Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:17 am
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:50 pm
At what stage in the child's transition to adulthood exactly and precisely did the child identify that it was moving out of the not a pest stage of it's life into the pest stage of it's life.
Age wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:07 amNO child has EVER identified that 'it' was moving out of the non pest stage and into the pest stage.
So this claim of yours that children are not pests who transformed into pests have never observed that transition from being a 'not a pest' to being 'a pest' ?
And that there was no realisation that EVER took place where the adult knew it had left it's not a pest stage and entered it's pest stage, is that right?
NO.
Also, do you know if children know they are not pests, and do they know that the adult parents responsible for their upbringing are pests?[/quote]
'you', adults, did NOT even KNOW that 'you' were pests, so if children KNEW, or KNOW, then okay.
Also, I do NOT speak for ALL children as though ALL children think or KNOW the EXACT SAME things.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:17 am
And just supposing the children didn't know that adults were pests, not being pests themselves, then how would they know they are transitioning into the adult pest stage of their life?
Who says or suggests that they would KNOW?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:17 am
How does a living sentient organism known as a human being transition from not being a pest to being a pest, is there an exact cut off point where the pestless child is no longer a pestless child but is now a pest?
YES.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:17 am
at what point does the switch in knowing the concept of ''pest'' become known, and to whom, the child or child that is no longer a child but is now an adult?
At the point of 'knowing'.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:17 am
After all, the child and the adult are always the same one entity throughout the duration of it's entire life from cradle to grave.
Are they, REALLY?
If yes, then who and/or what is that one 'entity', EXACTLY?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:17 am
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:50 pm When exactly did the child along it's transformation into an adult stop being a not a pest by transforming itself into a pest?
Age wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:07 amAGAIN, you say this like it is ALL the responsibility of the child.
There is NO wonder WHY 'you', adult human beings, have causes SO MUCH MESS and continuing to create SO MUCH MORE.
As an adult it is your responsibilty to make yourself undertood. I did not imply anything of the sort that would suggest it was ALL the responsibility of the child.
Just LOOK AT your OWN words above. They REVEAL and SHOW otherwise. Just about all of them are ABOUT 'children', and what they think or know.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:17 am
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:50 pm
Was the actual transition of the not a pest to the pest observable to the child or the adult?
Age wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:07 amThe transition, obviously, had NOT YET been observed by EITHER, that is; back in the days when this was being written.
Forget the back in the days when this was being written. Think about right NOW
REMEMBER what you wrote HERE.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:17 am
Right now, tell us . . is the transition from the (pestless child) to the (pest adult) observed and realised by either one of this same one conscious entity?
That all depends.
Do 'you', the one known as "dontaskme", HERE, REALIZE that 'you' are the ONLY True and REAL pest on earth?
Answer that Honestly, then 'you' WILL KNOW the answer to 'your' OWN question.
'you' are just one continuous entity, correct?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:17 am
and can you tell us, at what exact time along the aging process does this transition from 'no pest' - 'to pest' take place precisely?
YES.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:17 am
Age wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:07 amBut what is observed here, ONCE AGAIN, is that you have some PRESUMPTION that children are responsible in some way. Which is just absolutely TOTALLY ABSURD to say the least.
But I never once placed a PRESUMPTION that children are responsible in some way......you did...not me.
Just LOOK AT 'your' OWN words above.
And, LOL WHEN have I EVER made ABSOLUTELY ANY comment AT ALL, which could be taken as though I was placing ABSOLUTELY ANY responsibility onto children?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:17 am
Also, is it known in your opinion that a child should be made aware that the adults in society are pests, and should the child be told it is not a pest, and that only adults are pests?
There are NO 'shoulds' in my opinion.
But, the 'world' 'would' be a MUCH BETTER PLACE 'now';
IF children are made aware that the POLLUTION that adults ARE creating, in the days when this is being written, is causing the MESS in the 'world' 'today'. And,
IF children are made aware that they are NOT pests, but the MESS made of the 'world', in the days when this is being, is caused by the one and ONLY True pest, on earth, which is; adult human beings.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:17 am
Should this be taught to children? should adult pests be teaching children?
The 'world' would ALREADY be a MUCH BETTER PLACE, to live, if adults HAD PREVIOUSLY just taught children that adults are pests, and that children are NOT.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:17 am
Should children be made aware by the pests that unless they do good and right in life, they too will become pests just like their teachers?
But, 'you', pests, or adult human beings, HAVE BEEN "teaching" and TELLING children;
'Unless you do good and right in Life, there WILL BE consequences.'
But this has NOT worked SO FAR. Even the THREAT of 'Unless you do good and right in life there will be eternal life in hell', does NOT work.
So, what 'you', human beings, NEED to be made AWARE OF, which Truly works, and which is Truly GOOD for ALL of 'you', is YET to be FULLY learned and understood, by 'you', human beings.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:17 am
And should children be taught that it is ok to error and do wrong and make mistakes in life,
Well since making errors and mistakes is completely and utterly NORMAL and NATURAL, then what is taught regarding this would be EXTREMELY OBVIOUS, correct?
Would you teach a children that it is okay to make errors and to make mistakes?
But doing Wrong is NOT necessarily NORMAL, NOR NATURAL, AT ALL. So, what is taught regarding this would be just AS OBVIOUS, right?
Would you teach a children that it is okay to do what is wrong in Life?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:17 am
or will that make them a pest?
Will 'what' make them a pest?
Had you ALREADY PRESUMED what my answer/s were going to be?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:17 am
and if not because they did not know any better, then at what point in their life do they become faultless, capable of making no mistakes or errors or any wrong doings, and that everything they do do is always good and the right thing to do?
'you' have conflated here that it would be IMPOSSIBLE to answer this sufficiently here.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:17 am
Remembering that this living sentient human being is always throughout the entire duration of it's life, the same one conscious entity observing itself?
WHY are you TELLING me to remember some thing, (which, by the way is NOT YET a proved Fact), but putting a question mark at the end of YOUR statement and claim here?
Also, have you NOT been TELLING 'us' that it is IMPOSSIBLE for the 'self' to SEE, and thus observe, "itself"?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:17 am
And that the apparent separation, split or divide from childhood to adulthood is completely illusory.
There is NO 'separation' here. HOWEVER, to be able to EXPLAIN, and to be UNDERSTOOD, SUFFICIENTLY, ALL-OF-THIS, then a 'separation of sorts' from 'children' to 'adults' NEEDS to be understood and accepted FIRST.