Probably a silly question.
Probably a silly question.
In a philosophical debate, such as those commonly to be found here, should our main objective be to stick doggedly to our guns, no matter what, and simply refuse to acknowledge the slightest possibility of our being wrong about something, even when it is obvious that we are, or should our prime purpose be to try to arrive at the truth without having an unshakeable certainty that we already know what it is to start with?
Or, to put it another way, are we here to indoctrinate or to learn?
Or, to put it another way, are we here to indoctrinate or to learn?
Re: Probably a silly question.
Well. Maybe.Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:52 am In a philosophical debate, such as those commonly to be found here, should our main objective be to stick doggedly to our guns, no matter what, and simply refuse to acknowledge the slightest possibility of our being wrong about something, even when it is obvious that we are, or should our prime purpose be to try to arrive at the truth without having an unshakeable certainty that we already know what it is to start with?
Or, to put it another way, are we here to indoctrinate or to learn?
Some people may engage in philosophicla debate in order to indoctrinate.
Some people may engage in philosophicla debate in order here to learn.
Some people may engage in philosophicla debate via motivated reasoning so truth doesn't matter; or at least it's immaterial to their goals.
Some people may engage in philosophicla debate via critical thought so truth does matter to them.
What and who determines which motives/strategy/style of reasoning is "wrong"?
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Re: Probably a silly question.
For me anyway, to learn.Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:52 am In a philosophical debate, such as those commonly to be found here, should our main objective be to stick doggedly to our guns, no matter what, and simply refuse to acknowledge the slightest possibility of our being wrong about something, even when it is obvious that we are, or should our prime purpose be to try to arrive at the truth without having an unshakeable certainty that we already know what it is to start with?
Or, to put it another way, are we here to indoctrinate or to learn?
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Re: Probably a silly question.
I've never seen you agree with anyone about anything. EVER. You seem to be compelled to argue about everything. It's exhausting. Just saying...Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:01 pmFor me anyway, to learn.Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:52 am In a philosophical debate, such as those commonly to be found here, should our main objective be to stick doggedly to our guns, no matter what, and simply refuse to acknowledge the slightest possibility of our being wrong about something, even when it is obvious that we are, or should our prime purpose be to try to arrive at the truth without having an unshakeable certainty that we already know what it is to start with?
Or, to put it another way, are we here to indoctrinate or to learn?
Re: Probably a silly question.
I AGREE.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:09 pmI've never seen you agree with anyone about anything. EVER. You seem to be compelled to argue about everything. It's exhausting. Just saying...Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:01 pmFor me anyway, to learn.Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:52 am In a philosophical debate, such as those commonly to be found here, should our main objective be to stick doggedly to our guns, no matter what, and simply refuse to acknowledge the slightest possibility of our being wrong about something, even when it is obvious that we are, or should our prime purpose be to try to arrive at the truth without having an unshakeable certainty that we already know what it is to start with?
Or, to put it another way, are we here to indoctrinate or to learn?
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Re: Probably a silly question.
So in other words you are a bog-standard know-it-all. No wonder no one wants to discuss anything with you. It's just hard work, especially with your ridiculous habit of random capitalisation.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:13 pmI AGREE.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:09 pmI've never seen you agree with anyone about anything. EVER. You seem to be compelled to argue about everything. It's exhausting. Just saying...
Re: Probably a silly question.
Now I have to agree with that. I find it distracting, and an obstacle to good communication. It's also quite irritating.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:16 pm It's just hard work, especially with your ridiculous habit of random capitalisation.
Re: Probably a silly question.
Did you ever stop to consider that you have NOT SEEN EVERY thing I have written here?vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:16 pmSo in other words you are a bog-standard know-it-all.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:13 pmI AGREE.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:09 pm
I've never seen you agree with anyone about anything. EVER. You seem to be compelled to argue about everything. It's exhausting. Just saying...
And, that I just do NOT write, 'I agree', to absolutely EVERY thing that 'I agree with'?
I agreed with what you wrote here above 100%, but I would usually NOT have informed you that I agreed with it, like ALL the OTHER times I have agreed with you, except I did this time.
Oh, and by the way, I do NOT recall seeing you agreeing with ANY one about ANY thing, EVER, ALSO. But that IN NO WAY means that you have NOT.
And, NO, just because I USED the 'I AGREE' words here that does NOT mean that I am, what you ACCUSED me of being here.
As I continually say, If absolutely ANY thing I write is FALSE, WRONG, or INCORRECT, then just POINT 'it' OUT, for us to LOOK AT 'it', and then EXPLAIN WHY you see that 'it' is FALSE, WRONG, or INCORRECT.
EXCEPT 'you' are DISCUSSING 'this' here with me now.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:16 pm No wonder no one wants to discuss anything with you.
WHY do some of you here, in this forum, find some capitalized words so-called VERY HARD WORK?vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:16 pm It's just hard work, especially with your ridiculous habit of random capitalisation.
Re: Probably a silly question.
It was also done for a VERY SPECIFIC REASON.Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:21 pmNow I have to agree with that. I find it distracting, and an obstacle to good communication. It's also quite irritating.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:16 pm It's just hard work, especially with your ridiculous habit of random capitalisation.
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Re: Probably a silly question.
Third option: decimation.are we here to indoctrinate or to learn?
If you cannot teach them, and they cannot teach you: War!
or indifference