Currant Buns and Pop Guns - The Big Bang

[Age]

...continuing this discussion would just be a waste of time.

I agree.

You did NOT even have the COURAGE and ABILITY to just even ATTEMPT to gain CLARITY about what the 'it' IS here, which was being talked about. And this is because you did NOT want to be PROVEN, AGAIN, just how INCOMPETENT you REALLY ARE here.

You have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA NOR CLUE AT ALL, AND you do NOT want me to bring this to LIGHT.

[Age]

...ONCE AGAIN, you have had ABSOLUTELY NO clue AT ALL as to what this discussion was even about.

It's my thread, you dopey fuck; of course I know what it's about.

Therefore, WASTING TIME.

Yeah, that's true.

I was talking about the 'it' that YOU referred to. Talk about being Truly CLUELESS

[uwot]

WHEN you get past a d over all of your AVOIDANCE TACTICS, THEN I WILL SHOW how redshift VERIFIES that the Universe IS infinite and eternal.

No you won't; everything you say is an avoidance tactic. You should look up projection, here's a link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection Do yourself a favour and learn something for once; it might make you less than a complete idiot.

[uwot]

WHEN you get past a d over all of your AVOIDANCE TACTICS, THEN I WILL SHOW how redshift VERIFIES that the Universe IS infinite and eternal.

Stop being a wanker and just do it.

[Age]

WHEN you get past a d over all of your AVOIDANCE TACTICS, THEN I WILL SHOW how redshift VERIFIES that the Universe IS infinite and eternal.

Stop being a wanker and just do it.

AGAIN you USE the 'it' word. Do WHAT, EXACTLY? I have PROVED, ONCE ALREADY, that you had NO CLUE what it was referring to when you questioned 'it'.

How about you just do it. That is; if you can.

[uwot]

WHEN you get past a d over all of your AVOIDANCE TACTICS, THEN I WILL SHOW how redshift VERIFIES that the Universe IS infinite and eternal.

Stop being a wanker and just do it.

AGAIN you USE the 'it' word. Do WHAT, EXACTLY?

Stop being a wanker and "SHOW how redshift VERIFIES that the Universe IS infinite and eternal."

[Age]

Stop being a wanker and just do it.

AGAIN you USE the 'it' word. Do WHAT, EXACTLY?

Stop being a wanker and "SHOW how redshift VERIFIES that the Universe IS infinite and eternal."

Are you OPEN to the Fact that the Universe could be infinite and eternal?

[uwot]

Are you OPEN to the Fact that the Universe could be infinite and eternal?

Yes Age. How many times do I have to say it? I am OPEN to the Fact that the Universe could be infinite and eternal. Now give one reason to think that might be the case.

[Age]

Are you OPEN to the Fact that the Universe could be infinite and eternal?

Yes Age. How many times do I have to say it? I am OPEN to the Fact that the Universe could be infinite and eternal. Now give one reason to think that might be the case.

You, and "others", can keep saying it for as long as you like and for as many times as you like but until you, and "them" start CHANGING the actual words that you USE you are just CONTRADICTING "yourselves" here.

BUT, let us give you the benefit here and imagine that you REALLY were Truly OPEN, then I would begin by seeking clarity from you that redshift means that the objects that are shifted towards the red end of the spectrum are moving away from the 'observer', that is; the instrument taking the 'data', and the objects shifted towards the other end of the spectrum, that is; the blue end, are blue shifted and moving towards the 'observer', correct?

[Age]

Once we have agreed and accepted what red and blue shift 'data' concludes,then we can move along.

So, the quicker you are, the quicker this can be resolved ONCE, and for ALL.

[uwot]

... let us give you the benefit here and imagine that you REALLY were Truly OPEN...

What a generous soul you are.

...then I would begin by seeking clarity from you that redshift means that the objects that are shifted towards the red end of the spectrum are moving away from the 'observer'...

Redshift due to the Doppler effect has been observed in laboratories and planets that probes have visited. Redshift on the scale of the solar system is comprehensively verified.

...that is; the instrument taking the 'data', and the objects shifted towards the other end of the spectrum, that is; the blue end, are blue shifted and moving towards the 'observer', correct?

Where do you think the observer is in relation to the "instrument taking the 'data'"?

[Age]

... let us give you the benefit here and imagine that you REALLY were Truly OPEN...

What a generous soul you are.

...then I would begin by seeking clarity from you that redshift means that the objects that are shifted towards the red end of the spectrum are moving away from the 'observer'...

Redshift due to the Doppler effect has been observed in laboratories and planets that probes have visited. Redshift on the scale of the solar system is comprehensively verified.

How long is this going to take?

WHY does it seem IMPOSSIBLE for you to just answer the ACTUAL CLARIFY QUESTION posed to you the FIRST TIME?

Now, “redshift on the scale of the solar system is comprehensively verified“ in relation to 'what', EXACTLY?

IF you are going to say in relation to an expanding Universe ONCE MORE, then we are BACK to the beginning, ONCE AGAIN.

As I have ALREADY NOTED:
Once we have agreed and accepted what red and blue shift 'data' concludes, then we can move along.

So, the quicker you are, the quicker this can be resolved ONCE, and for ALL.

...that is; the instrument taking the 'data', and the objects shifted towards the other end of the spectrum, that is; the blue end, are blue shifted and moving towards the 'observer', correct?

Where do you think the observer is in relation to the "instrument taking the 'data'"?

NOT being IT, but being somewhere ELSE in relation to IT, OBVIOUSLY.

Unless, OF COURSE, you have been PRESUMING there is some instrument within the human body that has a blue end and a red end end to it. Have you?

See, the instrument used for observing red and blue shift could be placed on an out in space telescope and/or on another planet, for example, and the 'data' send back to human beings, but anyway, OBVIOUSLY, the instrument is NEVER EXACTLY where a person, another observer IS.

[Age]

If you REALLY want me to give you one reason why to think the Universe is infinite and eternal, then you HAVE TO just ANSWER the questions I pose to you Honestly, and OPENLY, and STOP DETRACTING and DEFLECTING, as though you ALREADY BELIEVE it is NOT possible for the Universe to be infinite and eternal.

Are you CAPABLE of doing this? Or is this NOT possible for you?

[uwot]

Now, “redshift on the scale of the solar system is comprehensively verified“ in relation to 'what', EXACTLY?

We have measured the redshift due to the rotation of planets in our solar system. The thing with a rotating body is that one side is moving towards you, and another is moving away. We can can measure the redshift of the side that is moving away and compare it to the blueshift of the side that is moving towards us. By doing so we can work out how fast the planet is rotating. This was done before the 1920's. Since then probes have visited every planet in the solar system and verified the century old calculations. Do you need me to be more exact?

[FlashDangerpants]

As I will SHOW.

Go on then

Go on them 'what', EXACTLY?

Do the showing