Exactly Where Am I?

[Age]

I suppose in some sense I seem to be located in my body. If my body is not near the computer, then I am not near the computer.

Suppose I am now looking at my computer screen. If I get up and walk away from the computer screen, into the kitchen, I am no longer near it. I would then be looking at the refrigerator (for the sake of argument). What would happen if, instead of getting up and walking to the kitchen, my brain was (successfully) surgically removed from the rest of my body and (successfully) surgically transplanted into another body with a pair of eyes attached to it that was pointed in the direction of the refrigerator? Would "I" then still (equally) be looking at the refrigerator? Would "I" feel the sensations that were running through the other body?

You are near the brain. What you experience is simulated by Mind using the state of your brain, your sensory system, etc.

What I truly wonder is; is there a particular part of my brain that "I" am in?

Learn, and thus KNOW, who and what 'I' am EXACTLY, then 'you' will also KNOW the answer to what is being wondered here.

In other words, suppose, instead of successfully transplanting my whole brain into the other body, what if a part of my brain was successfully transplanted into the other body?

'I' STILL REMAIN EXACTLY where 'I am'.

That is; WITH-IN EVERY 'thing'.

For the purpose of the thought experiment, suppose the other body has everything in it that was physically identical to me except for the fact that it is not "me" in it.

ONCE MORE, 'you' are claiming that 'you' or 'I' am 'the (physical) body'.

In other words, there are two identical bodies, me and my twin brother. One of us is in the kitchen looking at the refrigerator and the other (me) in the spare room looking at the computer screen. What part of the brain and how large a portion of that part would need to be (successfully) transplanted into the other body in order to move "me" into that other body?

'you' are only getting MORE LOST and MORE CONFUSED here.

Would the whole brain need to be moved? And if the whole brain wasn't moved, if particular parts were swapped between me and my twin brother, what would happen to me? Would I cease to exist or would I eventually be looking at the refrigerator once enough of the requisite parts were swapped?

MOOT.

[Age]

You are near the brain. What you experience is simulated by Mind using the state of your brain, your sensory system, etc.

What I truly wonder is; is there a particular part of my brain that "I" am in? In other words, suppose, instead of successfully transplanting my whole brain into the other body, what if a part of my brain was successfully transplanted into the other body? For the purpose of the thought experiment, suppose the other body has everything in it that was physically identical to me except for the fact that it is not "me" in it. In other words, there are two identical bodies, me and my twin brother. One of us is in the kitchen looking at the refrigerator and the other (me) in the spare room looking at the computer screen. What part of the brain and how large a portion of that part would need to be (successfully) transplanted into the other body in order to move "me" into that other body? Would the whole brain need to be moved? And if the whole brain wasn't moved, if particular parts were swapped between me and my twin brother, what would happen to me? Would I cease to exist or would I eventually be looking at the refrigerator once enough of the requisite parts were swapped?

Dear Gary,

I suppose one could say that the sensation of an “I” is the effect of a mind’s interpretation of the full sum of a body’s experiences.

What is this 'mind' thing, which 'you', human beings, talk about and go on about?

If a body was “taken apart”, “you” would not be in any of those parts. “You” are only in the sum of them.

Which infers that 'you', people, are more than or less than one another, depending on the size and/or number of 'parts'.

Much like a “group-mentality” is not present in any one individual, yet is very much a living force within the group.


Humbly,
Hermit

[Age]

You are near the brain. What you experience is simulated by Mind using the state of your brain, your sensory system, etc.

What I truly wonder is; is there a particular part of my brain that "I" am in?

The sense of "I" is a state generated by Mind depending on the particular formation of neurons in your brain.

So, for ALL of 'you' that STILL do NOT YET KNOW who 'I' am, this is the fault of the particular formation of neurons in the so-called 'your brains' correct?

In other words, suppose, instead of successfully transplanting my whole brain into the other body, what if a part of my brain was successfully transplanted into the other body?

Which part of the brain are you transplanting?

It would NOT matter one iota.

For the purpose of the thought experiment, suppose the other body has everything in it that was physically identical to me except for the fact that it is not "me" in it. In other words, there are two identical bodies, me and my twin brother. One of us is in the kitchen looking at the refrigerator and the other (me) in the spare room looking at the computer screen. What part of the brain and how large a portion of that part would need to be (successfully) transplanted into the other body in order to move "me" into that other body?

You don't experience any change after transplantation. There are two identical persons with two senses of "I" in different places. The sense of "I" is just a state experienced by Mind.

A completely and utterly MISINTERPRETED sense, 'I' will add here.

Would the whole brain need to be moved?

No, even you don't experience a change even if you move a single neuron or the whole brain.

And if the whole brain wasn't moved, if particular parts were swapped between me and my twin brother, what would happen to me?

Nothing.

Would I cease to exist or would I eventually be looking at the refrigerator once enough of the requisite parts were swapped?

There is not a real "I" as I stated.

Who and/or what is the 'I', which stated that there is NOT a 'real' "I"?

Am 'I' the ONLY one who can SEE the CONTRADICTION here?

The sense of "I" is just a state. There are two different senses of "I" in different places that don't change during perfect transplantation.

Has so-called 'perfect transplantation' taken place ALREADY?

[Age]

What I truly wonder is; is there a particular part of my brain that "I" am in? In other words, suppose, instead of successfully transplanting my whole brain into the other body, what if a part of my brain was successfully transplanted into the other body? For the purpose of the thought experiment, suppose the other body has everything in it that was physically identical to me except for the fact that it is not "me" in it. In other words, there are two identical bodies, me and my twin brother. One of us is in the kitchen looking at the refrigerator and the other (me) in the spare room looking at the computer screen. What part of the brain and how large a portion of that part would need to be (successfully) transplanted into the other body in order to move "me" into that other body? Would the whole brain need to be moved? And if the whole brain wasn't moved, if particular parts were swapped between me and my twin brother, what would happen to me? Would I cease to exist or would I eventually be looking at the refrigerator once enough of the requisite parts were swapped?

Dear Gary,

I suppose one could say that the sensation of an “I” is the effect of a mind’s interpretation of the full sum of a body’s experiences.

If a body was “taken apart”, “you” would not be in any of those parts. “You” are only in the sum of them.

Much like a “group-mentality” is not present in any one individual, yet is very much a living force within the group.


Humbly,
Hermit

So if I have an arm amputated I would probably stop having sensations from that arm, however, would I cease to exist?

Would who or what cease to exist?

See, until one is able to define who and what thee 'I' is EXACTLY, all of these questions, and supplied answers, are just nonsensical.

And, once one KNOWS who and what 'I' am EXACTLY, all of these questions, and thus answers, are completely and utterly UNNECESSARY.

What about a part of the brain? If a part of my brain were amputated, say a part attached to a cancerous section, would I cease to exist? Which part of the brain would need to be amputated or how much of the brain would need to be amputated in order for me to stop having any sensation whatsoever? Is there a particular spot in the brain where "I" am?

YES.

And if you amputated that spot where "I" am, and if you put it back after amputation, would I come back to life--wake up as it were?

[Age]

There is not a real "I" as I stated. The sense of "I" is just a state. There are two different senses of "I" in different places that don't change during perfect transplantation.

So if part of my brain was successfully transplanted in my twin and part of his brain was successfully transplanted in mine, which would I experience; seeing a refrigerator or seeing a computer screen?

The True, Right, and Correct answer is very simple and easy to KNOW. That is; once one learns and KNOWS who and what 'I' am, EXACTLY.

[Age]

I suppose in some sense I seem to be located in my body. If my body is not near the computer, then I am not near the computer.

This is where you make your first mistake; adopting classical dualism. You are assuming that you are somehow separate from your body.
You are not "located" in your body. You are not something temporarily inhabiting a zombie of flesh and bone. You are what you is.

And what is 'you', "sculptor"?

If you loose an arm you have genuinely lost a part of your self.
When your body stops working, you are going to end. No one gets out of this alive!

Can 'you' REALLY not SEE the CONTRADICTION here?

[Age]

I suppose in some sense I seem to be located in my body. If my body is not near the computer, then I am not near the computer.

Suppose I am now looking at my computer screen. If I get up and walk away from the computer screen, into the kitchen, I am no longer near it. I would then be looking at the refrigerator (for the sake of argument). What would happen if, instead of getting up and walking to the kitchen, my brain was (successfully) surgically removed from the rest of my body and (successfully) surgically transplanted into another body with a pair of eyes attached to it that was pointed in the direction of the refrigerator? Would "I" then still (equally) be looking at the refrigerator? Would "I" feel the sensations that were running through the other body?

The I AM that asks the question where AM I

Doesn't exist except as a conceptual fictional character inside the Absolute Self, which can never be accessed by a dream character since it's just an illusion.

Can the Absolute Self be accessed by the Absolute Self?

You are the ABSOLUTE dreaming difference where there is none, here now, nowhere, all at once, once without a second.

To know where you are requires an antenna to transmit your whereabouts, which are usually where ever you are, there you are.

The brain is the antenna. No brain, no location.


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[attofishpi]

You are near the brain. What you experience is simulated by Mind using the state of your brain, your sensory system, etc.

What I truly wonder is; is there a particular part of my brain that "I" am in?

Learn, and thus KNOW, who and what 'I' am EXACTLY, then 'you' will also KNOW the answer to what is being wondered here.

In other words, suppose, instead of successfully transplanting my whole brain into the other body, what if a part of my brain was successfully transplanted into the other body?

'I' STILL REMAIN EXACTLY where 'I am'.

That is; WITH-IN EVERY 'thing'.

For the purpose of the thought experiment, suppose the other body has everything in it that was physically identical to me except for the fact that it is not "me" in it.

ONCE MORE, 'you' are claiming that 'you' or 'I' am 'the (physical) body'.

In other words, there are two identical bodies, me and my twin brother. One of us is in the kitchen looking at the refrigerator and the other (me) in the spare room looking at the computer screen. What part of the brain and how large a portion of that part would need to be (successfully) transplanted into the other body in order to move "me" into that other body?

'you' are only getting MORE LOST and MORE CONFUSED here.

Would the whole brain need to be moved? And if the whole brain wasn't moved, if particular parts were swapped between me and my twin brother, what would happen to me? Would I cease to exist or would I eventually be looking at the refrigerator once enough of the requisite parts were swapped?

MOOT.

DICKHEAD Y ARE U QUOTING ME I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS RIDICULOUS THREAD

[Dontaskme]

Can the Absolute Self be accessed by the Absolute Self?

Can An Itch Scratch Itself?

Can You Get Under Your Own Skin?

Can You Take One Step In Front Of Yourself?

Can You Jump Over Your Shadow?

[Harbal]

There is a lot of confusion regarding the term "I". When someone refers to "I", they could mean any number of things. So, if someone wants to discuss the nature of "I", they really need to define what exactly they mean by the term beforehand. And it will often be the case that, by defining it, they will, at the same time, be answering their original question about it.

[seeds]

What I truly wonder is; is there a particular part of my brain that "I" am in? In other words, suppose, instead of successfully transplanting my whole brain into the other body, what if a part of my brain was successfully transplanted into the other body?

I'm thinking that you would need to transplant the whole brain in order for your thought experiment to work.

For example, Imagine the following image of a human womb...



...as representing the brain, and that the baby within it is the "I" in question in your thought experiment.

The problem arises in thinking that you could cut the womb (in this case the brain) into pieces, and the baby (again, the "I") would somehow be able to exist in one of the cut-up pieces of the womb.

However, if your assault on the integrity of the womb (brain) is severe enough, it would simply be the equivalent of a "cesarean section," thus resulting in the birth of the baby (the "I") out of the brain (womb) and into the transcendent context of reality where all of our "I"s allegedly go in the speculative assumption that there is life after death.

The bottom line is that just as it would be plausible to transplant a baby-laden human womb into the body of another female (assuming you swapped it out with her original womb and got all the plumbing right),...

...likewise, it would be plausible to transplant an "I"-laden brain into another (presumably empty) human skull (or even to the proverbial "vat"), and all would be fine.
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[Age]

What I truly wonder is; is there a particular part of my brain that "I" am in?

Learn, and thus KNOW, who and what 'I' am EXACTLY, then 'you' will also KNOW the answer to what is being wondered here.

In other words, suppose, instead of successfully transplanting my whole brain into the other body, what if a part of my brain was successfully transplanted into the other body?

'I' STILL REMAIN EXACTLY where 'I am'.

That is; WITH-IN EVERY 'thing'.

For the purpose of the thought experiment, suppose the other body has everything in it that was physically identical to me except for the fact that it is not "me" in it.

ONCE MORE, 'you' are claiming that 'you' or 'I' am 'the (physical) body'.

In other words, there are two identical bodies, me and my twin brother. One of us is in the kitchen looking at the refrigerator and the other (me) in the spare room looking at the computer screen. What part of the brain and how large a portion of that part would need to be (successfully) transplanted into the other body in order to move "me" into that other body?

'you' are only getting MORE LOST and MORE CONFUSED here.

Would the whole brain need to be moved? And if the whole brain wasn't moved, if particular parts were swapped between me and my twin brother, what would happen to me? Would I cease to exist or would I eventually be looking at the refrigerator once enough of the requisite parts were swapped?

MOOT.

DICKHEAD Y ARE U QUOTING ME I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS RIDICULOUS THREAD

Because I had your name saved, and pasted it unknowingly. I apologize profusely for the MISTAKE I have made here, and for the unnecessary distress that it has obviously caused you. I will correct MY MISTAKE IMMEDIATELY.

[Age]

Can the Absolute Self be accessed by the Absolute Self?

Can An Itch Scratch Itself?

An 'itch' and a 'scratch' are two DIFFERENT things. I was, obviously, referring to thee One Thing.

Also, do 'itches' and/or 'scratches' have the ability to access?

Can You Get Under Your Own Skin?

'you' are, literally, under the skin, of that body.

Can You Take One Step In Front Of Yourself?

'yourself' is an oxymoron and a self-refutation.

Can You Jump Over Your Shadow?

When 'you' learn and understand what 'you' ACTUALLY ARE, then 'you' will NOT ask such illogical questions. This is because 'you' would KNOW what thee ACTUAL Truth IS, here.

For your information, thee Absolute Self, by the way, is absolutely NOTHING like 'you' also.

[Age]

There is a lot of confusion regarding the term "I". When someone refers to "I", they could mean any number of things. So, if someone wants to discuss the nature of "I", they really need to define what exactly they mean by the term beforehand. And it will often be the case that, by defining it, they will, at the same time, be answering their original question about it.

VERY GOOD POINT.

And, by the way, there is a LOT of confusion regarding MANY, MANY terms. So, when someone refers to MANY, MANY words, they could mean any number of things. As I have quite often been pointing out and showing.

Therefore, if someone wants to discuss the nature of ANY thing, they really need to define what, EXACTLY, they mean, or are referring to, beforehand. As I have quite often been pointing out and showing.

And, by defining the words 'you', people, use, (as I just did here), then confusion, and misunderstanding, can be, and is, alleviated, anyway.

[Maia]

Where does your consciousness appear to reside, to you? I don't mean where in the brain it actually resides, which is another issue in itself. But rather, where does it seem to reside, to you, subjectively?