Trump Derangement Syndrome

[attofishpi]

Did they have to be such arseholes about it?

I'm impressed. I knew it would touch a nerve, but still.

Imagine back in that time period - the 'elites' lets say that ran the show, right down to the powder monkeys - and from the top to the bottom, little comprehension of peoples from across the seas.

What nation from Europe would you have preferred, because at the time period - it was bound to be at least one of them (all I am saying lucky for the entire Commonwealth, that it was the British - not the Portuguese, Spanish, Danes etc..)

The British were interested in cataloguing flora\fauna etc...science was a key part of the colonisation, paralleled with settlement for people to live and have families.

Things would have been FAR worse under the Portuguese and Spanish (for the locals)

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Did they have to be such arseholes about it?

I'm impressed. I knew it would touch a nerve, but still.

Imagine back in that time period - the 'elites' lets say that ran the show, right down to the powder monkeys - and from the top to the bottom, little comprehension of peoples from across the seas.

What nation from Europe would you have preferred, because at the time period - it was bound to be at least one of them (all I am saying lucky for the entire Commonwealth, that it was the British - not the Portuguese, Spanish, Danes etc..)

The British were interested in cataloguing flora\fauna etc...science was a key part of the colonisation, paralleled with settlement for people to live and have families.

Things would have been FAR worse under the Portuguese and Spanish (for the locals)

And they are still at it, sending their thugs to murder people in the ME, wearing their stupid red poppies. They are still warmongers. Why does Northern Ireland even exist? It's an abomination. You think the Irish couldn't farm? Didn't have a thriving economy until the English deliberately destroyed it?
I couldn't care less about this piece of rock, although the genuinely indigenous aboriginals of Australia were treated appallingly--hunted because they weren't even considered to be human, fully exterminated in Tasmania...

[attofishpi]

Did they have to be such arseholes about it?

I'm impressed. I knew it would touch a nerve, but still.

Imagine back in that time period - the 'elites' lets say that ran the show, right down to the powder monkeys - and from the top to the bottom, little comprehension of peoples from across the seas.

What nation from Europe would you have preferred, because at the time period - it was bound to be at least one of them (all I am saying lucky for the entire Commonwealth, that it was the British - not the Portuguese, Spanish, Danes etc..)

The British were interested in cataloguing flora\fauna etc...science was a key part of the colonisation, paralleled with settlement for people to live and have families.

Things would have been FAR worse under the Portuguese and Spanish (for the locals)

And they are still at it, sending their thugs to murder people in the ME, wearing their stupid red poppies. They are still warmongers. Why does Northern Ireland even exist? It's an abomination. You think the Irish couldn't farm? Didn't have a thriving economy until the English deliberately destroyed it?
I couldn't care less about this piece of rock, although the genuinely indigenous aboriginals of Australia were treated appallingly--hunted because they weren't even considered to be human, fully exterminated in Tasmania...

Pfff. It's always been TRIBE v TRIBE - Y don't you move to the ME...as a woman, and support their effort - women are treated so well over there in 2022 ffs

Go ahead. U truly think the world is worse because of the British Empire? ...Great Britain made this world (now in modern times) a worthy place to live, and a force to be reckoned with.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I'm impressed. I knew it would touch a nerve, but still.

Imagine back in that time period - the 'elites' lets say that ran the show, right down to the powder monkeys - and from the top to the bottom, little comprehension of peoples from across the seas.

What nation from Europe would you have preferred, because at the time period - it was bound to be at least one of them (all I am saying lucky for the entire Commonwealth, that it was the British - not the Portuguese, Spanish, Danes etc..)

The British were interested in cataloguing flora\fauna etc...science was a key part of the colonisation, paralleled with settlement for people to live and have families.

Things would have been FAR worse under the Portuguese and Spanish (for the locals)

And they are still at it, sending their thugs to murder people in the ME, wearing their stupid red poppies. They are still warmongers. Why does Northern Ireland even exist? It's an abomination. You think the Irish couldn't farm? Didn't have a thriving economy until the English deliberately destroyed it?
I couldn't care less about this piece of rock, although the genuinely indigenous aboriginals of Australia were treated appallingly--hunted because they weren't even considered to be human, fully exterminated in Tasmania...

Pfff. It's always been TRIBE v TRIBE - Y don't you move to the ME...as a woman, and support their effort - women are treated so well over there in 2022 ffs

Go ahead. U truly think the world is worse because of the British Empire? ...Great Britain made this world (now in modern times) a worthy place to live, and a force to be reckoned with.

Why should I move to the ME? I can't have an opinion on what kuntries like England and the US are doing there? And why do YOU think those countries have gone backwards? Hmm? It's not exactly rocket science. 'Great' Great Britain has really 'advanced' the countries of the ME
It hasn't been 'tribe versus tribe' since, well, since we lived in tribes. That's hardly an excuse for attacking other countries. Plenty of countries manage to exist without attacking other countries.

[attofishpi]

And they are still at it, sending their thugs to murder people in the ME, wearing their stupid red poppies. They are still warmongers. Why does Northern Ireland even exist? It's an abomination. You think the Irish couldn't farm? Didn't have a thriving economy until the English deliberately destroyed it?
I couldn't care less about this piece of rock, although the genuinely indigenous aboriginals of Australia were treated appallingly--hunted because they weren't even considered to be human, fully exterminated in Tasmania...

Pfff. It's always been TRIBE v TRIBE - Y don't you move to the ME...as a woman, and support their effort - women are treated so well over there in 2022 ffs

Go ahead. U truly think the world is worse because of the British Empire? ...Great Britain made this world (now in modern times) a worthy place to live, and a force to be reckoned with.

Why should I move to the ME? I can't have an opinion on what kuntries like England and the US are doing there?

It's not what they're doing there, it's the fact that ISLAM likes Supreme leaders (dictatorships) - nobody can convince an entire populace of indoctrinated people that refuse to reform of anything that would ultimately benefit them (*and the world - it is a market economy).

And why do YOU think those countries have gone backwards? Hmm? It's not exactly rocket science. 'Great' Great Britain has really 'advanced' the countries of the ME
It hasn't been 'tribe versus tribe' since, well, since we lived in tribes. That's hardly an excuse for attacking other countries. Plenty of countries manage to exist without attacking other countries.

LMAO - they wouldn't even have a plane, a car, a tank or a gun without the West's technology (look up Boko Haram for pure ""Islamic"" hypocrisy)

Re your statement..because they haven't developed the fire power. Imagine ISLAM having dominated scientific development of firepower....ooooh...what a wonderful world one could imagine, so harmonious to women's rights and freedom of artistic expression.

Truly - you are either a hypocrite or so short of sight you don't see what humanity truly is and has always been. Finally, we are at a point where we can attempt to set legal rules to world conduct - BUT NO - stupid ****s that watch conspiracy shit of world domination think ANARCHY.

(ultimately allowing the likes of Putin and Xi Ping Pong to rule the world) - yep - we'll then see the test of the British Empire, it's Commonwealth (and its offspring USA) at that point.

...and YES, I am proud to wear a poppy - i fought as most that are reading this don't comprehend their right to be here in the free world that we fought for (life progresses in four dimensions - reincarnation - karma - we get what we hold true to)

[Belinda]

Veggy's pessimism regarding the British empire is morally and practically safer than the alternative.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Pfff. It's always been TRIBE v TRIBE - Y don't you move to the ME...as a woman, and support their effort - women are treated so well over there in 2022 ffs

Go ahead. U truly think the world is worse because of the British Empire? ...Great Britain made this world (now in modern times) a worthy place to live, and a force to be reckoned with.

Why should I move to the ME? I can't have an opinion on what kuntries like England and the US are doing there?

It's not what they're doing there, it's the fact that ISLAM likes Supreme leaders (dictatorships) - nobody can convince an entire populace of indoctrinated people that refuse to reform of anything that would ultimately benefit them (*and the world - it is a market economy).

And why do YOU think those countries have gone backwards? Hmm? It's not exactly rocket science. 'Great' Great Britain has really 'advanced' the countries of the ME
It hasn't been 'tribe versus tribe' since, well, since we lived in tribes. That's hardly an excuse for attacking other countries. Plenty of countries manage to exist without attacking other countries.

LMAO - they wouldn't even have a plane, a car, a tank or a gun without the West's technology (look up Boko Haram for pure ""Islamic"" hypocrisy)

Re your statement..because they haven't developed the fire power. Imagine ISLAM having dominated scientific development of firepower....ooooh...what a wonderful world one could imagine, so harmonious to women's rights and freedom of artistic expression.

Truly - you are either a hypocrite or so short of sight you don't see what humanity truly is and has always been. Finally, we are at a point where we can attempt to set legal rules to world conduct - BUT NO - stupid ****s that watch conspiracy shit of world domination think ANARCHY.

(ultimately allowing the likes of Putin and Xi Ping Pong to rule the world) - yep - we'll then see the test of the British Empire, it's Commonwealth (and its offspring USA) at that point.

...and YES, I am proud to wear a poppy - i fought as most that are reading this don't comprehend their right to be here in the free world that we fought for (life progresses in four dimensions - reincarnation - karma - we get what we hold true to)

Stupid pom.

[attofishpi]

Stupid Englishman.

I'm going to test your degree of certaintity of that, in time.

[commonsense]

What Smokin' Joe's handlers got, after the fact (too late to walk it back), is they aren't just pissn' on the MAGAs but on anybody who takes exception to progressivist thinkin'. It's not 73 million, it's 130 million plus.

Are those handlers naive, or are they pushin' for it?

Sheer incompetence and ignorance of cause and effect. Eggheads without life experience other than political machinations, all educated in the elite institutions so they view the world through the same filters, and respond to events through a shared response.

Hard to imagine that 81 million folks outside of the political elite think like these morons who would actually prefer the destruction of the United States to the presidency of Trump that was so beneficial to the country and the world. Smells fishy just on that basis, but I guess one can never underestimate the Trump Deranging effectiveness of propaganda on even those who are cautious about how and where they spend.

This might be a good place to outline the good Trump did.

[commonsense]

Sun = fire
Hill = earth
Lake = water
Sky = space
Wind = wind
Mirror = human
Orangutan = Trump

You see? It’s positively elemental, and deliberately, choicelessly so.

I'm rather dissapointed that you have compared an ape of far superior intelligence to Trump, to his level of stupidity.
(just because they share the same hair doo)

You may also be disappointed to know that altering the quotation is an example of both TDS, and truth sacrificed on the alter of narrative, despite the attempt at humour with childish spelling.

Walker, you may disagree with atto’s alteration, but it seems to me that he was at least trying to make your list of tautologies (?) more in line with the thread’s theme.

[Immanuel Can]

This might be a good place to outline the good Trump did.

Wall? Economy? Not COVID-panicking? ISIL? Not losing Afghanistan to terrorists? Not causing wars? Not taking bribes, or covering for a drug-addled son? Allowing oil to be pumped? Not having a supply-chain crisis? Suppressing CRT propagandizing in public schools? Keeping Iran and China on the back foot?

Just suggestions: if I were American, that's what I'd be inclined to think might be good.

[commonsense]

This might be a good place to outline the good Trump did.

Wall? Economy? Not COVID-panicking? ISIL? Not losing Afghanistan to terrorists? Not causing wars? Not taking bribes, or covering for a drug-addled son? Allowing oil to be pumped? Not having a supply-chain crisis? Suppressing CRT propagandizing in public schools? Keeping Iran and China on the back foot?

Just suggestions: if I were American, that's what I'd be inclined to think might be good.

I like your suggestions except he didn’t finish the Wall or get Mexico to pay for it. Also, Trump and many others didn’t panic over Covid, but I’m not sure whether those who didn’t panic weren’t going to do so anyway independent of his influence. But he did downplay Covid in order to prevent panic. He just didn’t keep enough Americans calm.

[Immanuel Can]

This might be a good place to outline the good Trump did.

Wall? Economy? Not COVID-panicking? ISIL? Not losing Afghanistan to terrorists? Not causing wars? Not taking bribes, or covering for a drug-addled son? Allowing oil to be pumped? Not having a supply-chain crisis? Suppressing CRT propagandizing in public schools? Keeping Iran and China on the back foot?

Just suggestions: if I were American, that's what I'd be inclined to think might be good.

I like your suggestions except he didn’t finish the Wall or get Mexico to pay for it.

I think you've got to give him credit for nearly doing so...he was only stopped because Biden wouldn't finish what he essentially had done, after they said it was an impossible task. And it's sure evident that not only America needed it, but also the desperate immigrants and the few who are actually fighting the cartels in Mexico needed him to succeed in giving the U.S. control of its own southern border.

Also, Trump and many others didn’t panic over Covid, but I’m not sure whether those who didn’t panic weren’t going to do so anyway independent of his influence.

They might have. You can't stop nervous Nellies from freaking out. I don't think that much matters, though.

What wouldn't have happened is ridiculous things like he lockdowns, obligatory innoculations and masking mandates. I think we might have expected something closer to the Florida response...which turned out to be the best possible, really. And the U.S. wouldn't have been so slow to identify the source of the virus and react, without all the nonsense from the Democrats about it not being a China virus, and not being from a lab, and the contrary suggestions all being racist, and so on (remember Pelosi wandering through Chinatown maskless, hugging people to prove that Trump was evil and she was virtuous?). There's really no question that the economy and the reaction to COVID was better under Trump, I would say.

That's the funny thing about Trump: everybody hates him as a person, and yet also loves almost everything he did. And with the Biden crew, they seem to excuse any number of monumental, spectacular, world-class failures and any number of sexual scandals, and just keep on believing, even when the insanity of the Left is in fullblown evidence.

From the sidelines, it's hard to understand. Something very weird happened when Trump went from being a Democrat to a Republican. For some reason, he became the Left's version of the Devil.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

This might be a good place to outline the good Trump did.

Wall? Economy? Not COVID-panicking? ISIL? Not losing Afghanistan to terrorists? Not causing wars? Not taking bribes, or covering for a drug-addled son? Allowing oil to be pumped? Not having a supply-chain crisis? Suppressing CRT propagandizing in public schools? Keeping Iran and China on the back foot?

Just suggestions: if I were American, that's what I'd be inclined to think might be good.

'Losing' Afghanistan? I wasn't aware that the US ever owned it. That's a pitiful sort of a list of 'achievements' for any leader. How do you know he didn't take any bribes? 'Not causing any wars'? Gee. That's good of him. That would be funny if it were not so tragic...

[Immanuel Can]

'Losing' Afghanistan? I wasn't aware that the US ever owned it.

Well, if you don't regard as letting rabid Islamists control the country, while handing them a ton of top-calls military equipment, then abandoning your allies to be bombed, tortured and killed, disgracing yourself in front of the international community and letting desperate locals fall from the winds of your plane as you leave, I guess Biden didn't "lose" anything. Point taken.

How do you know he didn't take any bribes?

Well, maybe he did...but we know he didn't take the alleged Russia bribes, and that "the Big Guy's" son took all kinds of perks from the Ukraine and China...all that's public knowledge now. So the bribes we know about area all on the Biden side. If you've got some proof on the other side, why not air it? Are you protecting Trump, now?