What are 'goodies', and 'baddies', begin JUDGED UPON, EXACTLY, if NOT on 'conscience', itself?Ansiktsburk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:59 amIn other words, scoring on points or scoring on Ippon? Do you collect goodies and avoid baddies to put in that saint Peter scale. I am more of a do really good stuff and dont get too mean guy. The goodies of life has been provided from brains above average focussing on the tricky things they do.Janoah wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:36 pmbut which in principle is more important for a person, conscience or mean lifetime?Ansiktsburk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:07 pm Love is not particularly important at all. Conscience is a bit more noteworthy. But there’s stuff that increase mean lifetime and is succesful in decreasing poverty and stuff like that. More potent faculties in the well ordered brain.
Love and consciense, their primal supporters are mummies from well-off families wanting the best for their mediocre offspring. - as their real agenda. Probably a good thing in the hunter gatherer period.
Naughtiness should be quenched by well working institutions in the well ordered state.
What is primary, conscience or love?
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So, according to this so-called "logic" here, one can OBTAIN and USE as much of the earth's NECESSARY RESOURCES as one LIKES TO, because accordingly "they have ALL rights TO when it comes to their life". NO matter how much of the earth's OWN NECESSARY RESOURCES are NEEDED for 'its' OWN SURVIVAL, and NEEDED for 'its' current and future occupants, correct?
In other words do 'you', "bahman", REALLY BELIEVE that 'you', adult human beings, can USE UP, DESTROY, and/or POLLUTE ALL the 'air' AND 'water', which are ACTUALLY NECESSARY for sentient and non sentient life, ON EARTH, and that 'you', adults, NO 'rights' to lives of "others"? I KNOW that this is NOT what 'you' MEANT, but this is what 'you' are, literally, SAYING.
To me, 'you', adult human beings, HAVE ALL the Rights to LOVE and CARE for EARTH and for ALL of ITS inhabitants. Some might say and MORE SO for CHILDREN.
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Re: What is primary, conscience or love?
You tell meAge wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:29 amWhat are 'goodies', and 'baddies', begin JUDGED UPON, EXACTLY, if NOT on 'conscience', itself?Ansiktsburk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:59 amIn other words, scoring on points or scoring on Ippon? Do you collect goodies and avoid baddies to put in that saint Peter scale. I am more of a do really good stuff and dont get too mean guy. The goodies of life has been provided from brains above average focussing on the tricky things they do.
Love and consciense, their primal supporters are mummies from well-off families wanting the best for their mediocre offspring. - as their real agenda. Probably a good thing in the hunter gatherer period.
Naughtiness should be quenched by well working institutions in the well ordered state.
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Re: What is primary, conscience or love?
Skip those CAPITALS, makes what you read looking like a programming language.Age wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:19 amBut 'poverty' and 'success' are usually ONLY referenced in relation to 'money' ONLY. AND, 'money' is a Truly UNNECESSARY 'thing' in Life.Ansiktsburk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:07 pm Love is not particularly important at all. Conscience is a bit more noteworthy. But there’s stuff that increase mean lifetime and is succesful in decreasing poverty and stuff like that. More potent faculties in the well ordered brain.
Also, 'you' appear to be LOOKING FROM and SPEAKING ABOUT 'individual' persons here correct?
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Re: What is primary, conscience or love?
You tell that to all 18th centuty people losing half of their offspring at young age. And most people are happy to survive their 50th birthday. Love and consciene are not unimportant, but important on a much less important level.Janoah wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:59 amMay be. But why the goodies of life, if life without conscience. After all, conscience brings really gladness, and the goodies of life bring only pleasure.Ansiktsburk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:59 am The goodies of life has been provided from brains above average focussing on the tricky things they do.
Love and consciense, their primal supporters are mummies from well-off families
The most important thing you have to do is to find the job where your abilities serves commumity best and do that job damn well.
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interesting, but why is it necessary to serve the community?Ansiktsburk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:34 am
The most important thing you have to do is to find the job where your abilities serves commumity best and do that job damn well.
Re: What is primary, conscience or love?
What you are talking about?Age wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:38 amSo, according to this so-called "logic" here, one can OBTAIN and USE as much of the earth's NECESSARY RESOURCES as one LIKES TO, because accordingly "they have ALL rights TO when it comes to their life". NO matter how much of the earth's OWN NECESSARY RESOURCES are NEEDED for 'its' OWN SURVIVAL, and NEEDED for 'its' current and future occupants, correct?
In other words do 'you', "bahman", REALLY BELIEVE that 'you', adult human beings, can USE UP, DESTROY, and/or POLLUTE ALL the 'air' AND 'water', which are ACTUALLY NECESSARY for sentient and non sentient life, ON EARTH, and that 'you', adults, NO 'rights' to lives of "others"? I KNOW that this is NOT what 'you' MEANT, but this is what 'you' are, literally, SAYING.
To me, 'you', adult human beings, HAVE ALL the Rights to LOVE and CARE for EARTH and for ALL of ITS inhabitants. Some might say and MORE SO for CHILDREN.
Re: What is primary, conscience or love?
Does this mean that you do NOT know?Ansiktsburk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:22 amYou tell meAge wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:29 amWhat are 'goodies', and 'baddies', begin JUDGED UPON, EXACTLY, if NOT on 'conscience', itself?Ansiktsburk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:59 am
In other words, scoring on points or scoring on Ippon? Do you collect goodies and avoid baddies to put in that saint Peter scale. I am more of a do really good stuff and dont get too mean guy. The goodies of life has been provided from brains above average focussing on the tricky things they do.
Love and consciense, their primal supporters are mummies from well-off families wanting the best for their mediocre offspring. - as their real agenda. Probably a good thing in the hunter gatherer period.
Naughtiness should be quenched by well working institutions in the well ordered state.
If no, then WHY did you just NOT answer that CLARIFYING QUESTION?
And, if you had just ASKED me to CLARIFY what those things are being JUDGED UPON to me, then I would have just informed you that it was, and is, your OWN past experiences.
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Do NOT tell me what to do. UNDERSTOOD?Ansiktsburk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:25 amSkip those CAPITALS, makes what you read looking like a programming language.Age wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:19 amBut 'poverty' and 'success' are usually ONLY referenced in relation to 'money' ONLY. AND, 'money' is a Truly UNNECESSARY 'thing' in Life.Ansiktsburk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:07 pm Love is not particularly important at all. Conscience is a bit more noteworthy. But there’s stuff that increase mean lifetime and is succesful in decreasing poverty and stuff like that. More potent faculties in the well ordered brain.
Also, 'you' appear to be LOOKING FROM and SPEAKING ABOUT 'individual' persons here correct?
AND, CONTRARY to what 'you' SAID here, doing 'that' does NOT make what I read look like ANY such 'thing'.
So, I suggest 'you' choose your WORDS far more carefully, from now on.
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What you SAID and WROTE here.bahman wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:52 pmWhat you are talking about?Age wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:38 amSo, according to this so-called "logic" here, one can OBTAIN and USE as much of the earth's NECESSARY RESOURCES as one LIKES TO, because accordingly "they have ALL rights TO when it comes to their life". NO matter how much of the earth's OWN NECESSARY RESOURCES are NEEDED for 'its' OWN SURVIVAL, and NEEDED for 'its' current and future occupants, correct?
In other words do 'you', "bahman", REALLY BELIEVE that 'you', adult human beings, can USE UP, DESTROY, and/or POLLUTE ALL the 'air' AND 'water', which are ACTUALLY NECESSARY for sentient and non sentient life, ON EARTH, and that 'you', adults, NO 'rights' to lives of "others"? I KNOW that this is NOT what 'you' MEANT, but this is what 'you' are, literally, SAYING.
To me, 'you', adult human beings, HAVE ALL the Rights to LOVE and CARE for EARTH and for ALL of ITS inhabitants. Some might say and MORE SO for CHILDREN.
ANY one can CLEARLY SEE 'this'.
Re: What is primary, conscience or love?
Everybody has a right, such as minimum education, food to eat, a place to live, etc. The idea is to maximize the right of each person respecting rights of others.Age wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:40 amWhat you SAID and WROTE here.bahman wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:52 pmWhat you are talking about?Age wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:38 am
So, according to this so-called "logic" here, one can OBTAIN and USE as much of the earth's NECESSARY RESOURCES as one LIKES TO, because accordingly "they have ALL rights TO when it comes to their life". NO matter how much of the earth's OWN NECESSARY RESOURCES are NEEDED for 'its' OWN SURVIVAL, and NEEDED for 'its' current and future occupants, correct?
In other words do 'you', "bahman", REALLY BELIEVE that 'you', adult human beings, can USE UP, DESTROY, and/or POLLUTE ALL the 'air' AND 'water', which are ACTUALLY NECESSARY for sentient and non sentient life, ON EARTH, and that 'you', adults, NO 'rights' to lives of "others"? I KNOW that this is NOT what 'you' MEANT, but this is what 'you' are, literally, SAYING.
To me, 'you', adult human beings, HAVE ALL the Rights to LOVE and CARE for EARTH and for ALL of ITS inhabitants. Some might say and MORE SO for CHILDREN.
ANY one can CLEARLY SEE 'this'.
Re: What is primary, conscience or love?
EVERY one GETS so-called 'minimum education' naturally anyway.
EVERY new born, naturally, HAS a place to live anyway, well that is if 'you', adult human beings, do NOT destroy it first.
EVERY new born, naturally, HAS food to eat, again that is if 'you', adult human beings, do NOT first pollute too much.
Who's idea is this, EXACTLY?
EVERY one is born with an EQUAL AMOUNT OF, or with the EXACT SAME, so-called 'right/s'.
SAYING, " maximizing the right of 'one' while respecting the rights of "other" ", is just making COMPLEX 'that' what IS Truly SIMPLE.
That is; EVERY one has the EXACT SAME so-called 'rights'. Which one of them is that 'you', adult human beings, do NOT ABUSE absolutely ANY 'thing', which would OBVIOUSLY destroy what is NEEDED by, and thus a 'right' to, NEW BORN CHILDREN.
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That is my idea.Age wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:04 pmEVERY one GETS so-called 'minimum education' naturally anyway.
EVERY new born, naturally, HAS a place to live anyway, well that is if 'you', adult human beings, do NOT destroy it first.
EVERY new born, naturally, HAS food to eat, again that is if 'you', adult human beings, do NOT first pollute too much.
Who's idea is this, EXACTLY?
EVERY one is born with an EQUAL AMOUNT OF, or with the EXACT SAME, so-called 'right/s'.
SAYING, " maximizing the right of 'one' while respecting the rights of "other" ", is just making COMPLEX 'that' what IS Truly SIMPLE.
That is; EVERY one has the EXACT SAME so-called 'rights'. Which one of them is that 'you', adult human beings, do NOT ABUSE absolutely ANY 'thing', which would OBVIOUSLY destroy what is NEEDED by, and thus a 'right' to, NEW BORN CHILDREN.
Re: What is primary, conscience or love?
ANY 'idea' about HOW to 'TRY TO' "improve", or change, what is just PURELY SIMPLE, and NATURALLY PERFECT anyway, is OBVIOUSLY NEVER going to WORK.bahman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:27 pmThat is my idea.Age wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:04 pmEVERY one GETS so-called 'minimum education' naturally anyway.
EVERY new born, naturally, HAS a place to live anyway, well that is if 'you', adult human beings, do NOT destroy it first.
EVERY new born, naturally, HAS food to eat, again that is if 'you', adult human beings, do NOT first pollute too much.
Who's idea is this, EXACTLY?
EVERY one is born with an EQUAL AMOUNT OF, or with the EXACT SAME, so-called 'right/s'.
SAYING, " maximizing the right of 'one' while respecting the rights of "other" ", is just making COMPLEX 'that' what IS Truly SIMPLE.
That is; EVERY one has the EXACT SAME so-called 'rights'. Which one of them is that 'you', adult human beings, do NOT ABUSE absolutely ANY 'thing', which would OBVIOUSLY destroy what is NEEDED by, and thus a 'right' to, NEW BORN CHILDREN.
Re: What is primary, conscience or love?
Education.Age wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:38 pmANY 'idea' about HOW to 'TRY TO' "improve", or change, what is just PURELY SIMPLE, and NATURALLY PERFECT anyway, is OBVIOUSLY NEVER going to WORK.bahman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:27 pmThat is my idea.Age wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:04 pm
EVERY one GETS so-called 'minimum education' naturally anyway.
EVERY new born, naturally, HAS a place to live anyway, well that is if 'you', adult human beings, do NOT destroy it first.
EVERY new born, naturally, HAS food to eat, again that is if 'you', adult human beings, do NOT first pollute too much.
Who's idea is this, EXACTLY?
EVERY one is born with an EQUAL AMOUNT OF, or with the EXACT SAME, so-called 'right/s'.
SAYING, " maximizing the right of 'one' while respecting the rights of "other" ", is just making COMPLEX 'that' what IS Truly SIMPLE.
That is; EVERY one has the EXACT SAME so-called 'rights'. Which one of them is that 'you', adult human beings, do NOT ABUSE absolutely ANY 'thing', which would OBVIOUSLY destroy what is NEEDED by, and thus a 'right' to, NEW BORN CHILDREN.