the queen is dead

[attofishpi]

Well.

So much for me singing "God save the Queen." every morning before my cup of tea.

I can't believe God didn't bother - we've got the bloody World Cup later this year!

Even the Sex Pistols got it wrong.

[henry quirk]

meh

You know you were weeping into your fruitloops when you heard it..

Yes, I wept in my cereal in exactly the same way I'll weep when you keel over.
which is to say: not at all

[iambiguous]

Again you misunderstand.

Thanks.

You know, coming from you.

You know, since you approach everything from one narrow direction, I gave you a gift. You're just begging for someone to claim that there is only one reaction so that you can jump on him/her. You're welcome.

Back again to this:

Huh?!!

I opened this thread with this post:

...philosophically or otherwise, is there a way to pin down how all rational men and women are obligated to react to [the Queen's death]?

Or, instead, will our individual reactions to it be predicated more on the existential trajectory of our lives? Some being indoctrinated as children and then accumulating personal experiences and relationships as adults that predispose them to be gladdened by it, or saddened by it, or to be completely indifferent to it.

And I've always made it abundantly clear there can be as many paths to reacting to Queen Elizabeth's life and death as there are people.

In fact, only those who insist that how they react to it here themselves is the one and the only true path are instead prime examples of a narrow frame of mind.

Hell, I'm even assuming that free will is the reality here.

Again, I can't help but wonder what's happened to you. The phyllo I engaged all those years ago when ILP was an actual philosophy venue never seemed as, well, shallow as the phyllo of late.

Unless of course I'm wrong.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

meh

You know you were weeping into your fruitloops when you heard it..

Yes, I wept in my cereal in exactly the same way I'll weep when you keel over.
which is to say: not at all

Weird thing to feel the need to 'share' with a stranger on the internet. Well, ok....

[henry quirk]

You know you were weeping into your fruitloops when you heard it..

Yes, I wept in my cereal in exactly the same way I'll weep when you keel over.
which is to say: not at all

Weird thing to feel the need to 'share' with a stranger on the internet. Well, ok....

Yes, your fruit loops comment was weird.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Yes, I wept in my cereal in exactly the same way I'll weep when you keel over.
which is to say: not at all

Weird thing to feel the need to 'share' with a stranger on the internet. Well, ok....

Yes, your fruit loops comment was weird.

It was an attempt at a joke. Not terribly successful, but who gives a fuck anyway.

[henry quirk]

These...

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...are jokes. I don't know what you were doin'.

[Immanuel Can]

You tell us what we should all be thinking and feeling now.

She was grand and regal. Hers was a hard job to do well, and she held up her end, I would estimate.

Whether others should feel the same, I'm not able to say.

Okay, so you are agreeing that your assessment of her is just your own personal opinion.

Are you having trouble reading? Could I maybe recommend an optician?

[henry quirk]

She was grand and regal. Hers was a hard job to do well, and she held up her end, I would estimate.

Whether others should feel the same, I'm not able to say.

Okay, so you are agreeing that your assessment of her is just your own personal opinion.

Are you having trouble reading? Could I maybe recommend an optician?

Sorry, Mannie, but you opened the door when you included...

You tell us what we should all be thinking and feeling now.

...in your post. Give biggy an inch and he begs for seven more.

[Immanuel Can]

Okay, so you are agreeing that your assessment of her is just your own personal opinion.

Are you having trouble reading? Could I maybe recommend an optician?

Sorry, Mannie, but you opened the door when you included...

You tell us what we should all be thinking and feeling now.

...in your post. Give biggy an inch and he begs for seven more.

Yeah, he just wants to spout his routine nonsense about the word he uses for everything and clearly doesn't understand.

I'm taking a pass on bothering.

[Impenitent]

Well.

So much for me singing "God save the Queen." every morning before my cup of tea.

I can't believe God didn't bother - we've got the bloody World Cup later this year!

Even the Sex Pistols got it wrong.

it wasn't wrong in it's time

-Imp

[iambiguous]

She was grand and regal. Hers was a hard job to do well, and she held up her end, I would estimate.

Whether others should feel the same, I'm not able to say.

Okay, so you are agreeing that your assessment of her is just your own personal opinion. That others may have completely different or negative opinions of her. That there is no intellectual or moral foundation that we can turn to -- religious or secular -- in order to determine how rational and virtuous men and women ought to react to her. Either in regard to her life or her death.

Kant and others like him are irrelevant here.

That, in other words, for all practical purposes, you're right from your side and they're right from theirs.

Glad to see you're finally coming around to seeing these things as I do.

On the other hand, we still need to work on the part where you come to recognize that your reaction to her life and death is rooted existentially in dasein...and not in, say, "How would Jesus react?"

Are you having trouble reading? Could I maybe recommend an optician?

I'm more than willing to allow others here to decide for themselves if my assessment of your admitting that you are unable to say if others ought to feel as you do about the queen is an indication that you are not able yourself to demonstrate that how you feel about her does in fact reflect the most rational assessment. Why you and your assumptions and not them and theirs?

And what about Jesus? Didn't you ask yourself how Christ Himself would have reacted? Isn't that what all righteous people are obligated to be asking themselves?

[Immanuel Can]

...themselves?

Not interested. Not even a little.

[iambiguous]

...themselves?

Not interested. Not even a little.

Absolutely shameless!!!

[Iwannaplato]

OK, I'll go out on a limb.
I think every rational person should react to her death with what they think and feel about her death.
And if your reaction is indifference, that also counts.
Any remaining traditional amazoians are not exempt.