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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:15 am
attofishpi wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:05 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:45 am So now, give us a rational reason to join you in believing in reincarnationism -- and not believing, instead, in any of those other views.
Nah...
The obvious conclusion? You can't.

So you believe in something for which you have no evidence and no rationale. Interesting.
LOL

This said coming from the one who BELIEVES that God is a male gendered person or thing, of which there is obviously absolutely NO evidence for and absolutely NO rationale for. 'Interesting', as some might say.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:48 pm When Lacewing disappears for extended periods I assume she has translated to a higher plane . . . (but then she comes back and beats on me!)
:lol:

Although there are interesting and entertaining things that can play out here, too much of it is like being stuck in a loop of playing an insane whack-a-mole game. I like to take a break to see (and do things) beyond the confines of this forum. You are right, though, that I don't want to be too 'evil'... and discussions here might tempt that. So, I step away until I can come back and play nicer for a little while.
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Re: Christianity

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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:45 am
attofishpi wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:22 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:10 am
It's right above. Nobody's erased it.
A LIAR and a COWARD.
Ad hominem...of course... and totally evasive of a very simple question: what rational evidence do you have to support reincarnationism?
This is PART of what you erased, deal with it:

Think about this, if everyone is born into their current life right now as their first incarnation upon the Earth - is it fair that you were born into your upbringing (in Canada?) whereas some are born into absolute dire poverty and do not have the moral guidance that you have received and yet, according to your faith, will be judged by their actions equally as you.
Okay, but it's really not worth dealing with, because it has nothing to do with the reasons for your own belief. Nothing in this question provides even one stitch of evidence for reincarnationism.
It is more reasonable by way of a fair play God that we are reincarnated into families that we deserve until a final judgment.

So.

Where is YOUR evidence pertaining to God in your belief that humans are all born once upon the planet to later be judged, and how is that reasonable considering some are born into dire cicumstances?
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Re: Christianity

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attofishpi wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:27 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:45 am
attofishpi wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:22 am

A LIAR and a COWARD.
Ad hominem...of course... and totally evasive of a very simple question: what rational evidence do you have to support reincarnationism?
This is PART of what you erased, deal with it:

Think about this, if everyone is born into their current life right now as their first incarnation upon the Earth - is it fair that you were born into your upbringing (in Canada?) whereas some are born into absolute dire poverty and do not have the moral guidance that you have received and yet, according to your faith, will be judged by their actions equally as you.
Okay, but it's really not worth dealing with, because it has nothing to do with the reasons for your own belief. Nothing in this question provides even one stitch of evidence for reincarnationism.
It is more reasonable...etc.
Again...must I remind you of the obvious fact that saying something you consider to be a criticism of somebody else doesn't do one thing to help the case for reincarnationism. :shock:

If your view has anything to it, let's see what it is. Cards on the table.

If you can't, then what are we to conclude?
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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:58 am
attofishpi wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:27 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:45 am
Ad hominem...of course... and totally evasive of a very simple question: what rational evidence do you have to support reincarnationism?


Okay, but it's really not worth dealing with, because it has nothing to do with the reasons for your own belief. Nothing in this question provides even one stitch of evidence for reincarnationism.
It is more reasonable...etc.
Again...must I remind you of the obvious fact that saying something you consider to be a criticism of somebody else doesn't do one thing to help the case for reincarnationism. :shock:

If your view has anything to it, let's see what it is. Cards on the table.

If you can't, then what are we to conclude?
Again. We are supposedly being played with the same deck of cards, ergo, play your hand by the call u insist..that is where is YOUR evidence that all wo/men are here upon the Earth in their first and only incarnation to face judgement as if ALL had an equal affair in the matter?
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attofishpi wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:02 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:58 am
attofishpi wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:27 am

It is more reasonable...etc.
Again...must I remind you of the obvious fact that saying something you consider to be a criticism of somebody else doesn't do one thing to help the case for reincarnationism. :shock:

If your view has anything to it, let's see what it is. Cards on the table.

If you can't, then what are we to conclude?
Again. We are supposedly being played with the same deck of cards, ergo, play your hand by the call u insist..that is where is YOUR evidence that all wo/men are here upon the Earth in their first and only incarnation to face judgement as if ALL had an equal affair in the matter?
I constantly present evidence and reasons for what I believe. I'm just asking you to do the same. It's your turn.

Unless you've got nothing...which seems to be the case.

How about this: can you even tell us what sort of a scientific test we could use that might validate the theory of reincarnation? What would you consider evidence, if such were even possible?
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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:18 am
attofishpi wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:02 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:58 am
Again...must I remind you of the obvious fact that saying something you consider to be a criticism of somebody else doesn't do one thing to help the case for reincarnationism. :shock:

If your view has anything to it, let's see what it is. Cards on the table.

If you can't, then what are we to conclude?
Again. We are supposedly being played with the same deck of cards, ergo, play your hand by the call u insist..that is where is YOUR evidence that all wo/men are here upon the Earth in their first and only incarnation to face judgement as if ALL had an equal affair in the matter?
I constantly present evidence..
No, as everyone keeps pointing out to you..you have zero evidence.
What is your evidence then that all wo/men are here upon the Earth in their first and only incarnation to face judgement as if ALL had an equal affair in the matter?
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attofishpi wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:27 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:45 am
attofishpi wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:22 am

A LIAR and a COWARD.
Ad hominem...of course... and totally evasive of a very simple question: what rational evidence do you have to support reincarnationism?
This is PART of what you erased, deal with it:

Think about this, if everyone is born into their current life right now as their first incarnation upon the Earth - is it fair that you were born into your upbringing (in Canada?) whereas some are born into absolute dire poverty and do not have the moral guidance that you have received and yet, according to your faith, will be judged by their actions equally as you.
Okay, but it's really not worth dealing with, because it has nothing to do with the reasons for your own belief. Nothing in this question provides even one stitch of evidence for reincarnationism.
It is more reasonable by way of a fair play God that we are reincarnated into families that we deserve until a final judgment.

So.

Where is YOUR evidence pertaining to God in your belief that humans are all born once upon the planet to later be judged, and how is that reasonable considering some are born into dire cicumstances?
Where is YOUR explanation pertaining to HOW it could be possible to be reincarnated and the population INCREASE in numbers?
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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:18 am
attofishpi wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:02 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:58 am
Again...must I remind you of the obvious fact that saying something you consider to be a criticism of somebody else doesn't do one thing to help the case for reincarnationism. :shock:

If your view has anything to it, let's see what it is. Cards on the table.

If you can't, then what are we to conclude?
Again. We are supposedly being played with the same deck of cards, ergo, play your hand by the call u insist..that is where is YOUR evidence that all wo/men are here upon the Earth in their first and only incarnation to face judgement as if ALL had an equal affair in the matter?
I constantly present evidence and reasons for what I believe.
But NOT when I challenge you.

When I challenge you, you run away and hide.
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:18 am I'm just asking you to do the same. It's your turn.

Unless you've got nothing...which seems to be the case.

How about this: can you even tell us what sort of a scientific test we could use that might validate the theory of reincarnation? What would you consider evidence, if such were even possible?
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Age wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:37 amWhere is YOUR explanation pertaining to HOW it could be possible to be reincarnated and the population INCREASE in numbers?
How is that a problem for you? Consider that ALL humans from their past existence, give or take a billion or so, are here among us now.
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attofishpi wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:18 am
Age wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:37 amWhere is YOUR explanation pertaining to HOW it could be possible to be reincarnated and the population INCREASE in numbers?
How is that a problem for you?
But it is NOT a problem for me.

It is a problem for you, and thus YOUR problem.
attofishpi wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:18 am Consider that ALL humans from their past existence, give or take a billion or so, are here among us now.
But you are OBVIOUSLY MISSING or MISUNDERSTANDING the question posed, to you, here.

If it is only previous people who are reincarnated into 'new' families, then, obviously, 'bigger' families, which involve 'more' people than previously existed, could NOT even begin.

Unless, of course, you can explain this obvious inconsistency, sufficiently enough.
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Age wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:54 am If it is only previous people who are reincarnated into 'new' families, then, obviously, 'bigger' families, which involve 'more' people than previously existed, could NOT even begin.
Oh ye of great stupidity that I usually ignore. I did not state that it is ONLY previous people that are reincarnated. Truly, reincarnation does not explain the first existence of a soul. ffs.
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attofishpi wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:07 am
Age wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:54 am If it is only previous people who are reincarnated into 'new' families, then, obviously, 'bigger' families, which involve 'more' people than previously existed, could NOT even begin.
Oh ye of great stupidity that I usually ignore. I did not state that it is ONLY previous people that are reincarnated.
Talk about STUPIDITY here. I NEVER even alluded to that it is "ONLY previous people that are reincarnated".

You said, 'we' (whatever that means to you) are reincarnated into families that 'we' deserve until a final judgment.

So,

Firstly, what does the 'we' word refer to, EXACTLY, in this sentence, of YOURS?

Secondly, if the 'we' word in that sentence refers to people, then my question stands.

If, however, the 'we' word, in YOUR sentence, does NOT refer to 'people', then what does the 'we' word, in YOUR sentence, refer to, EXACTLY?
attofishpi wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:07 am Truly, reincarnation does not explain the first existence of a soul. ffs.
WHY bring NEW words in here now? Especially when you have OBVIOUSLY NOT YET EXPLAINED your previous words. Also, I NEVER even mentioned absolutely ANY thing about 'souls' NOR 'first existence'.

LOOK, you want to come here and CLAIM that 'reincarnation' is thee Truth here.

NOW, it is OBVIOUS that 'reincarnation' EXISTS. But, ONLY when one KNOWS HOW, EXACTLY, are they then ABLE to EXPLAIN 'reincarnation' in an IRREFUTABLE WAY.

'you', "attofishpi", are VERY FAR from this WAY, YET.
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Age wrote:...bla bla bla..
May I suggest you stick to your biggest decision of each day, which is WHAT side of the bed should you crawl your pathetic arse out of.
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If there's a Yahweh. Then now would be a great time to strike down both Biden and Putin. Maybe that will end this insanity.
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