Impossibility of time travel

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Walker wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:47 am
Sculptor wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:29 pm DUH
Oh dear - another American without an imagination.
Da Vinci received parts of the formula from the future but understood according to his milieu. Like all things known to man, the formula broadcast to him from the future was also a compounded thing. In other words, key elements of the formula relied on materials and material processes not available at the time it was received, e.g., he couldn’t build a chopper that would take flight with foot power and wooden wings, the strength to weight ratio was all wrong, but he did receive elements of the design, and he was a dreamer.

The future can and did broadcast an image of Dick Tracy’s wristwatch to some past receivers with the fine tuning to pick-up bits and pieces of the future, and like da Vinci draw pictures about it, with some words for context. The future can broadcast things like Captain Kirk’s handheld communicator to certain past receivers that by providence or some other means have fine-tuned reception to the future's transmissions, however as far as we know there are no strong, modest men who can literally transcribe entire formulas from future receptions, seeing as how those formulas are comprised of compounded particulars not yet discovered, and seeing as how tight lips don’t sink ships.

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And after all that irrelevant typiing you still seem completely incapable of using your imagination to think of something that might be impossible.
What a dick!
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Walker wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:47 am
Sculptor wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:29 pm DUH
Oh dear - another American without an imagination.
Da Vinci received parts of the formula from the future but understood according to his milieu. Like all things known to man, the formula broadcast to him from the future was also a compounded thing. In other words, key elements of the formula relied on materials and material processes not available at the time it was received, e.g., he couldn’t build a chopper that would take flight with foot power and wooden wings, the strength to weight ratio was all wrong, but he did receive elements of the design, and he was a dreamer.

The future can and did broadcast an image of Dick Tracy’s wristwatch to some past receivers with the fine tuning to pick-up bits and pieces of the future, and like da Vinci draw pictures about it, with some words for context.
WHY do you say that 'the future' is broadcasting back' when it could just be some people are just envisioning 'the future' instead?
Walker wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:47 am The future can broadcast things like Captain Kirk’s handheld communicator to certain past receivers that by providence or some other means have fine-tuned reception to the future's transmissions, however as far as we know there are no strong, modest men who can literally transcribe entire formulas from future receptions, seeing as how those formulas are comprised of compounded particulars not yet discovered, and seeing as how tight lips don’t sink ships.

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The formula for HOW thee Truly peaceful world for EVERY one is ALREADY KNOWN by me. But was that, to you, because 'the future' was 'broadcasting', or because 'the future' was 'envisioned', or because I was just Truly OPEN, which allowed me to SEE and KNOW what thee ACTUAL Truth of 'things' IS?

Or, was there some other reason WHY I ALREADY KNOW this 'formula'?
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Sculptor wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:38 am And after all that irrelevant typiing you still seem completely incapable of using your imagination to think of something that might be impossible.
So you are saying imagining something that's impossible is ... impossible?

OK! I'm imagining exactly that then.
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Walker wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:48 am
Age wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:24 am WHY do you ASSUME the 'formula' is being, or even needed to be, broadcast back to 'you', human beings?
Sadly for those who quest with questions, detailed answers won’t survive transmissions from the future until the singularity occurs, at which time, some say time ends.

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How EXACTLY does one 'quest' WITHOUT 'questions'?

Also, what you just wrote here is fairly substantial PROOF that you have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA AT ALL WHY you ASSUME what you do here, and are just 'trying to' DETRACT from your INABILITY to back up and support your CLAIMS at all.

When these some people say 'time' ends when some IMAGINED 'singularity' occurs, do they ever EXPLAIN what that 'singularity' could be, let alone what 'it' is, EXACTLY, and do they ever explain what 'time' is, EXACTLY, and how 'time' could even end?
Walker wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:47 am Consider, for example, you may, or may not, think that you can control your use of CAPS.
Okay. I 'considered' if I could or could NOT control my use of capital letters.

And, now that I have thee ACTUAL IRREFUTABLE ANSWER I am considering where you will take this to next.
Walker wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:47 am Folks like to think they’re making such choices. However, you are actually tuned to something broadcasting from the future, tuned to some element of a formula, but it’s only a bit of the broadcast.
Now, you appear to be CLAIMING that this is IRREFUTABLY True and NOT just what you are ASSUMING.

Or, to you, can you NOT control what you ASSUME?

Also, WHY can you only receive a 'bit' of the 'broadcast' when there are "others", like 'me', who can receive FAR MORE than 'you'?

Furthermore, WHY are you NOT able to make choices, when "others", like 'me', CAN?
Walker wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:47 am But from that, and from da Vinci’s ruminations, we can figure that there is something significant in the future that involves CAPS, and you as receiver are choicelessly transmitting what you receive of that.
But I CHOOSE when to use capital letters and when to NOT use capital letters. I do this to HIGHLIGHT some words so that 'future', to 'you', posters, readers will be VERY EASILY able to SEE that even when I was HIGHLIGHTING some words, to 'you', to pass on particular messages 'you' STILL MISSED the ACTUAL message because of your CURRENTLY HELD BELIEFS and ASSUMPTIONS.
Walker wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:47 am You may think you know why you're doing it, but that’s just human nature to think that, it’s the image-of-God-the-creator that is inherently inviting the thought that any individual can control the CAP transmission. Folks ordering chaos is just what folks do, or try to, even with the weather.
If that is what 'you', human beings, think or do, then so be it.
Walker wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:47 am As an unsullied receiver, what you’re receiving and involuntarily transmitting as CAPS when you do receive it, would be a transmission from the future that causes you to in turn, transmit CAPS. This could be a tiny piece of the time-travel formula, a part of a relationship with some compounded thing as yet discovered, related in some way to the formula.

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If ANY one just wants to KNOW how to, what is Wrongly called, "time travel", then just let me know. I am, after all, here with 'you' NOW, ready to divulge and REVEAL what is YET to be learned and understood.
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Skepdick wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:36 pm
Sculptor wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:38 am And after all that irrelevant typiing you still seem completely incapable of using your imagination to think of something that might be impossible.
So you are saying imagining something that's impossible is ... impossible?

OK! I'm imagining exactly that then.
How the fuck can you infer that from what I said?
What I am saying is that Walker lacks sufficient imagination to think of something that might be impossible.
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Sculptor wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:20 pm How the fuck can you infer that from what I said?
What I am saying is that Walker lacks sufficient imagination to think of something that might be impossible.
So it's not impossible to think of something that's impossible?
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Skepdick wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:23 pm
Sculptor wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:20 pm How the fuck can you infer that from what I said?
What I am saying is that Walker lacks sufficient imagination to think of something that might be impossible.
So it's not impossible to think of something that's impossible?
What is the matter with you?
Have you had a brain fugue?
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Skepdick wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:23 pm So it's not impossible to think of something that's impossible?
Hardly! 99% of the things most people think and believe are impossible. Every religion, for example.
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RCSaunders wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:16 pm Hardly! 99% of the things most people think and believe are impossible. Every religion, for example.
You must have a theory of possibility juxtaposed with a theory of impossibility to be able to distinguish the possible from the impossible. Surely?
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Skepdick wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:55 pm
RCSaunders wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:16 pm Hardly! 99% of the things most people think and believe are impossible. Every religion, for example.
You must have a theory of possibility juxtaposed with a theory of impossibility to be able to distinguish the possible from the impossible. Surely?
Not sure what you mean. I suppose you have to have a theory of cold juxtaposed with a theory of hot, but just, "not hot," will do. So either way you like it:

Possible is juxtaposed with, "not impossible," or,
Impossible (not possible) is juxtaposed with, "possible."

Does that do it?
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RCSaunders wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:16 pm Not sure what you mean. I suppose you have to have a theory of cold juxtaposed with a theory of hot, but just, "not hot," will do. So either way you like it:

Possible is juxtaposed with, "not impossible," or,
Impossible (not possible) is juxtaposed with, "possible."

Does that do it?
Yes. Like that.

Help us draw the conceptual distinction between possible and not-possible (a.k.a impossible).
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RCSaunders wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:16 pm
Skepdick wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:23 pm So it's not impossible to think of something that's impossible?
Hardly! 99% of the things most people think and believe are impossible. Every religion, for example.
What EXACTLY within ANY 'religion' do you envision is impossible?

Without specific examples we have absolutely NOTHING to LOOK AT and SEE here.

Your words so far do NOT AT ALL back up and support your CLAIM here.
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RCSaunders wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:16 pm
Skepdick wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:23 pm So it's not impossible to think of something that's impossible?
Hardly! 99% of the things most people think and believe are impossible. Every religion, for example.
SO. Prove Panentheism is not the nature of reality (God).
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Sculptor wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:27 pm
Jori wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:32 am Time travel is science fiction. You cannot travel to the past because the past no longer exists. It's gone. Also you cannot travel to the future because it doesn't exist yet. One cannot go somewhere that does not exist.

The grandfather paradox can be solved by the creation of an alternative reality when the grandfather is killed. However another solution is simply that one cannot go back to the past to kill the grandfather in the first place.
Yes, you cannot go back.
But we are all travellers in time. We are all going forwards in time, and if you really want you can go much faster in time if you simply go very very fast.
The closer you get to the speed of light the faster your subjective time. This means if you travel near the speed of light then return to earth you will be in the future.
One can also leap time - s_leep. - when we sleep sometimes when we wake fills like a minute or two (hours later).

"Stasis" - is a plausible concept I think one day - to keep the body from ageing in a sleep like state to travel vast distances in space and time.

If one could travel faster than the speed of light, with the right equipment such as a huge radio receiver dish - one could plausibly (under those conditions) receive TV transmissions of Earth from eras such as the 60s etc. Yes, I believe that is nonsense in reality.

But ya, no past time travel, unless the Panetheistic God unraveled causality to a point in time. Or simulated what had been recorded (not time travel).
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Sculptor wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:38 am
And after all that irrelevant typiing you still seem completely incapable of using your imagination to think of something that might be impossible.
Say your pussy, childish insults to a man's face, and your face could easily be rearranged. Easily. :lol:
That's why you say it here, coward.

There's no need to pursue your erroneous premise of impossibility.

Nothing is impossible, although ignorance of conditions and elements that comprise a condition, abounds.

Not even a square circle is impossible, and your ignorance of the condition in which it exists, or could exist, is not an invalidation of the fact of life that, nothing is impossible.
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