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Dontaskme wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:48 am
Sculptor wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:30 pm

It is exactly the same, except that Putin is a lot more restrained than the US's numerous invasions in the last 60 years.
The only difference seems to be the colour of the skins of the invaded which seems to get a bigger response for them being white rather than dark as they were in Iraq twice, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Laos, Cuba, Cambodia, Vietnam, Grenada.. etc.

America absolutely leveled Iraq with the help of the UK. It's ironic seeing the West now condemn Putin for doing what they have done themselves.
This bit makes sense. The only word I would change is ironic. I'd change that to hypocritical.

Then what follows is the weirdness that earned you the ignore..

Karma I mean Kamala is a bitch and then you die..

Oneness has no argument with itself, always be yourself the real fictional character, always live beneath the bottom line.

Or play the game of wack-a-mole. It's a fun game if you are endorsing it. It's fun to die. War Video games prepared you for this.

Films prepared you for this. ( Hunger Games)

Those who are not a conspiracy theorist are not paying attention.
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Walker wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:01 pm Before you can venture philosophical answers you have to know the dualistic questions, and for that you need to know what’s happening now.
“freedom exists not in finding answers, but in the dissolution of all questions.”
― U.G. Krishnamurti




Human born of 'thought' is doomed to fail, because to fail to prepare for death, is to prepare to fail at life.

Freedom at zero point. Oneness has no argument with itself, and is why animals are luckier than humans. To be in denial of your real raw animalistic nature, is futile.


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Sculptor wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:33 pm
Then what follows is the weirdness that earned you the ignore..
You are only in conflict with yourself. What self is that?...that imagined other.

Personally, I do not care one iota whether what I say is right or wrong...all I have is my story which is my interpretation of what's happening. In reality, I have no idea what's happening except what I imagine.

Why do I say that, is because I have the language to do so, it's useful for communication with imagined other.

Animals don't intend to slaughter their prey, it's the natural play of life. Life is a barbaric serial killer full stop, because I can make that story up using words that have evolved as and through this sentient brain AKA the interpreter of SOUND.

Animals are natures experts at interpreting SOUND

Listening is more important than speaking.

You can ignore the tightrope walk that is the razors edge of creation, or you can take the chance and walk it anyway, knowing there will always be a high probablity of falling off.


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Here's one that I see twenty eight times a day on the CNN channel and I have no idea what's going on here. Are these guys twin brothers or gay lovers? If they're only twin brothers, why would they live with each other at that age? If they're only gay lovers, why would they look almost identical? Also, if they're twin brothers, how do they decide which one will have the beard and which one won't? Do they discuss this or does it just happen? And why is that white family visiting the black family? And why does that black family think they're white?

I haven't slept in three days because of this commercial.

https://youtu.be/0fRmg9w3hxg
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promethean75 wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:54 pm Here's one that I see twenty eight times a day on the CNN channel and I have no idea what's going on here. Are these guys twin brothers or gay lovers? If they're only twin brothers, why would they live with each other at that age? If they're only gay lovers, why would they look almost identical? Also, if they're twin brothers, how do they decide which one will have the beard and which one won't? Do they discuss this or does it just happen? And why is that white family visiting the black family? And why does that black family think they're white?

I haven't slept in three days because of this commercial.

https://youtu.be/0fRmg9w3hxg
What does this have to do with Ukraine?

BTW, tune in to Property Brothers on HGTV.
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promethean75 wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:54 pm Here's one that I see twenty eight times a day on the CNN channel and I have no idea what's going on here. Are these guys twin brothers or gay lovers? If they're only twin brothers, why would they live with each other at that age? If they're only gay lovers, why would they look almost identical? Also, if they're twin brothers, how do they decide which one will have the beard and which one won't? Do they discuss this or does it just happen? And why is that white family visiting the black family? And why does that black family think they're white?

I haven't slept in three days because of this commercial.

https://youtu.be/0fRmg9w3hxg
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Here's is something you might not see on US TV....

https://www.facebook.com/JimmyDoreShow/ ... 1297812132
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"What does this have to do with Ukraine?"

I just told you two pages ago. Capitalism is trying to desensitize me and keep me from concentrating on the Ukraine. How can I focus on my humanitarian efforts when those two weirdos come on the TV every five minutes.

"BTW, tune in to Property Brothers on HGTV"

I will not.
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commonsense wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:05 pm
promethean75 wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:54 pm Here's one that I see twenty eight times a day on the CNN channel and I have no idea what's going on here. Are these guys twin brothers or gay lovers? If they're only twin brothers, why would they live with each other at that age? If they're only gay lovers, why would they look almost identical? Also, if they're twin brothers, how do they decide which one will have the beard and which one won't? Do they discuss this or does it just happen? And why is that white family visiting the black family? And why does that black family think they're white?

I haven't slept in three days because of this commercial.

https://youtu.be/0fRmg9w3hxg
What does this have to do with Ukraine?
One possible take...

Try to think of ADT as Joe Biden. And Ukraine as your home.

Do you trust Joe Biden to protect you?

And how far do you insist that Joe should go to protect you against the "bad guys"?

What if the bad guys have access to nearly 6,000 nuclear warheads? What if confronting the bad guys might result in the total destruction of your home itself? And the homes of millions and millions of others just like you?

Really, for those here truly outraged at Putin, if you were Biden, how far would you go?

Of course, in the event of a nuclear war, as in Dr. Strangelove, Biden will be taken to an impregnable bunker somewhere. He and many with the wherewithal might survive even the nuclear winter.

But you and I?

What might our fate be if Joe goes for "the football"? This thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_football

That's what makes all this so different from Iraq and Afghanistan for Americans. With someone like Putin, Biden playing "macho man" can have truly dire consequences for all of us.
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promethean75 wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:25 pm "What does this have to do with Ukraine?"

I just told you two pages ago. Capitalism is trying to desensitize me and keep me from concentrating on the Ukraine. How can I focus on my humanitarian efforts when those two weirdos come on the TV every five minutes.

"BTW, tune in to Property Brothers on HGTV"

I will not.
I replied to your comments about commercial advertising in toto 2 pages ago, but I lost the connection with this specific commercial, probably due to your questions about genetics, gender, race and a beard.

Your point remains valid. Capitalism leads to distractions from what really matters in the world.
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"And how far do you insist that Joe should go to protect you against the "bad guys"?"

WW3 would be liberating for me, dude. How many times have I explained my 'situation' over at ILP? Have I not been clear?

I dunno maybe I should write an autobiography and post it in a sig box with the instructions: read first or you won't stand a chance at understanding my philosophy.

Seriously dude, what the fuck do I care about law and order? 'Law and order' has destroyed my life. I'd love nothing more than for it to break down completely.

You're talkin to a real live Joker bro. Like fer real.
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Lol @ the orangutan's claims that had he still been president, Putin wouldn't have attacked Ukraine. Let's examine this. If Putin didn't attack Ukraine, it wouldn't be because he feared a U.S. military response, because of Russia's strategic location. Only by air would any U.S. attack gain any footing.... and the U.S. isn't about to launch a fleet of aircraft carriers into the Atlantic only to have its jets shot down like quail over Russia. And they certainly aren't coming in on foot through China. That leaves entrance with and through eastern NATO countries. But clearly NATO isn't responding to the assault on Ukraine (policy reasons). So that doesn't fly. What's worse is that the orangutan wouldn't know that this is why it wouldn't fly; it's never crossed his mind what a declaration of war with Russia would entail save a nuclear one... which he'd never authorize (capitalists can't rent hotels out during a nuclear war).

Ah, it must be that he and Putin what... have some kind of secret thing together? Maybe the orangutan has dirt on Putin? I can't imagine the orangutan could offer Putin and/or his oligarchs a better business deal that could bring them more wealth than if they were to take over Ukraine to get ahold of its natural resources.

I know they're buddies, but only in the way that two disgusting capitalist fatbodies admire each other's ability as professional shysters. If they can't shyster something together, that friendship will quickly end. That's how it works.

I conclude that once again, the orangutan is just babbling to save face for having complimented Putin not three weeks ago before he started blowing up hospitals, schools and maternity wards.
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'Bret Stephens [at NYT]: Last week I joined a video call with the estimable Russia expert Fiona Hill to discuss the war in Ukraine. She warned that Vladimir Putin may already be laying the groundwork for the use of chemical or even tactical nuclear weapons should he fail to win quickly, perhaps through some “false flag” operation that he can blame on Ukraine or the United States.'

It's like being back in time...the Cuban Missile Crisis

Only back then the drama unfolded at a time when many were invested in the fate of the world ideologically.

America = capitalism.
The Soviet Union = socialism.

Today, crony capitalism and state capitalism run the world. Little is now ideological regarding the war in Ukraine.

And then the part where Vladimir Putin may really be a madman. The "X" factor. Also, to what extent is he intent on bringing back his own rendition of the Soviet Union? To what extent is he like Hitler in having grand designs for "his people"?

Uh, stay tuned.
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"Uh, stay tuned."

Copy that, ghost rider. I'm glued to the news. Bags are packed and weapons caches are stocked.
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