, 'cause you just had to gossip.

Well, let's see, I started the topic and I have talked about it repeatedly.

Are you going to contribute anything else?

Since it's ignored where it sits, and since it was partially spawned by this thread, we will move it over to here, to give you another chance at perceiving something other than crap in your world.

Here the content may get some examination now that everyone has changed their ways and stopped gossiping, after being enlightened by Age with the truth that gossip is inappropriate when men are part of the discussion.

Note: direct your enquiries concerning content, inward, then share your answers if you must, because I already fixed it up, and it doesn’t need any more fixin’ up.

Stream of Consciousness Energy
You are a compendium of qualities organized into a continuity of identity, a continuity which is defended by a separate sense of self and called “I,” an identity which in fact could be an interlocutor inhabiting consciousness with thought. However, we don’t know for sure because that’s an inference. It’s an inference because identity is so intertwined with consciousness, so inseparable with our ordering of the world, and because of identity folks may even sacrifice the body while protecting the arbitrary and temporal thought of identity, that the identification of what “I” represents in reality can confound the intellect with self-referential, circular reasoning. Thus, the advantage of non-conceptual meditation that leads to the stilling of mind, once the sensory gates have been closed via pratyahara. First close the portals to sensory motion, then the mind follows. Separation of intellectual associations and emotions from energy leaves awareness stripped of those adornments and fluid to the situation presented by elemental forces. This is the root reason why Thoreau noticed, upon self-reflection, that he could easily devour a woodchuck under the appropriate conditions, even though he was a pacifist.

Question: This time, Lacewing, are you going to contribute anything other than crap, in response?

[Lacewing]

Excerpts from Energy Medicine by Donna Eden:

"Numerous cultures describe a matrix of subtle energies that support, shape, and animate the physical body, often displaying intelligence that transcends human knowing.

Perhaps the most startling premise of energy medicine is that the body's energies are not only intelligent, but that you can engage them in intelligent dialogue that fosters your health.

The biologist Lewis Thomas beautifully expressed his awe at the capacity of a single cell to make intelligent choices in his classic book The Lives of a Cell."

If energy can make choices and communicate across the vast connected energy network, what are we missing when we insist that our brains are required for accomplishing anything worthwhile?

It also seems reasonable to consider that we can learn/remember to communicate with/across that network as well. Ancient cultures knew how to do this.

[Walker]

Question: This time, Lacewing, are you going to contribute anything other than crap, in response?

I see some clarification for Lacewing is in order.

Clarification:
Is your response concerning the content of my posting, which was directed specifically at you, going to be anything other than crap this time?

Or do you just have endless games, addressed to everyone in the universe?

[Walker]

Okay, moving on.

The onus is on you, 'cause you just had to gossip.

Well, let's see, I started the topic and I have talked about it repeatedly.

Are you going to contribute anything else?

Since it's ignored where it sits, and since it was partially spawned by this thread, we will move it over to here, to give you another chance at perceiving something other than crap in your world.

Here the content may get some examination now that everyone has changed their ways and stopped gossiping, after being enlightened by Age with the truth that gossip is inappropriate when men are part of the discussion.

Note: direct your enquiries concerning content, inward, then share your answers if you must, because I already fixed it up, and it doesn’t need any more fixin’ up.

Stream of Consciousness Energy
You are a compendium of qualities organized into a continuity of identity, a continuity which is defended by a separate sense of self and called “I,” an identity which in fact could be an interlocutor inhabiting consciousness with thought. However, we don’t know for sure because that’s an inference. It’s an inference because identity is so intertwined with consciousness, so inseparable with our ordering of the world, and because of identity folks may even sacrifice the body while protecting the arbitrary and temporal thought of identity, that the identification of what “I” represents in reality can confound the intellect with self-referential, circular reasoning. Thus, the advantage of non-conceptual meditation that leads to the stilling of mind, once the sensory gates have been closed via pratyahara. First close the portals to sensory motion, then the mind follows. Separation of intellectual associations and emotions from energy leaves awareness stripped of those adornments and fluid to the situation presented by elemental forces. This is the root reason why Thoreau noticed, upon self-reflection, that he could easily devour a woodchuck under the appropriate conditions, even though he was a pacifist.

Question: This time, Lacewing, are you going to contribute anything other than crap, in response?

[Walker]

Now, we shall move on, after the content of my postings have been ignored, and after the content of Age's postings have been ignored. Not back there did we move on, before the ignorant ignoring was noted ...

Movin' on down the line ...

[Lacewing]

are you going to contribute anything other than crap, in response?

I've already suggested that you ask your questions of yourself. No, I don't think that everything you say is crap. But sometimes you do say crap. We all may think that about each other from time to time. You're not currently saying anything I'm interested in responding to, okay? If you and Age are unable to talk about the topic, maybe you can find another thread more suitable to your tastes.

[Walker]

Somehow, you always ignore the topic, in favour of your gossip meat, which is talking about people.

If you and Age are unable to talk about the topic, maybe you can find another thread more suitable to your tastes.

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Here's what you should have noticed, instead of gossiping.

Stream of Consciousness Energy

You are a compendium of qualities organized into a continuity of identity, a continuity which is defended by a separate sense of self and called “I,” an identity which in fact could be an interlocutor inhabiting consciousness with thought. However, we don’t know for sure because that’s an inference. It’s an inference because identity is so intertwined with consciousness, so inseparable with our ordering of the world, and because of identity folks may even sacrifice the body while protecting the arbitrary and temporal thought of identity, that the identification of what “I” represents in reality can confound the intellect with self-referential, circular reasoning. Thus, the advantage of non-conceptual meditation that leads to the stilling of mind, once the sensory gates have been closed via pratyahara. First close the portals to sensory motion, then the mind follows. Separation of intellectual associations and emotions from energy leaves awareness stripped of those adornments and fluid to the situation presented by elemental forces. This is the root reason why Thoreau noticed, upon self-reflection, that he could easily devour a woodchuck under the appropriate conditions, even though he was a pacifist.

[Lacewing]

Somehow, you always ignore the topic, in favour of your gossip meat, which is talking about people.

[Walker]

I suggest you quit playing your silly gossip games, and get on with the topic.

Repeat, until you do.

If you are unable to talk about the topic, maybe you can find another thread more suitable to your tastes.

Here's what you should have noticed, instead of gossiping.

Stream of Consciousness Energy

You are a compendium of qualities organized into a continuity of identity, a continuity which is defended by a separate sense of self and called “I,” an identity which in fact could be an interlocutor inhabiting consciousness with thought. However, we don’t know for sure because that’s an inference. It’s an inference because identity is so intertwined with consciousness, so inseparable with our ordering of the world, and because of identity folks may even sacrifice the body while protecting the arbitrary and temporal thought of identity, that the identification of what “I” represents in reality can confound the intellect with self-referential, circular reasoning. Thus, the advantage of non-conceptual meditation that leads to the stilling of mind, once the sensory gates have been closed via pratyahara. First close the portals to sensory motion, then the mind follows. Separation of intellectual associations and emotions from energy leaves awareness stripped of those adornments and fluid to the situation presented by elemental forces. This is the root reason why Thoreau noticed, upon self-reflection, that he could easily devour a woodchuck under the appropriate conditions, even though he was a pacifist.

[Walker]

What would you call the genderless energy (unconvoluted by man) that pulses through every particle including your tea?

Energy.

So, no way of distinguishing the many kinds of energy we might be talking about? Even Eskimos have many different words for snow.

Sure, maybe "God' is the only other concept or word we can imagine or use!

I have distinguished two forms of energy within this thread, and introduced the topics.

1. The energy of Samsara (frustration).
2. The energy of SOC, in which I mentioned energy association with emotions and thoughts.

Both have been illustrated in the postings up to this point via the topical and pertinent, and aided by the postings of all participants.

Is there another pitch for strike three? Or is it back to the bullpen for more gossip?

[Walker]

Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj said that all any person can know for sure is, I Am. All else is inference.

Sounds good, but I think even 'I Am' is inference. Who is 'I', and what is 'Am'? Do we really know?

Inference in action.
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[Dontaskme]

I am ALWAYS HERE to HELP 'you' if 'you' are STILL STUCK and/or CONFUSED.

Ok, thanks Age...DAM is seeking more clarification from you Age

The 'human being' is a 'thing'.

The 'thing', 'human being', can and does know.

Prove it.

You cannot just say a ''thing'' knows things, over and over again as if by doing so, that makes the claim a proof.

Prove that a ''thing'' can know things.

Otherwise the claim that a ''thing'' can know things is just an erroneous BELIEF without evidence or substance.

If you cannot back up your claims with clear and concise evidence. Then your claim is invalid, null and void, and quite frankly, meaningless.

DAM awaits your proof.



And you do not need to put the word BEING after Human.

Being means ''existence'' completely different to the ''thing'' known as HUMAN

If you insist on saying ''human being'' then fine...we all know that to mean 'human existence' this is OBVIOUSLY KNOWN.

[attofishpi]

When, and if, this thread is LOOKED OVER (again) I wonder if 'more energy' was spent talking ABOUT 'me', then talking ABOUT the topic title: 'All is energy / God is energy'?

Well then, get a hobby or an actual life and stop spending all your time talking shite and ruining peoples threads.

POINT OUT WHERE I have, SUPPOSEDLY, talked "shite", and then we CAN LOOK and SEE if 'it' ACTUALLY IS, or NOT.

Do NOT just SAY, 'you talk shite' WITHOUT PROVING 'it'. Otherwise, I could, JUST AS EASILY and SIMPLY, also say, to 'you', for 'you' to 'get a hobby or an actual life and stop spending all of your time talking shite and ruining people threads', AS WELL.

As for 'ruining people's threads', do I, REALLY, have that much POWER of 'you' and 'your' threads?

Furthermore, some would say that talking ABOUT "another" and NOT talking ABOUT the topic title is ACTUALLY ruins the thread.

I was just QUESTIONING and CHALLENGING the CLAIMS made in relation to the topic title. So, ONCE MORE, I suggest that one has ACTUAL IRREFUTABLE Truth BEFORE they come into this forum SAYING and CLAIMING 'things'. Otherwise, EXPECT to being QUESTIONED and/or CHALLENGED.

You have just PROVED you talk shite...as in everything you just typed.