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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:03 am In you, where else would it be.
That's what the videos are pointing to...take no notice of the man behind the curtain.
In the post before the one you are resonding to here, I asked questions about the method and many other things. This included precisely what the videos are pointing to.

And I think your post better fits him saying Pearls before Swine much more than my post. I think perhaps you could have shown him a part of himself there
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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:09 am
Harbal wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:07 am
Maybe I'm wrong; perhaps he isn't an imposter. It could be that Roy really does have some wisdom to share. There's no harm in asking him for a sample, is there?

He's already provided it in the videos.
No he hasn't. He hasn't talked about how his theory could be put into practice, and how it would change things for the better.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:09 am
Harbal wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:07 am
Maybe I'm wrong; perhaps he isn't an imposter. It could be that Roy really does have some wisdom to share. There's no harm in asking him for a sample, is there?

He's already provided it in the videos.
What he's talking about takes years of experience and often interactions with people or 'people' if you prefer. Not watching two videos. You already got it, long ago. It was not something you got from 15 minutes. It came from long processes. It did for him also, if you read his quick bio earlier in the thread.

Is there something wrong with asking questions?
Are you finding fault with the way people are here?
What does that say about you old friend, since they are just you?
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Harbal wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:14 am
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:09 am
Harbal wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:07 am
Maybe I'm wrong; perhaps he isn't an imposter. It could be that Roy really does have some wisdom to share. There's no harm in asking him for a sample, is there?

He's already provided it in the videos.
No he hasn't. He hasn't talked about how his theory could be put into practice, and how it would change things for the better.
It's not a practice. It's not a theory. They require a thinker and a doer.

It's a pointing, pointing to the end of theory and practice and to see what's left which is thought free awareness. That is the last thing you want to do, you said.
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Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:16 am
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:09 am
Harbal wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:07 am
Maybe I'm wrong; perhaps he isn't an imposter. It could be that Roy really does have some wisdom to share. There's no harm in asking him for a sample, is there?

He's already provided it in the videos.
What he's talking about takes years of experience and often interactions with people or 'people' if you prefer. Not watching two videos. You already got it, long ago. It was not something you got from 15 minutes. It came from long processes. It did for him also, if you read his quick bio earlier in the thread.

Ok I understand what you mean...so he's left breadcrumbs right...and not the whole loaf..right?

Did he ever imply he has provided the whole loaf?
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Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:16 am
Is there something wrong with asking questions?
Nope.
Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:16 amAre you finding fault with the way people are here?
No, are you?
Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:16 amWhat does that say about you old friend, since they are just you?
How do I know what that says about a friend.. you haven't told me yet.
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Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:00 am
roydop wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:56 am Pearls before swine.
I'd really prefer answers to my previous post, but Roy, now you are calling people swine. Where's the peace?
That prompted me to read all of Matthew 7, kjv. Beautiful chapter. Beautiful language.

Why discourage Roy? There is so much activity here I may have missed his response that fit into the conditions that I set. Why make a big deal out of it? Why insist that he doesn’t get it because he doesn’t meet my conditions? Why even look for the posting that I might have missed? No reason. It’s not that big a deal until the realizations are discovered within the context of the conditions that had to be met.

I think Roy should be encouraged to be relevant to what’s happenin’ now in his own way, whatever that may be, even if it be his perception that others don’t get it. If he wants to rag on everyone, rag on. Maybe he can make the message relevant, and if the message is pearls, they would be valuable enough to pick through what must picked through to find them. That is, unless they are fresh-water pearls, which aren't worth much as I learned in the movie, The Kentuckian, although I never bothered to verify that information with the words of a scientist.
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Walker wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:33 am That is, unless they are fresh-water pearls, which aren't worth much as I learned in the movie, The Kentuckian, although I never bothered to verify that information with the words of a scientist.
Were those less valuable pearls the same pearls you winged at me once. Yeah, like yeah, probs.
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Walker wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:00 am
Sculptor wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 11:06 pm
Harbal wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:29 pm

I don't see Roy as a Guru; I see him as a chancer trying to get his ill conceived Youtube channel off the ground.
Any clown can call himself a "guru". But it takes qualifications to be an actual "teacher".
Does Roy have qualifications to be an actual teacher?
I might have missed the bio.

He probably meets the legal qualifications to be POTUS.
Is it more difficult to be a teacher than a POTUS?
Yes it is more difficult to be a teacher than a POTUS, but the job scarcity means that only one idiot can be POTUS.
Huge riches, or access to them is required to be POTUS but there is no bar to a lack of intelligence, and there is no qualification needed to be POTUS.
The bigfatorangebabyman proves this.
He would not be allowed to teach children, thank god.
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Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:13 am
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:03 am In you, where else would it be.
That's what the videos are pointing to...take no notice of the man behind the curtain.
In the post before the one you are resonding to here, I asked questions about the method and many other things. This included precisely what the videos are pointing to.

And I think your post better fits him saying Pearls before Swine much more than my post. I think perhaps you could have shown him a part of himself there
The videos are pointing to ''THOUGHT FREE AWARENESS''

That's where the peace is. You were asking about the whereabouts of the peace. You are the peace.

What part of that message do you not understand?

I'm in on this whole conversation too you know.
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Walker wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:33 am That prompted me to read all of Matthew 7, kjv. Beautiful chapter. Beautiful language.
Thank you.
Why discourage Roy?
How could Roy be discouraged? Have you read what he wrote?
In the previous post I asked him a number of questions. In reponse to a post of his in a philosophy forum, in the philosophy of language section.

There is so much activity here I may have missed his response that fit into the conditions that I set.
The condistions you set? I don't understand.
Why make a big deal out of it? Why insist that he doesn’t get it because he doesn’t meet my conditions?
I don't know why you are referring to your conditions.
Why even look for the posting that I might have missed? No reason. It’s not that big a deal until the realizations are discovered within the context of the conditions that had to be met.
Same thing here.
I think Roy should be encouraged to be relevant to what’s happenin’ now in his own way, whatever that may be, even if it be his perception that others don’t get it.
If he wants to rag on everyone, rag on.
I asked him a lot of questions. I think that makes it easy to rag on, lots of inspiration/invitation to rag on. And also, it's me ragging on.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:25 am Ok I understand what you mean...so he's left breadcrumbs right...and not the whole loaf..right?

Did he ever imply he has provided the whole loaf?
Actually he did. He said if you watched the two videos you would get it, but if you didn't get it after watching the two videos, then you didn't want to get it. Imagine if people believed that.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:29 am
Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:16 am
Is there something wrong with asking questions?
Nope.
Great.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:18 am The videos are pointing to ''THOUGHT FREE AWARENESS''
Yes, I understood that.
That's where the peace is.
I've heard that said, though you had it before those videos. So, the peace is likely in many places. But this doesn't have much to do with what I said to him.
You were asking about the whereabouts of the peace. You are the peace.
Yes, you said that before.

I was responding to him calling someone or a number of people here swine.

You react to us when we say things, but oddly, him calling people swine did not lead you to react to him. Kill the Buddha on the road if you meet him. Or become an acolyte. That, of course, is up to you.
What part of that message do you not understand?
I understand the whole message. What part of the message don't you get?
I'm in on this whole conversation too you know.
I don't think so. I think you treat Roy as untouchable. I don't think you would correct/challenge/remind him. Even though selves don't exist, you wouldn't challenge the non-self of Roy or at least you don't

He called someone swine.
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Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:02 pm
He called someone swine.
No, the messages in the video is pointing to a ''thought free awareness'' prior to a label/concept known.


If the shoe fits then wear it, but no one is forcing you to wear it, unless you want to. No one is forcing you to clothe your nakedness with veil obscuring your real self.
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