Ukraine Crisis

[promethean75]

"and perhaps some of you may understand fully what is really happening."

a politician will tell you anything to keep his job of not having a job and being perfectly useless to the people he governs.

show me a 'leader' who hasn't ever delivered such a 'profound speech' and I'll show you a guy honest and trustworthy enough to be a 'leader'.

fuck dude i could write a speech right now and if somebody told you julius caesar wrote it, you'd be all like ohhhh ewwww ahhhh!

Editor's note: removed rude and uncecessary content.

[promethean75]

Note to Russian soldiers. Oral sex (blow job) during battle is not advised as you could end up getting a blown job instead.

[reasonvemotion]

which one is it?

tldr or

you read the whole speech?

[promethean75]

tldr

any competent country would reject the the Eurasian Economic Union in favor of the European Union–Ukraine Association Agreement, any day. So there's that. and the violence against protestors at the Euromaidan incident is what really set off the Revolution of Dignity that forever after split Raasha and Ukraine.

what's so ironic tho is that if it weren't for the bolsheviks, the Ukraine people's republic wouldn't have been 'forcibly reconstituted' by the soviet republic and would have remained independent... in turn preventing Putin from being able to recognize it as part of Raasha.  

but keep in mind it wuz the collapse of the Soviet Union in 91 and the reclaimed independence of the country Ukraine now calling itself neutral and open to relations with NATO, etc., that pissed Putin off.

now r u questioning the legitimacy of the country itself and claiming that it belongs to Raasha, or r u aware of all this?

[promethean75]

and avoiding the eurasian economic union isn't even ideological. you do that outta principle because what r your long term economic gains from such a relationship? you wanna trade potassium with Kazakhstan for a hundred years? where's that gonna get you?

And that's exactly why raasha wants Ukraine so badly. The other what, five countries got shit to offer in an economic contract.

that whole union wuz and is just a front for an oligarchic raashan empire.

[reasonvemotion]

Never Underestimate the People You Are At War With

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-K_j2KcBX8

[promethean75]

JP's saying the obvious... that perhaps being dependent on raasha for oil might become a problem and precipitate an energy crisis should america pose sanctions. But oil is less of a problem than the thousands that are dying and the destruction being sowed because of this war.

And this war, in turn tho not exclusively, is being caused because of nationalistic and economic conflicts produced by conservative ideologues, of which JP is.

This is the best interview/convo with JP that I've ever heard.

https://youtu.be/jJTnbSQ-xNQ

[promethean75]

... and he's also worried about the modernization of European cities, structures and landscapes. Now what do you reckon threatens those things the most? Free market capitalists who want to build and produce as much as fast as possible to make profit? When they tear down those castles and put up Walmarts and McDonald's, don't doubt that you'll see JP at one of em. The guy's just full of hot air, Haus.

[reasonvemotion]

promethean75 wrote:

This is the best interview/convo with JP that I've ever heard.

https://youtu.be/jJTnbSQ-xNQ

Like Sam said....

"please judge for yourselves how we did

and what was going on there it's not

absolutely clear to me what we disagree

about please enjoy my conversation with

Jordan Peterson".......

[reasonvemotion]

promethean75 wrote:

When they tear down those castles and put up Walmarts and McDonald's, don't doubt that you'll see JP at one of em

Been shopping with Mom a lot lately?

[promethean75]

the miserable wretched cretin you refer to might as well be agoraphobic due to her irrational fear of everything now since the covid and the pox and the random shootings and all that bullshit.

but I'd not, nor never would i, willingly and by design, go shopping with such a deplorable creature as my old lady, whom, try as i might to move out with my record and credit (money's not a prob), i am forced to live with and suffer daily the paltry abhorrence of her insufferable character, her weakness of will, and the undeserved sense of vanity and entitlement she has, augmented even more by the vast disproportion of her intellect and talent to what she expects that she should deserve. 

i absolutely loathe her in ways that words cannot express, sir, just as my father and her second husband did.

tragically, as an only child, i singularly bear the burden of providing assistance where necessary to avoid having to give up the house to the old folks home that eventually takes her... if they eventually take her. her moderately wealthy sisters won't offer any help because they've all got unresolved sibling rivalries from childhood going on and refuse to give or receive help from each other. whole fam is dysfunctional.

i spend as little time as i can here and when i am here, we section off into our respective spaces in the dwelling, isolated from each other. the hapless wench is too dumb to talk to unless you're arguing with her.

my MO is the make sure this house doesn't have to get taken as an asset by an old folks home. i sell the house, pocket the profit after the reverse mortgage loan is paid off, and travel the world a man in his golden 50s-60s.

rarely do i shop tho. i just have jeff B deliver it to the house. 

[iambiguous]

Back to the Big Bold Headlines in the New York Times:

Putin Says ‘Mass Strike’ on Ukraine Is Revenge for Bridge Attack

Imagine how big this headline will be:

Putin Strikes Kyiv With Nuclear Bomb

Or maybe this one:

Putin Issues Ultimatum to West: Withdraw Support Or Risk Nuclear War

Let's synchronize our doomsday clocks.

[iambiguous]

From the Washington Post...

BRUSSELS — The string of strikes against Ukrainian cities and key infrastructure on Monday galvanized long-standing calls from the government to its allies for more sophisticated air defense systems and longer-range weapons.

The Russian attacks appeared to signal a significant escalation, raising pressure on the United States and other European countries that have been slow to provide Ukrainian forces with the most advanced weapons systems.

But while a chorus of U.S. and European leaders condemned the attacks and declared their continued support for Ukraine, it was not clear that they would accelerate or expand their deliveries as a result of the strikes.

In a Monday statement, President Biden condemned “the utter brutality” of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war. The latest attacks “killed and injured civilians and destroyed targets with no military purpose,” he said, and “only further reinforce our commitment to stand with the people of Ukraine for as long as it takes.”



Putin and Biden in the ultimate game of "chicken"?

Will it all finally come down to what each of these men think that the other man is thinking?

Some more fateful version of the Prisoner's Dilemma? What is the rational thing to do when you are not sure what the other thinks is the most rational thing to do?

Both men embracing belligerence in regard to the other...and the rest of us just not knowing who is or is not either bluffing or not bluffing.

[popeye1945]

Putin is not bluffing, the United States should remember the debt it owes to Russia and its peoples for saving their asses during world war two. The Monster German/Nazi war machine was crushed by Russia and chased all the way back to Berlin. Do you really think they are going to bow down now to the Monster American war machine. Remember Vietnam, victory to Russia and its peoples!!! Down with the American Empire!!

[Gary Childress]

Putin is not bluffing, the United States should remember the debt it owes to Russia and its peoples for saving their asses during world war two. The Monster German/Nazi war machine was crushed by Russia and chased all the way back to Berlin. Do you really think they are going to bow down now to the Monster American war machine. Remember Vietnam, victory to Russia and its peoples!!! Down with the American Empire!!

Good grief.