The Left Destroys EVERYTHING It Touches

[Age]

When American policemen shoot an unarmed black man in his back, and when an American policeman is filmed deliberately suffocating a black man in full public view, that is racism among the police force.

Nope. Mebbe you got two racists. You don't got institutional racism.

What does 'institutional racism' mean or refer to, to you?

When a so -called militiaman takes a weapon out to kill and wound black people and is not punished for doing so that is no meme that is racism.

You're takin' about the Rittenhouse kid? He shot three white guys, killin' two and cripplin' the third.

Which was PERFECTLY FINE in "henry quirk's" 'world', correct?

After all that person was just walking around the streets with a semi-automatic rifle "protecting stuff".

I'd be fearful of visiting America in case white policemen break into my house while I am lying in my bed and shoot me dead as has also happened in America and that was no meme that was racism.

That's like sayin' you're a'fear'd to cross a street at the crosswalk cuz a driver just might run you down. It happens, but not with regularity. If folks were gettin' off'd at crosswalks everyday, everywhere; if cops were breakin' into homes killin' folks everywhere, every day: you'd hear about it.

It is NOT even POSSIBLE for these things to happen "EVERYDAY", "EVERYWHERE". So, the rest is moot.

You don't. And when cops do overstep it's front page, headline, top story news...for days, weeks, even. Why? Cuz it's rare.

So, if something like this happens is rare, then we would hear about, AND, if something like this happens EVERYWHERE, EVERYDAY or NOT rare, then we would also hear about it, correct?

As I say, racists exist. They don't, however, dominate American life.

If you would like to delve into this further, then the EXACT OPPOSITE could be UNCOVERED, and REVEALED.

I'll put it simply so you might possibly understand.

How can you lecture me on what you don't understand?

You don't understand diddly, B.

You've been told a certain thing, you conduct that thing, and you never question it.

You're a mouthpiece.

[Age]

The policemen do these violent acts in full public view because they don't expect to be brought to justice (or even lose their jobs) for breaking the law.

And often they end up in jail.

You're doin' yourself a disservice, B, by takin' individual events and generalizin' 'em.

You believe all cops do wrong, and none face consequences when they do.

That's a lie: you're spreadin' a lie.

Did "belinda" say what you CLAIM here? Or, are you just ASSUMING "belinda" BELIEVES this?

And, if "belinda" is allowed to speak, i will be VERY SURPRISED if "belinda" BELIEVES ALL cops do wrong, and NONE of them face consequences when they do.

If "belinda" does NOT, then, ONCE AGAIN, here is ANOTHER GREAT example of HOW and WHEN one's ASSUMPTIONS can lead them completely ASTRAY.

But, if "belinda" does, then, ONCE AGAIN, here is ANOTHER GREAT example of HOW and WHEN one's ASSUMPTIONS can lead them completely ASTRAY.

There are bad cops, dentists, plumbers, pilots, sculptors, etc. There are racists. But there's no such animal as institutional racism. It does not exist. It drives nuthin' cuz it's a fiction promoted by them professional instigators I talk about upthread and spread by well-meanin' dupes.

Did you also CLARIFY what 'institutional racism' even means or refers to, to you?

[Belinda]

No.

Because they can enrich themselves and increase their prestige personally, and people from other tribes don't matter. So they will collude with whomever will benefit them, be they corporations, governments, ideologues, or crime lords.

You don't get it: they don't care about "humanity." And they're not "Capitalist." Most are nominally Socialist, like Mugabe, and practically Egocentric or Tribalist, just like Amin.

You don't understand Africa. They're not your European context.

Yes, but it so happens that it multinational capitalist enterprise (i.e. not communist enterprise) that is spectacularly failing to invest West African natural resources in Africa.

Actually, China is all over Africa. They're buying up everything, using Africa as a colonial property.

Just go and visit, and you'll see.

Indeed and that is an example of how China's economy is capitalist.The old Adam, Immanuel, will not be beaten despite new ideologies such as communism.

"Economists call China's economy a socialist market economy"

The Communist Party of China maintains that despite the co-existence of private capitalists and entrepreneurs with public and collective enterprise, China is not a capitalist country because the party retains control over the direction of the country, maintaining its course of socialist development.

Wikipedia.

Economic colonisation with extraction of natural resources is capitalism and gives nothing back to the native labourers.

[Immanuel Can]

new ideologies such as communism.

Communism's not "new," B. It's been around since Marx, and we know exactly what it does. It does the same thing every time.

"Economists call China's economy a socialist market economy"

Yes. It's also called "Red Capitalism."

Check out the facts: China's economy was backward and moribund under Socialist policies. It was failing. The first success came with the "free" zones China adopted to experiment with Capitalism. But then it expanded its practice. And all of China's success has come not from Socialism, but from abandoning it.

However, "Red Capitalism" is not free capitalism. It's capitalistic method, plus a totalitarian, Communist regime. That hybrid monster is China's big achievement. They've proved that capitalism does not automatically produce freedom; it can be melded with authoritarian politics, and used to attack the rest of the world economically That's bad news for everyone.

Economic colonisation with extraction of natural resources is capitalism and gives nothing back to the native labourers.

It's worse than you know, maybe, B. It's not just that China is colonizing Africa in the old "settler" way; it's that they're buying up all key infrastructure assets, such as roads and ports, as well...so that they have a stranglehold on the entire economy, of all residents -- black, brown, white, and everything else. China's turning Africa into its natural resource "milk cow."

[henry quirk]

"Red Capitalism."

State Capitalism, which is about as far away from Free Enterprise as you can get.

(edited slightly from the original posting)

By definition: Capitalism is only about 'capital', so it's natural for the Capitalist to see himself protected by the Big Stick, hence he works to see regs minimized on himself and maximized on his competition. The Capitalist always has an eye open for bringing every penny into 'his' coffers (not his competitor's and sure as shit not his customer's or employee's). Capitalism is an exercise that promotes intrusive, irresponsible, playin' the favorites, muckin' with the culture, rule by the powerful.

By definition: Free Enterprse is only about the trading individual as he transacts with other trading individuals. The Big Stick is excluded ('cept mebbee as final arbiter of dispute) so it's natural for the Free Enterpriser to be cautious and moderate (he has no safety net to catch him or teat to nourish in bad times). 'Too big to fail' is alien to the Free Enterpriser cuz the reality of failure looms (the wolf is always at the door). Free Enterprise promotes less intrusive, responsible, largely silent, neutral, proxy-hood.


In my case: while defintions and whatnot come from dictionaries and whatnot, my experience of the difference between Free Enterprise and Capitalism is first hand.

As I say: I self-employ, and I do so in a gray area sphere (information). I find it, convey it, wash my hands of it. What I do is largely unregulated ('cept by 'legit' private investigators who are always lookin' to call down the fire on someone they think is takin' their business). Mine is truly a 'free' enterprise. I have no formal regulators to oversee me, no safety net, no teat. If I don't work, or if I work but fail, there's no line for me to stand in to get a check. If I'm screwed over by a client, the current iteration of the courts is of little use to me.

Having worked 9 to 5, with all the benefits and all the strictures, serving multiple overseers, ain't no way in Heaven or Hell I'd ever give up the autonomy I have now for the 'security' I had then.

As I reckon things: Free Enterprise, with all it's dangers and neck-breakin', life-wreckin' possibilities, is superior to State Capitalism with it's abattoir-like confinements and 'regulations'. Only thing State Capitalism is better than is State Socialism (and not by much).

Free enterprise, for the record, is synonomous with 'free (open, unregulated) market' (something Capitalists discourage [which makes them different from commies how?]).


Bonus Material (included cuz I like it)

It was said [by someone, I don't recall who]...

"Yeah, this is why I've evolved into more of a pragmatist. To become such an individualist that you oppose government assisting in the liberation of others makes no sense to me. Government exists, if you want good governance you have to engage with it. Libertarianism has become a way to convince people not to engage with their government assuring government which does not represent their interests."

My translation...

Yeah, this is why I've evolved into a slave. To be a free man and oppose being turned into a resource for others makes me scared. Governors exist. And, since we all want to be on the governors' good side we should do as told. Libertarianism is 'bad' because it reminds people the governors are employees and governors don't like that. Libertarianism is 'wrong' because it highlghts the natural tension between those who govern and those governed, a tension governors very much want to eliminate so as to better 'govern' (rule).

...summed up as...

I've accepted my lot, which is to be bent over. Libertarians, with all their shennanigans, endanger my lube supply.

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some thoughts on categories & employment...

a state capitalism (what 'murica has right now) encourages accumulation of wealth in increasingly fewer hands...it's a means by which wealthy folks can buy a measure of favor and insulation from the gov in the form of legislation...it's a less than stellar choice of an economy for free men

though imperfect, it's an open system: anyone can climb the ladder...anyone, at anytime...if bein' rich is your goal, there's no damn reason you can't be...it will not be easy...you'll forsake many comforts and pleasures...it is what it is


a state communism (what so many want 'murica to embrace, and which includes all the subsets [social democracy, socialism, etc.]) promises a chicken in every pot (one scrawny bird, one rusty pot), and a roof over every head (a tar paper roof over submissive [or bloody] heads)...you'll have equality (with the lowest among you), safety (eyes & ears, watchin', listenin'; jackboots to stomp wrong-doers (be careful that ain't you), and a central committee to benevolently oversee you (and keep you in line)

it's a closed system...advancement comes only as your value in keepin' the machine runnin' is proven...your wants, your needs, your goals, your dreams: sorry, brother, there is no your, there's only our, so drop the y, reject the I, and embrace the party (the one, the only)


your salvation, should you choose to pursue it, is not to be found in the state capitalism (by far, not the worst thing to saddle yourself with) or the state communism (a pretty damn awful thing by any measure)...no, only free enterprise can save you, and that means self-employin'...no man is meant to work in perpetuity for another...the apprentice becomes a master, the student becomes the teacher, the child becomes a parent

I'm sub-normal yet I successfully self-employ: me and mine have shelter (actual slate shingles), food (all kinds of good eatin'), safety (we're a gun-ownin' family), and various comforts & pleasures...most important: we're free

if I can do it: there's no reason any of you ought to be on the dole or workin' the 9 to 5

best thing of all: free enterprise works everywhere, all the time...even in the midst of a well-established state communism (what do you think gray & black markets are?)

so: stop bellyachin' and get to work

[henry quirk]

China's turning Africa into its natural resource "milk cow."

As they're doin' here, in America.

Gonna be a sad day, for them, when Americans give 'em theand refuse to pay tribute or recognize Chinese deeds of ownership. One can hope Africans do the same.

[henry quirk]

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the- ... n-protests

[FlashDangerpants]

China's turning Africa into its natural resource "milk cow."

As they're doin' here, in America.

Gonna be a sad day, for them, when Americans give 'em theand refuse to pay tribute or recognize Chinese deeds of ownership. One can hope Africans do the same.

Isn't the sacred status of legally acquired property the very first and most important principle of your entire moral schema Henry?

[henry quirk]

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the- ... n-protests

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mJqyKEWg6 ... e=youtu.be

[henry quirk]

China's turning Africa into its natural resource "milk cow."

As they're doin' here, in America.

Gonna be a sad day, for them, when Americans give 'em theand refuse to pay tribute or recognize Chinese deeds of ownership. One can hope Africans do the same.

Isn't the sacred status of legally acquired property the very first and most important principle of your entire moral schema Henry?

Nope: morally acquired property (which you'd know if you bothered to understand my position).

Ain't nuthin' moral about a slaver state.

[FlashDangerpants]

China's turning Africa into its natural resource "milk cow."

As they're doin' here, in America.

Gonna be a sad day, for them, when Americans give 'em theand refuse to pay tribute or recognize Chinese deeds of ownership. One can hope Africans do the same.

Isn't the sacred status of legally acquired property the very first and most important principle of your entire moral schema Henry?

Nope: morally acquired property (which you'd know if you bothered to understand my position).

Ain't nuthin' moral about a slaver state.

That's weird, I always though that property was the basis of your morality thing. But now morality turns out to be the basis of the property thing.

[henry quirk]

Isn't the sacred status of legally acquired property the very first and most important principle of your entire moral schema Henry?

Nope: morally acquired property (which you'd know if you bothered to understand my position).

Ain't nuthin' moral about a slaver state.

That's weird, I always though that property was the basis of your morality thing. But now morality turns out to be the basis of the property thing.

A man belongs to himself.

His life, liberty, and property are his.

Try again, flash.

[FlashDangerpants]

Nope: morally acquired property (which you'd know if you bothered to understand my position).

Ain't nuthin' moral about a slaver state.

That's weird, I always though that property was the basis of your morality thing. But now morality turns out to be the basis of the property thing.

A man belongs to himself.

His life, liberty, and property are his.

Try again, flash.

So the property he sells to somebody else becomes the property of that other person?

Where does this becom conditional on you approving of the owner?

[henry quirk]

That's weird, I always though that property was the basis of your morality thing. But now morality turns out to be the basis of the property thing.

A man belongs to himself.

His life, liberty, and property are his.

Try again, flash.

So the property he sells to somebody else becomes the property of that other person?

Where does this becom conditional on you approving of the owner?

So, you approve of slavers...them folks just have different cultural imperatives...ain't nuthin' wrong with slavery.

Okeedoke.

The free man can have no truck with the slaver

[FlashDangerpants]

A man belongs to himself.

His life, liberty, and property are his.

Try again, flash.

So the property he sells to somebody else becomes the property of that other person?

Where does this becom conditional on you approving of the owner?

So, you approve of slavers...them folks just have different cultural imperatives...ain't nuthin' wrong with slavery.

Okeedoke.

The free man can have no truck with the slaver

The property a man sells was his property for him to sell, yes or no?
This shit is supposed to be sacred to you Henry.