Infanticide

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Humanity is on the verge of verifying that religion and in this case the essence of Christianity is complimentary with science.

That has never been in doubt. In fact, the scientific method was invented by a Christian. Science, as a discipline, would never have existed without the prior faith in a law-like universe, and the basis for that was faith in a rational, law-giver God.

Man is not lost.

God says he is. And unless he knows he is, he will not know salvation. People who don't believe they're sick don't seek a remedy. And people who don't know they're lost see no need for the Saviour.

Simone Weil has become known as the Patron Saint of the Outsiders. This means that there are a great many who have felt the depth an purpose of Christianity but doesn't find it in the corruptions of the church. These people know they are sick and starved for meaning. They need what the church as a whole doesn't offer. It isn't that they leave the church but that the church has left them. You may say that the person interested in Christianity must believe. But in realty the Christian must understand. But since we don't know what understanding means or what respect for life means, belief in idolatry means nothing.

The apostles asked Jesus to increase our faith. Apparently they didn't have it so how deep was their belief? Faith IN Christ is easy. But it is completely different than the faith OF Christ capable of a few. But who knows the difference?

She had at least 7 abortions.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I suppose it was because she didn't want to inflict her genes on any unfortunate child.

[Nick_A]

That has never been in doubt. In fact, the scientific method was invented by a Christian. Science, as a discipline, would never have existed without the prior faith in a law-like universe, and the basis for that was faith in a rational, law-giver God.

God says he is. And unless he knows he is, he will not know salvation. People who don't believe they're sick don't seek a remedy. And people who don't know they're lost see no need for the Saviour.

Simone Weil has become known as the Patron Saint of the Outsiders. This means that there are a great many who have felt the depth an purpose of Christianity but doesn't find it in the corruptions of the church. These people know they are sick and starved for meaning. They need what the church as a whole doesn't offer. It isn't that they leave the church but that the church has left them. You may say that the person interested in Christianity must believe. But in realty the Christian must understand. But since we don't know what understanding means or what respect for life means, belief in idolatry means nothing.

The apostles asked Jesus to increase our faith. Apparently they didn't have it so how deep was their belief? Faith IN Christ is easy. But it is completely different than the faith OF Christ capable of a few. But who knows the difference?

She had at least 7 abortions.

There are some people who get their kicks out of creating the most absurd but ugly rumors for the sake of enjoying shock value and giggle over it. I'll need more than Freud to figure that one out but the scary part is that it is more common than actually assumed.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Which was a kindness on her part. Not the kind of face you would want to inflict on someone you love.

[Walker]

There are some people who get their kicks out of creating the most absurd but ugly rumors for the sake of enjoying shock value and giggle over it. I'll need more than Freud to figure that one out but the scary part is that it is more common than actually assumed.

She’s trying to hang you by your own petard … of civil discourse.

In other words, according to her interpretation of Christianity, Christians who don’t turn the other cheek, are hypocrites. She's offering the shoe, to see if it fits.

If a Christian is angered by such attacks and the Christian needs to respond in kind, then that’s a revelation and a gift to the Christian.

If the Christian is not angered, but rather feels a spontaneous burst of compassion for the ignorance that causes the need to hurt, then that too is a gift of revelation to the Christian.

These observations about Christians, and baiting them, are likely apparent to everyone.

My impression is, and I may be wrong, that you are not angered but rather, feel spontaneous compassion in response to incidents of ignorance.

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I think that like any religion, Christianity advises particular behaviors that at first may feel unnatural. Behaviors such as, turning the other cheek.

Taking on faith that turning the other cheek is the proper response even though it doesn’t feel right, after practicing for a time one is rewarded with revelations that reveal a new mind, so to speak. A new state of consciousness that causes the previously prescribed behaviors, to now be behaviors that are spontaneously generated from the heart.

Spontaneous compassion in response to ignorance results in even-tempered, objective intellectualism. This is easy to spot in Christians. It’s what makes them so lovable.

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[vegetariantaxidermy]

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[Walker]

The question becomes, what is compassionate action? For example, is it more compassionate to allow ignorance to run rampant over civil discourse?

Consider the soldier, or the cop.

They do not act on behalf of themselves as individuals, nor has society set up their function to be judged as individuals, although they are so judged if they individually break the rules, or conspire to break the rules. Soldiers and cops act on behalf of institutions.

Christianity is also an institution, and those who defend it from ignorance act on behalf of Christianity, not on behalf of themselves.

This is why Jesus, as the living embodiment of Christianity, beat the beJesus out of the money-changers for disrespecting the temple.

By this example, we can see that when the individual is an agent of the society of Christianity, and is attacked as an agent of Christianity, then it’s not necessarily time for the individual to act on behalf of the individual, and turn the other cheek.

In fact, because Christianity is the target, there are appropriate times to kick ass as an agent of Christianity ... at least, given the example of Christ.

Statues and paintings from various traditions include the sword of justice and truth. As an aside, Buddhism incorporated fierce guardians of the Bon Po, to fit in with the local culture.

[Walker]

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What do you think that guy acting like a dog, gets out of the experience?

[Walker]

That latex is centered around imagination and needs, rooted in body/identity, modification, adornment … control, creation of a new bodycentric identity of the latexer’s choosing.

Plenty of folks remember Flip. He poked fun at Christianity in a gentle way, and his biggest fans were Christians. There was savage war in those days, too, but Flip was primetime. Cable TV changed the rules.

Reverend LeRoy is one of his characters who used to shout, “I will not be moved!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgwvSTzWF6w

Meaning of course, moved by temptation ... temptation calling from what got blurred out of those latex shots you like, Mistress VT.

[Immanuel Can]

Humanity is on the verge of verifying that religion and in this case the essence of Christianity is complimentary with science.

That has never been in doubt. In fact, the scientific method was invented by a Christian. Science, as a discipline, would never have existed without the prior faith in a law-like universe, and the basis for that was faith in a rational, law-giver God.

Man is not lost.

God says he is. And unless he knows he is, he will not know salvation. People who don't believe they're sick don't seek a remedy. And people who don't know they're lost see no need for the Saviour.

Simone Weil...

...is not an authority on anything, of course.

[Walker]

I only know of her what I get from Nick.

Didn't she write books?

[Nick_A]

The question becomes, what is compassionate action? For example, is it more compassionate to allow ignorance to run rampant over civil discourse?

Consider the soldier, or the cop.

They do not act on behalf of themselves as individuals, nor has society set up their function to be judged as individuals, although they are so judged if they individually break the rules, or conspire to break the rules. Soldiers and cops act on behalf of institutions.

Christianity is also an institution, and those who defend it from ignorance act on behalf of Christianity, not on behalf of themselves.

This is why Jesus, as the living embodiment of Christianity, beat the beJesus out of the money-changers for disrespecting the temple.

By this example, we can see that when the individual is an agent of the society of Christianity, and is attacked as an agent of Christianity, then it’s not necessarily time for the individual to act on behalf of the individual, and turn the other cheek.

In fact, because Christianity is the target, there are appropriate times to kick ass as an agent of Christianity ... at least, given the example of Christ.

Statues and paintings from various traditions include the sword of justice and truth. As an aside, Buddhism incorporated fierce guardians of the Bon Po, to fit in with the local culture.

The Christian knows what the Buddhists also know as written in the parable of the burning House. The Master has the problem of convincing the children that the house is on fire but they are only concerned with their toys and disputes inside the house oblivious that it is burning. Jesus had the same problem. How to make it possible to accept the help of the spirit when people don't realize they are caught up with the darkness of what Plato described as the Cave. How to awaken to the reality of the human condition rather than being guided by self serving imagination? As of now imagination is winning.

Simone Weil is a rarity in the human race especially as a woman. Where does one find the intellect of a scientist with the transcendent perspective of a mystic and the purity of heart to express it from the core of their being. Gurdjieff wrote of this rarity in his book "Meetings with Remarkable Men"

I must tell you that in our brotherhood there are two very old brethren; one is called Brother Ahl and the other Brother Sez. These brethern have voluntarily undertaken the obligation of periodically visiting all the monasteries of our order and explaining various aspects of the essence of divinity. Our order has four monasteries, one of them ours, the second in the valley of the Pamir, the third in Tibet and the fourth in India. And so these brethren, Ahl and Sez, constantly travel from one monastery to another and preach there.

They come to us twice a year. Their arrival at our monastery is considered among us a very great event. On the days when either of them is here, the soul of every one of us experiences pure heavenly pleasure and tenderness. The sermons of these two brethren, who are to an almost equal degree holy men and who speak the same truths, have nevertheless a different effect on all our brethren and on me in particular.

When Brother Sez speaks it is indeed like the song of the birds in Paradise; from what he says one is quite, so to say, turned inside out; one becomes as though entranced. His speech purls like a stream and one no longer wishes anything else in life but to listen to the voice of Brother Sez. But Brother Ahl's speech has almost the opposite effect. He speaks badly and indistinctly, evidently because of his age. No one knows how old he is. Brother Sez is also very old, but he is still a hale old man, whereas in Brother Ahl the weakness of old age is clearly evident.

The stronger the impression made at the moment by the words of Brother Sez, the more this impression evaporates until there ultimately remains in the hearer nothing at all. But in the case of Brother Ahl, although at first what he says makes almost no impression, later, the gist of it takes on definite form, more and more each day, and is instilled as a whole into the heart and remains there forever.

When we became aware of this and began trying to discover why it was so, we came to the unanimous conclusion that the sermons of Brother Sez proceeded only from his mind and therefore acted on our minds, whereas those of Brother Ahl proceeded from his being and acted on our being.

Yes, professor, knowledge and understanding are quite different. Only understanding can lead us to being whereas knowledge is but a passing presence in it.

Simone wrote from her being in these collections of letters and essays. The majority of current "experts" write from their mind and are caught up in self justification. Vege is caught up with a power trip so thinks the real woman is the same type of feminism. The power of the search for transcendent truth above vanity is not something she can understand. When a woman has these qualities it is something any man will admire. It doesn't require a collar and leash. It is just a rare admiration for quality

[Nick_A]

That has never been in doubt. In fact, the scientific method was invented by a Christian. Science, as a discipline, would never have existed without the prior faith in a law-like universe, and the basis for that was faith in a rational, law-giver God.

God says he is. And unless he knows he is, he will not know salvation. People who don't believe they're sick don't seek a remedy. And people who don't know they're lost see no need for the Saviour.

Simone Weil...

...is not an authority on anything, of course.

Albert Camus called her the only great mind of the times. She became an intellectual influence on Pope Paul V1.

Who has called you the only great mind of the times and have you become an intellectual influence on a Pope? If not, it just means that you are not an authority on anything.

[Immanuel Can]

Simone Weil...

...is not an authority on anything, of course.

Albert Camus called her...

Camus was so wrong on so many things.

She became an intellectual influence on Pope Paul V1.

That would explain a lot.

Who has called you the only great mind of the times

It depends on who calls you that. Camus and the Pope...well, why not Aleister Crowley and the Grand Dragon, too?

and have you become an intellectual influence on a Pope?

I would love to influence all the Popes to repent of being Popes. That would be great. But I don't think they'll ask me, because they have their own program.