A Philosophy of Mind

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Barbara Brooks
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Godfree,

Science is the instrument of reason Reason is nothing else than pure ideality, a mere implicit thought within self. science is sheer intelligence wisdom, insight, and understanding. It is also hypothetical, ideality; pure assumption. Science alone does away with hypothesis, and goes directly to the principle of Nature with the view to goodness and beauty.

Science starts purely by the light of reason visualizes by intelligence and attains the essence of Nature, and defines rationally ideal universal intimate immanent self and path of return.

The founder of science was Thales, the author of the Ionic sect born according to the best calculation in the first year of the 35th Olympiad 640 B.C., he thought the world was all embracing whole developed germ and that water was all powerful sustainer of life. Those times there were scholars who had considered the sun, mountains, earth, sea, rivers as independent powers revered as gods, but Thales, believed God is water.

There is even today science called Thalassography, a physical geography that treats the sea, the word Thalassocracy means mastery of the sea.


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Barbara , you would have made a good politician , I'm sitting here trying to work out if you answered any of my questions.
So are you saying that you can reason out that god exists???
if so how , I presume your not saying god is water.
"Science alone does away with hypothesis"
So what do you call scientific theory???
The big bang is at this stage still a theory,, science is full of theories.
Quantum physics , mainly theory.
So this principle of nature goodness and beauty ,
Is this what you call god???
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Godfree,

I worship the sun the utmost perfect being the well rounded, I do this daily. The sun can be neither larger or smaller in one part or another. Nor is there no other which prevents it from attaining to perfection.

The sun luminous matter is the reason why it shines in which sun reveals itself, is a un-resting whirlpool of pure velocity, and transparency that is everywhere present pure universal actuality that has the possibility of unifying with all things it enters in community with.

Everything exists because of sunlight. The earth is like a hollowed out place above ground and we see only shadows by sunlight on the opposite of this hollowed out place.
Earth has an atmosphere, a mixture of gases crucial for the survival of all living beings. The mixture are four, air fire, water and earth is The process perpetually ignited and incited by sun.
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Barbara , we seem poles apart , even though we both refer to science I get the feeling your not interested in my views or questions ,
If you want people to join in here , maybe you should actually answer a question every now and then
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Godfree,


I would love to. Who are you tell me about yourself.

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Barbara ,,
I am a 53 yr old guy from New Zealand, an Atheist , what are you??

How does "science alone do away with hypothesis"???

do you believe there is a god??? life after death??? a heaven???

you worship the sun??? really ,Ra the sun god???

you seem in your own little world , and quite happy to fill the thread with your own posts , if a tree falls in the desert , does anybody read your posts???
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Godfree,

Hypothesis means supposition or a proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation. Science that does away with hypothesis goes directly to the first principle meaning principle the fundamental truth or proposition that serves as the foundation for a system of belief or behavior or for a chain of reasoning of Nature which is science, starts re purely by the power of knowledge.

I believe God. God is good and as far as life after I know nothing about it.

I began worshiping the sun in 1984 something just came to me even before I knew of ancient Ra worshipers. I began praying everyday after I read Hegel’s Philosophy of Mind .

Philosophy of Mind has 1845 posts of that amount 352 people have written here. Iam not alone anymore then you are.

One of the hardest things to do is humble oneself to God.

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Far be it from me to defend BB's style but,
Godfree wrote:...does anybody read your posts???
appears to answer it's own question?
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What is best in knowledge lies in its scientific character. The very soul of all that has gone before, the simple bareness of infinity Socrates called Universal Blood or the Mind of the World.

"To consider nothing, is the way of error in which the ignorant and double minded mortals wander," said Parmenides. He believed thought was identical with being. Parmenides (Arist. Phys. p. 27b;31b): "Since the utmost limit of being is perfect, it resembles on every side the form of a well rounded sphere, which from its centre extends in all directions equally, for it can be neither larger or smaller in omne part or another. There is no non-being which prevents it from attaining to the like."
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Arising_uk wrote:Far be it from me to defend BB's style but,
Godfree wrote:...does anybody read your posts???
appears to answer it's own question?
I read the first page , only Barbara , I looked at the next page Barbara and one other comment.
I havn't looked at the rest of the thread , and why would you not defend BB's style??? ,
I have asked some direct questions and eventually got some answers,
and I thank you BB for the honesty.
It is fairly obvious that BB and I are very different,
but I was attempting to learn more about BB's philosophy,
and it seemed I needed to get BB's attention , as my first posts seemed to have been unanswered , almost ignored.
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Godfree,

This is Arising_uk style he butts in jabs at you and leaves without explaining his jabs. But he leaves the reader thinking I am a problem.

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Hi Godfree,

I am not quite sure Barbara has a "philosophy" so to speak. I think she is more interested in preserving the 'truths' of previous philosophers through her unique and poetic writings. Still, in doing that she creates something new and inevitably attracts people who wish to discourage her. Personally, I just like to read her for the change of pace she creates in the forum...even though I must admit I don't always understand . But then again, we don't always have to understand something to find it aesthetically pleasing.
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artisticsolution

Thanks you for your kind words. I find your art work is aesthetically pleasing also.

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Barbara Brooks wrote:Godfree,

This is Arising_uk style he butts in jabs at you and leaves without explaining his jabs. But he leaves the reader thinking I am a problem.

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I find this a touch unfair BB, as if someone was to read all your thread(as I have, including the ones on the old forum) they would find my objections to your style and your Hegelianism, and my acceptance of 'live and let live' and some defenses against those a lot more scathing than I have ever been.

I'll also jog your memory that the very first post you made in this 'blog' was upon MY original post, not yours, but did I complain that you hijacked mine? No. So the 'far be it from me...' was to explain my position as I doubt GF would have bothered or found my posts within this thread.

Although I accept that your jab is probably accurate but I prefer to think that I leave the reader thinking and hopefully willing to ask me a question.
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Arising_uk,

I always felt a grudge coming from you and wondered why. Actually I thought it was because I am a Hegelian.

Now I know. I would like you to know I am truly sorry I had no idea I intruded on your post I just plopped on in without a thought . Artisticsolutio is right, I am so busy more interested in preserving the 'truths' I did not think of other's feelings.

Please except my apology for I am fond of you, artisticsolution, mhoraine and others in this forum the last thing want to do is overstep my boundaries here.

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