Reincarnation

[Walker]

I don't want the role of guiding DAM.

I don't blame you. Sheesh. And to think that in a previous life, as they say, she once had bright eyes, a bushy tail*, and fresh, clean diapers.

* An idiom for energetic.

[Walker]

Mean and nasty things ...

No one said it was a female elephant.

[attofishpi]

btw re Matthew 25:46...you are using an EVANGELIST tactic...it is not non-believers but the non-righteous that are being condemned - poor interpretation similar to what preaching fuckwit evandegists do:-

It wasn't meant to be a tactic at all. It was simply a quote on quote. To show people what other people are believing.

Who cares what idiot "Christians" believe.

Matthew 25:46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

(and eternal punishment could be anything - reincarnate animal - dead for eternity etc..)

Aside from the 'dead for eternity' idea goes, I'm all in for that idea, if only that was possible, I'd choose dead for eternity over life anytime.

Yes, I have stated that to God re myself many times. However, hanging out with sages and Christ on Earth (heaven) for a very very very long time sounds like fun.

But the idea of eternal punishment sounds more like what reincarnation would actually signify, because to be born is to be subject to suffering as an unavoidable part of what it means to be a sentient living life form with a nervous system, and so as long as there is sentience there will be the rebirth of pain and suffering reincarnating over and over again. That to me, seems like the only valid and logical meaning we could apply to the word ''reincarnation'' as far as I can understand.
But then in the 'dead for eternity' idea, that sounds more like what heaven would be like, well for me personally anyway, where there will be a permanent cessation of suffering and pain that seems intent to rebirth itself on earth over and over again. And so that 'dead for eternity' idea might even be what paradise is, well for me personally it would. I mean what else could paradise be exactly? but the absence of all pain and suffering on earth forever.

I'm such a deep thinker on these matters.

Not really. U haven't bothered to consider such a thing as living, loving, being surrounded by caring people such as sages and Christ for a very very long time..not good enough for you?

Look, I've had an extremely difficult life since 1997, due to God testing me extremely. But surely, your life has not been so bad that you would like never to exist again? Y? - you even have family.

Of course it is. Your 'soul' is you point of view within life. It traverses forward in time throught living flesh, being reborn according to the karma - how you have behaved\conducted yourself\contemplated life etc...

But this is all simply human story telling, made up of pure conjecture and speculation, there is no actual proof of these ideas as being an actual literal reality experienced by a human being. This idea, that we are reborn according to our karma only popped up recently in comparison to the idea that the universe is 13.8 billion years old...

Well, the night the sage introduced himself to me from the aether i was informed of such matters re karmic reincarnation (Nov 2005). Since I knew God to exist since 1997, and the extent of it being throughout my entire being - all that makes up my matter I have no reason to do_u_bt my sage.

Then what about the time dinosaurs roamed the earth for millions of years. Heck, where was our soul then....where did it reside, where did it exist, did it ever exist? or did it just pop-up one day when the opportunity, conditions and timing arose for it to do so. Or was it just down to the pure luck and chance thanks to that huge big rock that smashed into the planet wiping out a species that roamed the planet for eons. It's all very random isn't it, one minute there's these huge monster looking creatures, then along comes cute little bunny rabbits and lambs and kittens, and then humans. All of which might never have happened if not for that rock smashing into the earth, we might never have existed ever, ever ever, at all, imagine that.

I know, perplexing and wonderful isn't it..

And that according to you attofishpi is what God is? ...is that right?

I have no idea what you are talking about. Are you suggesting I think I am God? - I am a part of IT as U are.

You said earlier that you thought God as being this...... Consider it the CPU operating at sub-atomic matter.

And then there is this >

Then God said, “Let us make human beings in our image, to be like us. They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth, and the small animals that scurry along the ground.” So God created human beings in his own image.


Why does God not make any sense atto?

How about this consideration, you would not be able to sense if God did not exist - running all matter including your brain in real-time enabling you to have consciousness.

[Dontaskme]

I don't want the role of guiding DAM.

I don't blame you. Sheesh. And to think that in a previous life, as they say, she once had bright eyes, a bushy tail*, and fresh, clean diapers.

* An idiom for energetic.

Having fun making fun again, it’s what you do best. Do continue; I know you will, you can’t help helping yourself to a bit of fun at the expense of DAM

[Dontaskme]

Mean and nasty things ...

No one said it was a female elephant.

Ooops, there you go again. Making sure to rub it in real good and proper.

It’s your kind of excitement baiting people for a mean and nasty reaction I guess. Not enough just to bait; but you get double the thrill to revel in the reaction, I guess the double kick for you is just too irresistible.

[Dontaskme]

Not really. U haven't bothered to consider such a thing as living, loving, being surrounded by caring people such as sages and Christ for a very very long time..not good enough for you?

Life is not for everyone.

I hate being alive. I’ve hated life all my life. I’m relieved to know I’m nearly at the end of my life.

If people enjoy life I’m happy for them. But I hate it. I have never gotten any pleasure from life at all. Quite the opposite really, life has been nothing but pain and suffering, misery and confusion for me. I’ve just pretended to like it for the sake of those who do enjoy living. I’ve endured life because it’s what’s been expected of me.

Look, I've had an extremely difficult life since 1997, due to God testing me extremely. But surely, your life has not been so bad that you would like never to exist again? Y?

I would rather have never been born. The unborn are the lucky ones. I don’t like most humans very much; they can be dangerous dark and devious and liars. Some are ok, but I trust no one, which is sad. And is why I shouldn’t be born, I do not feel comfortable being alive. It’s a very nerve wracking experience and it scares me the thought of being killed or tortured.

I hate the idea of being a feeling sentient being who can experience excruciating pain both physically and emotionally. I cry a lot. Sometimes uncontrollably and I cannot stop it when the tears want to flow. The thought of reincarnation scares me to death. I hate the idea of having to live life over and over and over again. I feel so broken and lost being alive. The only time I feel good is when I am asleep.

I post on this forum because I have nothing else to do. It passes the time, until I am no more.

[attofishpi]

Not really. U haven't bothered to consider such a thing as living, loving, being surrounded by caring people such as sages and Christ for a very very long time..not good enough for you?

Life is not for everyone.

I hate being alive. I’ve hated life all my life. I’m relived to know I’m nearly at the end of my life.

If people enjoy life I’m happy for them. But I hate it. I have never gotten any pleasure from life at all. Quite the opposite really, life has been nothing but pain and suffering, misery and confusion for me. I’ve just pretended to like it for the sake of those who do enjoy living. I’ve endured life because it’s what’s been expected of me.

Look, I've had an extremely difficult life since 1997, due to God testing me extremely. But surely, your life has not been so bad that you would like never to exist again? Y?

I would rather have never been born. The unborn are the lucky ones. I don’t like most humans very much; they can be dangerous dark and devious and liars. Some are ok, but I trust no one, which is sad. And is why I shouldn’t be born, I do not feel comfortable being alive. It’s a very nerve wracking experience and it scares me the thought of being killed or tortured.

I hate the idea of being a feeling sentient being who can experience excruciating pain both physically and emotionally. I cry a lot. Sometimes uncontrollably and I cannot stop it when the tears want to flow. The thought of reincarnation scares me to death. I hate the idea of having to live life over and over and over again. I feel so broken and lost being alive. The only time I feel good is when I am asleep.

I post on this forum because I have nothing else to do. It passes the time, until I am no more.

Well it saddens me to read the above.

I know you do dwell on considerations on the nasty side of life - such as animal suffering. A zebra being torn apart by a pack of lions you mentioned. Well, from my experience of God I don't believe everything that we witness is the truth as to what is actually happening, in fact I would not be surprised if >90% of what we 'see' 'hear' is bollocks.
The night that God had me bashed with a baseball bat (that morning I heard "tonight bad luck" as I climbed out of bed) - I had a fractured arm, pins and wires in my not so funny bone..I didn't have any decent pain killers (a screw up with my prescription) - I was in agony that night, indeed crying from the pain.
I decided to say a prayer (since I knew by this stage that God exists as ALL matter), I asked for the pain to go. The reply "Would you like me to erase that." to which I said yes of course. ALL the pain dissapeared, it was such a relief...but then about 10 mins later, the pain started to return and the voice said "Do you understand?" - I replied "No I fucking don't, get rid of the pain!!"

Anyway. Fact is that God can "erase pain"..it can zip souls out of their suffering prior to being torn apart by Earthquakes, Lions etc...so don't waste your time concentrating on what you perceive as the horrid side of life, and indeed, hating God (if there was one). Even though God made me suffer more than anyone I know, (I actually thought I may have been Hitler in a prev life!) I am glad that IT exists since I know it can alleviate suffering, and not all that we perceive is really happening to humans\animals etc..

..so, do as I do...Always Look on the Bright Side of Life
https://youtu.be/SJUhlRoBL8M

ps. I don't know Y God insists on leaving us with so much doubt.

[Dontaskme]

I hate it when people say — always look on the bright side of life

I don’t want to be alive period, full stop. There’s no bright side, even if there was it is only for a fleeting moment before it’s dark again. Everything good just passes away. And all there seems to be left is just emptiness and aloneness. Mostly nothingness.


I’m just so done. I’m done playing this stupid game called human life that is almost an insult to my intelligence.

I’m no longer pretending or trying to convince myself that life is or was ever worth living. I’ve given myself permission to hate being alive. I’ve also given myself permission to feel broken and numb to the world I am forced to live day after day after day doing the same thing over and over again. A hamster wheel of a life.

I feel like I’m stuck inside a horror movie forever trapped with no way out ever. I just want to go to sleep forever and never wake up ever again.

[attofishpi]

I hate it when people say — always look on the bright side of life

I don’t want to be alive period, full stop. There’s no bright side, even if there was it is only for a fleeting moment before it’s dark again. Everything good just passes away. And all there seems to be left is just emptiness and aloneness. Mostly nothingness.


I’m just so done. I’m done playing this stupid game called human life that is almost an insult to my intelligence.

I’m no longer pretending or trying to convince myself that life is or was ever worth living. I’ve given myself permission to hate being alive. I’ve also given myself permission to feel broken and numb to the world I am forced to live day after day after day doing the same thing over and over again. A hamster wheel of a life.

I feel like I’m stuck inside a horror movie forever trapped with no way out ever. I just want to go to sleep forever and never wake up ever again.

Well. You've really made my day. You've got family, don't they make you happy to be alive?

[Iwannaplato]

I hate it when people say — always look on the bright side of life

I don’t want to be alive period, full stop. There’s no bright side, even if there was it is only for a fleeting moment before it’s dark again. Everything good just passes away. And all there seems to be left is just emptiness and aloneness. Mostly nothingness.


I’m just so done. I’m done playing this stupid game called human life that is almost an insult to my intelligence.

I’m no longer pretending or trying to convince myself that life is or was ever worth living. I’ve given myself permission to hate being alive. I’ve also given myself permission to feel broken and numb to the world I am forced to live day after day after day doing the same thing over and over again. A hamster wheel of a life.

I feel like I’m stuck inside a horror movie forever trapped with no way out ever. I just want to go to sleep forever and never wake up ever again.

Why would he be [would you be] upset about the inevitable part of being alive?

[attofishpi]

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You stated you are not Christian but a theist. What do you believe in relation to God(s)?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I hate it when people say — always look on the bright side of life

I don’t want to be alive period, full stop. There’s no bright side, even if there was it is only for a fleeting moment before it’s dark again. Everything good just passes away. And all there seems to be left is just emptiness and aloneness. Mostly nothingness.


I’m just so done. I’m done playing this stupid game called human life that is almost an insult to my intelligence.

I’m no longer pretending or trying to convince myself that life is or was ever worth living. I’ve given myself permission to hate being alive. I’ve also given myself permission to feel broken and numb to the world I am forced to live day after day after day doing the same thing over and over again. A hamster wheel of a life.

I feel like I’m stuck inside a horror movie forever trapped with no way out ever. I just want to go to sleep forever and never wake up ever again.

I love your honesty. Some people get really offended when others don't lust for life the way they do. Well they can really just go fuck themselves. It's none of their business. There should be lovely, pristine clinics you can go to when you've had enough of this bullshit. Clinics that are full of the best psychedlic drugs where you can go off blissfully into a beautiful fractal universe

[Lacewing]

I hate it when people say — always look on the bright side of life

I don’t want to be alive period, full stop. There’s no bright side, even if there was it is only for a fleeting moment before it’s dark again. Everything good just passes away. And all there seems to be left is just emptiness and aloneness. Mostly nothingness.

I’m just so done. I’m done playing this stupid game called human life that is almost an insult to my intelligence.

I’m no longer pretending or trying to convince myself that life is or was ever worth living. I’ve given myself permission to hate being alive. I’ve also given myself permission to feel broken and numb to the world I am forced to live day after day after day doing the same thing over and over again. A hamster wheel of a life.

I feel like I’m stuck inside a horror movie forever trapped with no way out ever. I just want to go to sleep forever and never wake up ever again.

But if you weren't alive, you couldn't thrash back and forth between hate and love dramatically, which is clearly how you roll rather than playing a completely different game with your energy. Do you have any other capability you haven't explored yet?

[Lacewing]

There should be lovely, pristine clinics you can go to when you've had enough of this bullshit. Clinics that are full of the best psychedlic drugs where you can go off blissfully into a beautiful fractal universe

I agree! We should be able to step out pleasantly when we're done.

Also, maybe if it was easy, people would appreciate and explore their life's potential more.

[Walker]

There should be lovely, pristine clinics you can go to when you've had enough of this bullshit. Clinics that are full of the best psychedlic drugs where you can go off blissfully into a beautiful fractal universe

I agree! We should be able to step out pleasantly when we're done.

Also, maybe if it was easy, people would appreciate and explore their life's potential more.

They would probably just explore the pleasantries, until the exploration became unpleasant.