Economics
The economic theory that suited the Industrial Revolution is almost certainly not what is urgently needed today with the present environmental and human emergencies.
In the past the production of more and a greater varieties of goods, and maximising monetary profit, may have been appropriate. With ‘wealth’ virtually taken to be money.
Today wealth is whatever preserves the natural world and humanity as part of it, with communities and the world treated holistically.
Not as a playground for an ever increasing population of individuals.
An immediate problem is that of pollution causing greenhouse warming, as by the airline industry.
Offsetting is dangerous humbug, merely offsetting the problem.
The only wealth from airlines taking people on holiday abroad is the holidays themselves.
Something that is very far from essential to human and nature’s survival.
Everything else is about pollution, and sacking the limited resources of the world.
A modern holistic society, must minimise such indulgence, while taking responsibility for those that a shrinking industry releases.
Essential goods must be defined with everyone guaranteed their needful share.
Where any community has created a ‘sustainable’ and balanced population and economy, it must maintain this in egalitarian partnership with other communities.
Economics
Re: Economics
there is no modern holistic society, unless you're in a commune or something of that nature.RWStanding wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:10 am Economics
The economic theory that suited the Industrial Revolution is almost certainly not what is urgently needed today with the present environmental and human emergencies.
In the past the production of more and a greater varieties of goods, and maximising monetary profit, may have been appropriate. With ‘wealth’ virtually taken to be money.
Today wealth is whatever preserves the natural world and humanity as part of it, with communities and the world treated holistically.
Not as a playground for an ever increasing population of individuals.
An immediate problem is that of pollution causing greenhouse warming, as by the airline industry.
Offsetting is dangerous humbug, merely offsetting the problem.
The only wealth from airlines taking people on holiday abroad is the holidays themselves.
Something that is very far from essential to human and nature’s survival.
Everything else is about pollution, and sacking the limited resources of the world.
A modern holistic society, must minimise such indulgence, while taking responsibility for those that a shrinking industry releases.
Essential goods must be defined with everyone guaranteed their needful share.
Where any community has created a ‘sustainable’ and balanced population and economy, it must maintain this in egalitarian partnership with other communities.
people must make goods, trade goods, to keep the majority off poverty. winning makes many problems fade away. that holistic society crap is for the affluent because they are the only ones who can afford it. the rest are still one bologna sandwiches and mac & cheese
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Re: Economics
Is there not a potentially serious hazard in theological/theocratically-inclined people getting into high office with their dangerous disregard — and even contempt — for the natural environment? As a disturbing example of such, in the midst of yet another unprecedented Amazonian rainforest wildfire two summers ago, Brazilian president and evangelical Christian Jair Bolsonaro declared that his presidency — and, I presume, all of the formidable environmental damage he inflicts while in power — is “fulfilling a mission from God”.
Closer to home, many of Canada’s leading conservative politicians, not to mention our previous prime minister (i.e. Stephen Harper, close friend to Postmedia's then-CEO Paul Godfrey), are/were ideologically aligned with the pro-fossil-fuel mainstream American Evangelical community and Republican Party.
Generally shared is the belief that to defend the natural environment from the planet’s greatest polluters, notably big fossil fuel, is to go against God’s will and therefore is inherently evil. Some even credit the bone-dry-vegetation areas uncontrollably burning in California each year to some divine wrath upon collective humankind’s ‘sinfulness’.
Closer to home, many of Canada’s leading conservative politicians, not to mention our previous prime minister (i.e. Stephen Harper, close friend to Postmedia's then-CEO Paul Godfrey), are/were ideologically aligned with the pro-fossil-fuel mainstream American Evangelical community and Republican Party.
Generally shared is the belief that to defend the natural environment from the planet’s greatest polluters, notably big fossil fuel, is to go against God’s will and therefore is inherently evil. Some even credit the bone-dry-vegetation areas uncontrollably burning in California each year to some divine wrath upon collective humankind’s ‘sinfulness’.