The Antithetical Nature Of Intellectualism

[simplicity]

So, WHY is 'this'.

Because the human mind has no access to actual Reality. What appears like consensus is just folks agreeing to agree because things need to get done [sort of like politics].

[Age]

So, WHY is 'this'.

Because the human mind has no access to actual Reality. What appears like consensus is just folks agreeing to agree because things need to get done [sort of like politics].

But there is NO such thing as a "human mind".

AND, when what the 'Mind' IS, EXACTLY, becomes KNOWN, then the RIDICULOUSNESS of saying and claiming that there is NO access to Reality, Itself, becomes also CLEARLY RECOGNISED and KNOWN.

[Atla]

Although "understanding" the human intellect [intellectualism] might seem somewhat paradoxical if you subscribe to the gist of this post, it makes as much sense as anything can. This is because our point of departure is our ego-based universal view, that the entirety of creation revolves around each one of us. Let me give you a meaningful example.

Philosophy holds itself out as a method to cultivate clarity, viz, understanding, to the human condition. Unfortunately, many folks reach the limit of this exploration but are never able to transcend the same. What lies beyond the intellectual answers all of the questions [and much more...the most prescient realization being that Truth (Reality) can only be experienced (and never understood)].

This same reasoning [realization] applies to all things.

Maybe it's just me, but your comments seem to be in a version of English I can't decipher.

It's how it is with everybody and includes every attempt to communicate. How is it possible that anybody can REALLY understand another? Just the same, that's another subject for another day.

For example by antithethical you seem to mean something other than antithetical (self-contradictory, self-undermining maybe?).

What I mean is that the intellectual process is the direct opposite of what is held out to be. In other words, the process simply creates further confusion [whether this is acknowledged or not is another matter].

By intellectualism you seem to mean something other than intellectualism (conceptual existence maybe?).
what does intellectualism have to do with "understanding" the human intellect?
creation revolves around us??? you mean around the "I", I"-based thinking?
why restrict philosophy to the human condition?

As opposed to what condition?

yes Reality can only be experienced that's a pretty basic insight, but why would all other questions be answered too?

Please explain why Reality can only be experienced. Answering [realizing] one question answers them all.

Yeah I just can't decipher what you're saying.

[simplicity]

Yeah I just can't decipher what you're saying.

Fair enough.

All questions are really the same..."Who am I?" Once you answer this question, then you have answered all questions.

Life is exactly about this task. Philosophy is a part of this journey, but a tool one discards after its utility is exhausted.

[Atla]

Yeah I just can't decipher what you're saying.

Fair enough.

All questions are really the same..."Who am I." Once you answer this question, then you have answered all questions.

Life is exactly about this task. Philosophy is a part of this journey, but a tool one discards after its utility is exhausted.

Still can't decipher it. At least 95% of questions aren't related to the "Who am I". Nor is life exactly about this task, but it's a central theme. And philosophy can and does go beyond it, it's an important early step.

[Atla]

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[simplicity]

Yeah I just can't decipher what you're saying.

Fair enough.

All questions are really the same..."Who am I." Once you answer this question, then you have answered all questions.

Life is exactly about this task. Philosophy is a part of this journey, but a tool one discards after its utility is exhausted.

Still can't decipher it. At least 95% of questions aren't related to the "Who am I". Nor is life exactly about this task, but it's a central theme. And philosophy can and does go beyond it, it's an important early step.

Although we believe we can understand what another person is saying [meaning], we really can't in any substantive way. Get married and this is one of the first lessons you learn.

Allow me to explain further. Even understanding the simplest of things is an impossible task because each "thing" comes into being as a result of an infinite number of preceding events. Extrapolate this to a human being. Do you believe it is possible to understand another person's circumstances when they have no clue themselves?

This is the main issue with folks...they simply do not understand the limitations of their intellect. Although our cognition can allow us to do some rudimentary things, that's about it. And it appears to this observer that most life out on the planet seems to go about their lives with a great deal more efficiency than does our species.

Our intelligence is but a simple tool, one capable to accomplish elementary tasks but little more. It's just the way it is. No problem [unless you attempt to extract from our thinking more than it can give]. Look at the world we live in and how humans conduct themselves. Not a great case for an intellect that has much of a clue.

[Atla]

Fair enough.

All questions are really the same..."Who am I." Once you answer this question, then you have answered all questions.

Life is exactly about this task. Philosophy is a part of this journey, but a tool one discards after its utility is exhausted.

Still can't decipher it. At least 95% of questions aren't related to the "Who am I". Nor is life exactly about this task, but it's a central theme. And philosophy can and does go beyond it, it's an important early step.

Although we believe we can understand what another person is saying [meaning], we really can't in any substantive way. Get married and this is one of the first lessons you learn.

Allow me to explain further. Even understanding the simplest of things is an impossible task because each "thing" comes into being as a result of an infinite number of preceding events. Extrapolate this to a human being. Do you believe it is possible to understand another person's circumstances when they have no clue themselves?

This is the main issue with folks...they simply do not understand the limitations of their intellect. Although our cognition can allow us to do some rudimentary things, that's about it. And it appears to this observer that most life out on the planet seems to go about their lives with a great deal more efficiency than does our species.

Our intelligence is but a simple tool, one capable to accomplish elementary tasks but little more. It's just the way it is. No problem [unless you attempt to extract from our thinking more than it can give]. Look at the world we live in and how humans conduct themselves. Not a great case for an intellect that has much of a clue.

Most people are idiots, there are a few intelligent ones. Most people are bad at understanding others, a few are fairly good at it. Creating a space probe that can land on Mars is not a "rudimentary task". These issues aren't really related to the "who am I".

[simplicity]

Most people are idiots, there are a few intelligent ones. Most people are bad at understanding others, a few are fairly good at it. Creating a space probe that can land on Mars is not a "rudimentary task". These issues aren't really related to the "who am I".

Even the most intelligent human beings that have ever been could only do so much with our innate capacity. "Doing well" has little to do with intelligence, instead, clear perception and hard work are the keys.

Creating a space probe that can land on Mars might seem like a pretty nifty accomplishment but it pales when you observe how other species function.

The, "Who am I?," comes into play when you exhaust all the avenues for attempting to understand what's going on [intellectually]. Philosophy is a serious dead-end, as you might know. What lies beyond it [the non-intellectual], is where people find their answers.

Some believe this to be a cop-out, but I took the advice of the sages who have been down these paths over the millennia and decided to check it out myself and found my answers. And although it makes perfect sense to me, it is something you must discover on your own. Just like an advanced degree in some highly technical field cannot be conferred on you [without a great deal of study on your part], the same holds true for those who go down the non-intellectual path.

[Atla]

Most people are idiots, there are a few intelligent ones. Most people are bad at understanding others, a few are fairly good at it. Creating a space probe that can land on Mars is not a "rudimentary task". These issues aren't really related to the "who am I".

Even the most intelligent human beings that have ever been could only do so much with our innate capacity. "Doing well" has little to do with intelligence, instead, clear perception and hard work are the keys.

Creating a space probe that can land on Mars might seem like a pretty nifty accomplishment but it pales when you observe how other species function.

The, "Who am I?," comes into play when you exhaust all the avenues for attempting to understand what's going on [intellectually]. Philosophy is a serious dead-end, as you might know. What lies beyond it [the non-intellectual], is where people find their answers.

Some believe this to be a cop-out, but I took the advice of the sages who have been down these paths over the millennia and decided to check it out myself and found my answers. And although it makes perfect sense to me, it is something you must discover on your own. Just like an advanced degree in some highly technical field cannot be conferred on you [without a great deal of study on your part], the same holds true for those who go down the non-intellectual path.

I happen to have an extreme amount of experience with unusual states of mind (not through drugs, my case is much wilder than that) and I call bullshit on these "answers".

[simplicity]

Most people are idiots, there are a few intelligent ones. Most people are bad at understanding others, a few are fairly good at it. Creating a space probe that can land on Mars is not a "rudimentary task". These issues aren't really related to the "who am I".

Even the most intelligent human beings that have ever been could only do so much with our innate capacity. "Doing well" has little to do with intelligence, instead, clear perception and hard work are the keys.

Creating a space probe that can land on Mars might seem like a pretty nifty accomplishment but it pales when you observe how other species function.

The, "Who am I?," comes into play when you exhaust all the avenues for attempting to understand what's going on [intellectually]. Philosophy is a serious dead-end, as you might know. What lies beyond it [the non-intellectual], is where people find their answers.

Some believe this to be a cop-out, but I took the advice of the sages who have been down these paths over the millennia and decided to check it out myself and found my answers. And although it makes perfect sense to me, it is something you must discover on your own. Just like an advanced degree in some highly technical field cannot be conferred on you [without a great deal of study on your part], the same holds true for those who go down the non-intellectual path.

I happen to have an extreme amount of experience with unusual states of mind (not through drugs, my case is much wilder than that) and I call bullshit on these "answers".

Please enlighten me.

[Atla]

Even the most intelligent human beings that have ever been could only do so much with our innate capacity. "Doing well" has little to do with intelligence, instead, clear perception and hard work are the keys.

Creating a space probe that can land on Mars might seem like a pretty nifty accomplishment but it pales when you observe how other species function.

The, "Who am I?," comes into play when you exhaust all the avenues for attempting to understand what's going on [intellectually]. Philosophy is a serious dead-end, as you might know. What lies beyond it [the non-intellectual], is where people find their answers.

Some believe this to be a cop-out, but I took the advice of the sages who have been down these paths over the millennia and decided to check it out myself and found my answers. And although it makes perfect sense to me, it is something you must discover on your own. Just like an advanced degree in some highly technical field cannot be conferred on you [without a great deal of study on your part], the same holds true for those who go down the non-intellectual path.

I happen to have an extreme amount of experience with unusual states of mind (not through drugs, my case is much wilder than that) and I call bullshit on these "answers".

Please enlighten me.

How could I, you already found all the answers (or at least that's how it may seem to you).

[simplicity]

I happen to have an extreme amount of experience with unusual states of mind (not through drugs, my case is much wilder than that) and I call bullshit on these "answers".

Please enlighten me.

How could I, you already found all the answers (or at least that's how it may seem to you).

Perceiving with clarity will answer all of your questions.** ^^^

**100% guaranteed results or double your money back!!

^^^ Remember...the answer ALWAYS precedes the question.

[Atla]

Please enlighten me.

How could I, you already found all the answers (or at least that's how it may seem to you).

Perceiving with clarity will answer all of your questions.** ^^^

**100% guaranteed results or double your money back!!

^^^ Remember...the answer ALWAYS precedes the question.

You can demonstrate this by answering the ultimate philosophical question: why are we here?
(Why the human form, why this world, what's going on with this world, why are we here?)

[DPMartin]

How could I, you already found all the answers (or at least that's how it may seem to you).

Perceiving with clarity will answer all of your questions.** ^^^

**100% guaranteed results or double your money back!!

^^^ Remember...the answer ALWAYS precedes the question.

You can demonstrate this by answering the ultimate philosophical question: why are we here?
(Why the human form, why this world, what's going on with this world, why are we here?)

you can't answer why, you didn't make anything to do anything in this case, so you can't know why of your own intellect, unless that which made you to do, tells you.

every one has received the life they have, and probably will give it to others, but they did not make the life they have, (meaning life of a human being, or any other form of life on the planet for that matter)