Did Jesus resurrect in Heaven or in Hell?

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Did Jesus resurrect in Heaven or in Hell?

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Did Jesus resurrect in Heaven or in Hell?
Scriptures, as they often do, give both options as true.
The Bible does what it was created by the Jewish authors to do. Make us question and judge.
Without Midrash, the Bible is just another useless myth.
In one version, Jesus tells his fellow prisoner on the cross that they will both awaken in heaven.
Another version has Jesus awakening in hell, where he toils for 3 days.
One old adage might say, if one day is 1,000 years, Jesus is almost at his 2-year mark.
There is a confusion as to who received Jesus as a sacrifice, Satan, or the androgynous Yahweh.
If sacrificed to Satan, she rules the world.
If sacrificed to Yahweh, Jesus rules the world.
Into whose hands did Jesus ascend, Satan’s or Yahweh’s?
I cannot know where Jesus ended via the bible, but think there is a valuable moral lesson here, but do not quite have my finger on what it is. Help.
What is your best guess as to where Jesus is?
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The more important consideration is, why do stupid cunts give a shit?

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Greatest I am wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:43 pm Did Jesus resurrect in Heaven or in Hell?
Scriptures, as they often do, give both options as true.
The Bible does what it was created by the Jewish authors to do. Make us question and judge.
Without Midrash, the Bible is just another useless myth.
In one version, Jesus tells his fellow prisoner on the cross that they will both awaken in heaven.
Another version has Jesus awakening in hell, where he toils for 3 days.
One old adage might say, if one day is 1,000 years, Jesus is almost at his 2-year mark.
There is a confusion as to who received Jesus as a sacrifice, Satan, or the androgynous Yahweh.
If sacrificed to Satan, she rules the world.
If sacrificed to Yahweh, Jesus rules the world.
Into whose hands did Jesus ascend, Satan’s or Yahweh’s?
I cannot know where Jesus ended via the bible, but think there is a valuable moral lesson here, but do not quite have my finger on what it is. Help.
What is your best guess as to where Jesus is?
Regards
DL
When what the word 'jesus' means, and refers to, EXACTLY, which comes to light at and with 'the second coming of jesus', then what ACTUALLY happened and occurs will make far more, or PERFECT, SENSE.
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For those who believe it doesn't make a difference; for those who don't, it doesn't make a difference. The keyword here is resurrect; unlike real estate, the location doesn't matter.
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attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:21 pm The more important consideration is, why do stupid cunts give a shit?

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I see where you are coming from and agree from a belief in myths POV.

I chose to do as I do to reduce the harm that the right wings are doing to women and gays, as they are the religions longest lasting victims of discrimination without a just cause.

It is not much but I have nothing better to do with my time left.

Payback for a near perfect life.

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Greatest I am wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:13 am
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:21 pm The more important consideration is, why do stupid cunts give a shit?

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I see where you are coming from and agree from a belief in myths POV.

I chose to do as I do to reduce the harm that the right wings are doing to women and gays, as they are the religions longest lasting victims of discrimination without a just cause.

It is not much but I have nothing better to do with my time left.

Payback for a near perfect life.

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DL
Ok then.
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Age wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:57 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:43 pm Did Jesus resurrect in Heaven or in Hell?
Scriptures, as they often do, give both options as true.
The Bible does what it was created by the Jewish authors to do. Make us question and judge.
Without Midrash, the Bible is just another useless myth.
In one version, Jesus tells his fellow prisoner on the cross that they will both awaken in heaven.
Another version has Jesus awakening in hell, where he toils for 3 days.
One old adage might say, if one day is 1,000 years, Jesus is almost at his 2-year mark.
There is a confusion as to who received Jesus as a sacrifice, Satan, or the androgynous Yahweh.
If sacrificed to Satan, she rules the world.
If sacrificed to Yahweh, Jesus rules the world.
Into whose hands did Jesus ascend, Satan’s or Yahweh’s?
I cannot know where Jesus ended via the bible, but think there is a valuable moral lesson here, but do not quite have my finger on what it is. Help.
What is your best guess as to where Jesus is?
Regards
DL
When what the word 'jesus' means, and refers to, EXACTLY, which comes to light at and with 'the second coming of jesus', then what ACTUALLY happened and occurs will make far more, or PERFECT, SENSE.
Try English, and thinking of the immorality of you wishing Armageddon and mass murder on us.

Take your death wish for me and shove it up your own ass.

You really know how to apply the Golden Rule. Not.

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Greatest I am wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:17 am
Age wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:57 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:43 pm Did Jesus resurrect in Heaven or in Hell?
Scriptures, as they often do, give both options as true.
The Bible does what it was created by the Jewish authors to do. Make us question and judge.
Without Midrash, the Bible is just another useless myth.
In one version, Jesus tells his fellow prisoner on the cross that they will both awaken in heaven.
Another version has Jesus awakening in hell, where he toils for 3 days.
One old adage might say, if one day is 1,000 years, Jesus is almost at his 2-year mark.
There is a confusion as to who received Jesus as a sacrifice, Satan, or the androgynous Yahweh.
If sacrificed to Satan, she rules the world.
If sacrificed to Yahweh, Jesus rules the world.
Into whose hands did Jesus ascend, Satan’s or Yahweh’s?
I cannot know where Jesus ended via the bible, but think there is a valuable moral lesson here, but do not quite have my finger on what it is. Help.
What is your best guess as to where Jesus is?
Regards
DL
When what the word 'jesus' means, and refers to, EXACTLY, which comes to light at and with 'the second coming of jesus', then what ACTUALLY happened and occurs will make far more, or PERFECT, SENSE.
Try English,
What part/s of my sentence, IN "engligh", do you NOT comprehend and/or understand, EXACTLY?
Greatest I am wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:17 am and thinking of the immorality of you wishing Armageddon and mass murder on us.
LOL WHEN have ever wished such a thing as mass murder on (whoever or whatever) 'us' IS, EXACTLY?

Also, besides evolving into existence, 'armageddon' was the BEST thing that EVER happened and occurred to 'you', human beings.
Greatest I am wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:17 am Take your death wish for me and shove it up your own ass.
I REALLY have ABSOLUTELY NO idea NOR clue what you are referring to, EXACTLY?

There is NOT even a word in my quoted sentence above that refers to 'death' AT ALL.

So, WHERE EXACTLY are you getting this "death wish" INTERPRETATION or ASSUMPTION from, EXACTLY?
Greatest I am wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:17 am You really know how to apply the Golden Rule. Not.

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DL
LOOK, when you LEARN what the word 'jesus' refers to, EXACTLY, which its reference fits in with EVERY thing else PERFECTLY to form One UNIFIED crystal clear Picture, then what ACTUALLY happened in your opening post words and what will occur, will make FAR MORE, or PERFECT, SENSE, to 'you'.

Which would NOT be to hard consider just how CONFUSED you REALLY ARE here, now.
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Greatest I am wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:43 pm Did Jesus resurrect in Heaven or in Hell?
The way I read it, in a dark crypt on Earth. Then he made a speech, then he ascended. If heaven is ^ and hell is v from here, I guess he must have gone to heaven.
Scriptures, as they often do, give both options as true.
Book, chapter, verse?
The Bible does what it was created by the Jewish authors to do.
The bible as most people know it today was not "created" by Jewish authors to serve a purpose. Many Jewish authors over many generations chronicled their people's stories, and some editor(s) collected and archived those writings. Probably a fraction of them survived to become the holy scripture of modern Judaism. The surviving documents were then scrutinized and selected by Christian editors. The New Testament was collected, scrutinized and selected from later, Judeo-Roman documents of dubious origin.
Without Midrash, the Bible is just another useless myth.
What are the other 'useless myths' and what makes a myth useful?
In one version, Jesus tells his fellow prisoner on the cross that they will both awaken in heaven.
Another version has Jesus awakening in hell, where he toils for 3 days.
Citation, please. (Not from Revelation)
One old adage might say, if one day is 1,000 years, Jesus is almost at his 2-year mark.
What culture does that old adage come from, and how is it relevant?
There is a confusion as to who received Jesus as a sacrifice, Satan, or the androgynous Yahweh.
In whose mind is this confusion?
If sacrificed to Satan, she rules the world.
If sacrificed to Yahweh, Jesus rules the world.
Who's going to tell Putin?
Into whose hands did Jesus ascend, Satan’s or Yahweh’s?
Or maybe he just took off on his own?
I cannot know where Jesus ended via the bible, but think there is a valuable moral lesson here,
Why?
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It is not Jesus who got resurrected; Jesus was a man. It was Christ Who got resurrected; Christ is God and His presence in the world is visible in acts of loving kindness.
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Greatest I am wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:43 pm Did Jesus resurrect in Heaven or in Hell?
The question, like the subject, is stupid.

"Resurrect," is a, "transitive," verb. No one, "resurrects." One can only be resurrected.

Before tackling theology, perhaps you need to brush up your English grammar.
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Age wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:34 am
Greatest I am wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:17 am
Age wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:57 pm

When what the word 'jesus' means, and refers to, EXACTLY, which comes to light at and with 'the second coming of jesus', then what ACTUALLY happened and occurs will make far more, or PERFECT, SENSE.
Try English,
What part/s of my sentence, IN "engligh", do you NOT comprehend and/or understand, EXACTLY?
Greatest I am wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:17 am and thinking of the immorality of you wishing Armageddon and mass murder on us.
LOL WHEN have ever wished such a thing as mass murder on (whoever or whatever) 'us' IS, EXACTLY?

Also, besides evolving into existence, 'armageddon' was the BEST thing that EVER happened and occurred to 'you', human beings.
Greatest I am wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:17 am Take your death wish for me and shove it up your own ass.
I REALLY have ABSOLUTELY NO idea NOR clue what you are referring to, EXACTLY?

There is NOT even a word in my quoted sentence above that refers to 'death' AT ALL.

So, WHERE EXACTLY are you getting this "death wish" INTERPRETATION or ASSUMPTION from, EXACTLY?
Greatest I am wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:17 am You really know how to apply the Golden Rule. Not.

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DL
LOOK, when you LEARN what the word 'jesus' refers to, EXACTLY,
If you had a clue, you would teach and not just complain of your inadequacies in teaching.

You do not like to apply the Golden Rule to Yahweh, as you can easily see he, being genocidal, is just what you like in a god.

Go play your one up-manship garbage ego games elsewhere.

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Belinda wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:06 pm It is not Jesus who got resurrected; Jesus was a man. It was Christ Who got resurrected; Christ is God and His presence in the world is visible in acts of loving kindness.
You have seen Jesus!

Tell us where?

BTW, Jesus was never anointed to Christ status.

Prove me wrong.

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Skip wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:08 am
Greatest I am wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:43 pm Did Jesus resurrect in Heaven or in Hell?
The way I read it, in a dark crypt on Earth. Then he made a speech, then he ascended. If heaven is ^ and hell is v from here, I guess he must have gone to heaven.
Scriptures, as they often do, give both options as true.
Book, chapter, verse?
The Bible does what it was created by the Jewish authors to do.
The bible as most people know it today was not "created" by Jewish authors to serve a purpose. Many Jewish authors over many generations chronicled their people's stories, and some editor(s) collected and archived those writings. Probably a fraction of them survived to become the holy scripture of modern Judaism. The surviving documents were then scrutinized and selected by Christian editors. The New Testament was collected, scrutinized and selected from later, Judeo-Roman documents of dubious origin.
Without Midrash, the Bible is just another useless myth.
What are the other 'useless myths' and what makes a myth useful?
In one version, Jesus tells his fellow prisoner on the cross that they will both awaken in heaven.
Another version has Jesus awakening in hell, where he toils for 3 days.
Citation, please. (Not from Revelation)
One old adage might say, if one day is 1,000 years, Jesus is almost at his 2-year mark.
What culture does that old adage come from, and how is it relevant?
There is a confusion as to who received Jesus as a sacrifice, Satan, or the androgynous Yahweh.
In whose mind is this confusion?
If sacrificed to Satan, she rules the world.
If sacrificed to Yahweh, Jesus rules the world.
Who's going to tell Putin?
Into whose hands did Jesus ascend, Satan’s or Yahweh’s?
Or maybe he just took off on his own?
I cannot know where Jesus ended via the bible, but think there is a valuable moral lesson here,
Why?
I do not have time at present to do all the leg work you would likely reject anyway.

Regards
DL
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Oh, for god's sake, who gives a crap but for the idiots who still believe that an ancient outworn story is true. Resurrections were as common as dirt in those times; it requires a certain amount of insanity to insist it's all true millenniums later. If the plagiarized Jesus story resembled a picture puzzle, hardly any of the pieces would match without all the gross distortions being revealed. If at the time it emerged, it would be wrong to call it a tale told by an idiot, it takes an idiot to believe it now.
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