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The Creation of the Term "God"
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Re: The Creation of the Term "God"
Giving any characteristic to some supernatural god is to limit his choices.Age wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:17 amIn regards to 'what', exactly?What is the 'mind', to you, exactly?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:58 pm I am more of an esoteric ecumenists and am more open minded.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:58 pm This might help show my view. I like his thinking, but the the goof ends in idol worshiping Jesus, while ignoring the poor morality in him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkZg1ZflpJs
I don't think we are thinking that differently. I just have looser terms.
Have you ever noted how Yahweh was portrayed as androgynous before Christianity took the feminine out of the Jewish god?
That is also why Christians had to invent the rib woman for Adam.
Now Adam could go fuck himself. Joking.
Sorry. I could not help that last.
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To say that Yahweh is male, when the Jews saw Yahweh as androgynous, is a quite the reach.
Mind you, custom had most people using father to designate god.
The mind is well defined in the dictionaries and I offer no new definition.
Your mind is where you invented whatever ideals you might see in a god.
All god are man made.
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Re: The Creation of the Term "God"
What does 'supernatural' mean or refer to, to you?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:23 pmGiving any characteristic to some supernatural god is to limit his choices.Age wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:17 amIn regards to 'what', exactly?What is the 'mind', to you, exactly?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:58 pm I am more of an esoteric ecumenists and am more open minded.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:58 pm This might help show my view. I like his thinking, but the the goof ends in idol worshiping Jesus, while ignoring the poor morality in him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkZg1ZflpJs
I don't think we are thinking that differently. I just have looser terms.
Have you ever noted how Yahweh was portrayed as androgynous before Christianity took the feminine out of the Jewish god?
That is also why Christians had to invent the rib woman for Adam.
Now Adam could go fuck himself. Joking.
Sorry. I could not help that last.
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DL
And, WHY did you claim here that 'some supernatural god' would be a "he"?
Okay.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:23 pm To say that Yahweh is male, when the Jews saw Yahweh as androgynous, is a quite the reach.
Obviously. But find out WHY, then you will KNOW how the misperception and misunderstanding arose and continues.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:23 pm Mind you, custom had most people using father to designate god.
And, you will not offer ANY here.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:23 pm The mind is well defined in the dictionaries and I offer no new definition.
But I NEVER invented ANY.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:23 pm Your mind is where you invented whatever ideals you might see in a god.
Okay, if you say so.
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Re: The Creation of the Term "God"
Prove me wrong, please, but more importantly, show why anyone should bend the knee to a genocidal satanic p**** of a god and join a right wing homophobic and misogynous religion?
If the Christian god were real, I would curse him to his face.
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Re: The Creation of the Term "God"
"Obviously. But find out WHY, then you will KNOW how the misperception and misunderstanding arose and continues."
I do not recall saying I did not know.
If you knew why, you would have taken the point instead of making a "stupid" allusion.
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I do not recall saying I did not know.
If you knew why, you would have taken the point instead of making a "stupid" allusion.
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Re: The Creation of the Term "God"
In regards to what, EXACTLY?
If you answered the clarifying questions that I posed to you, OPENLY and Honestly, then I would have ALREADY PROVED you wrong.
But I would NEVER suggest ANY one doe ANY thing like this. To ASSUME I would be just ABSURD to the highest degree.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:27 pm but more importantly, show why anyone should bend the knee to a genocidal satanic p**** of a god and join a right wing homophobic and misogynous religion?
Would that make you feel better? And, do you think God would REALLY CARE?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:27 pm If the Christian god were real, I would curse him to his face.
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Now, what to you even is 'the christian god'?
Re: The Creation of the Term "God"
You did not have to. It is ALREADY OBVIOUS you do not.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:31 pm "Obviously. But find out WHY, then you will KNOW how the misperception and misunderstanding arose and continues."
I do not recall saying I did not know.
Unless, OF COURSE, you would like to PROVE me wrong here. Which, if you do, then go on right ahead and SHOW us WHY "custom had most people using father to designate god".
We WAIT your EXPLANATION.
OF COURSE 'custom' had most people designating God that way. There was absolutely NO need for you to even say this.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:31 pm If you knew why, you would have taken the point instead of making a "stupid" allusion.
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I have just made it KNOWN that you do NOT KNOW WHY that misnomer 'custom' came about, AND STILL REMAINS.
Also, and by the way, we STILL wait for your answer to; What does 'supernatural' even mean or refer to, to you?
Sometimes when people want to CLAIM that some thing is NOT real, then they just revert to the ILLOGICAL CLAIM that that 'thing' is 'supernatural'. I am wanting to SEE what your reason is for using that term.
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Re: The Creation of the Term "God"
A genocidal p****.Age wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 7:26 amIn regards to what, EXACTLY?
If you answered the clarifying questions that I posed to you, OPENLY and Honestly, then I would have ALREADY PROVED you wrong.
But I would NEVER suggest ANY one doe ANY thing like this. To ASSUME I would be just ABSURD to the highest degree.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:27 pm but more importantly, show why anyone should bend the knee to a genocidal satanic p**** of a god and join a right wing homophobic and misogynous religion?Would that make you feel better? And, do you think God would REALLY CARE?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:27 pm If the Christian god were real, I would curse him to his face.
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Now, what to you even is 'the christian god'?
What is Yahweh to you?
The Christian god cares about morals just as little as the right wing Christians. Not at all.
That is why Christians run from discussing/debating his vile ways.
Hypocrites, truth and morals do not mix well.
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Re: The Creation of the Term "God"
Infinity, that which is without known beginning nor ending, cannot make sense.
Everything known is a mind constructed concept. The known doesn't have to make sense, insofar as what the heck is the MIND..except what imagination says it is. Then again, what is imagination?
You make your own sense. Who else is going to make it?
It's no coincidence that the word CON is in ''consensus''
And in consciousness, and in conscience, and in concept.
What is consciousness?
Exactly!
Re: The Creation of the Term "God"
The talking thinking species known as the human being has developed the art of conceptual langauge which has artificially imprinted an elaborate conceptual story overlaying what is essentially at it's core, the mystery of being.
TRUTH is prior to proof. The absolute truth that reality is unknowable doesn't require any proof, reality is it's own proof, reality is absolutely free to be in every instant, no matter what, because there is no other authority outside of infinity itself, infinity is self controlling. Reality controls itself. And you are that self. You are infinity itself, you have always existed infinitely forever.
If that were not true, then you wouldn't be here now. Now is forever, now is in finite.
There is absolutely no distinction between 'time' and 'timelessness', they are the same reality.
TRUTH is prior to proof. The absolute truth that reality is unknowable doesn't require any proof, reality is it's own proof, reality is absolutely free to be in every instant, no matter what, because there is no other authority outside of infinity itself, infinity is self controlling. Reality controls itself. And you are that self. You are infinity itself, you have always existed infinitely forever.
If that were not true, then you wouldn't be here now. Now is forever, now is in finite.
There is absolutely no distinction between 'time' and 'timelessness', they are the same reality.
Re: The Creation of the Term "God"
What is a 'p****'?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:31 pmA genocidal p****.Age wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 7:26 amIn regards to what, EXACTLY?
If you answered the clarifying questions that I posed to you, OPENLY and Honestly, then I would have ALREADY PROVED you wrong.
But I would NEVER suggest ANY one doe ANY thing like this. To ASSUME I would be just ABSURD to the highest degree.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:27 pm but more importantly, show why anyone should bend the knee to a genocidal satanic p**** of a god and join a right wing homophobic and misogynous religion?Would that make you feel better? And, do you think God would REALLY CARE?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:27 pm If the Christian god were real, I would curse him to his face.
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DL
Now, what to you even is 'the christian god'?
And, WHY to you is 'the christian god' a, supposed, genocidal p****?
I do not recall using that word, but f I did, then show us where, and then I will explain what that word means or refers to, to me.
WHY do you capitalize the 'christian' word but not the 'God' word?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:31 pm The Christian god cares about morals just as little as the right wing Christians. Not at all.
If you ever want to discuss God's ways instead, then I am more than willing to. But I am NOT a "christian" so maybe you are not yet ready to discuss God and Its ways, with me.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:31 pm That is why Christians run from discussing/debating his vile ways.
WHY do you propose truth and morals do not mix well?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:31 pm Hypocrites, truth and morals do not mix well.
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DL
I say they go perfectly well together.
Re: The Creation of the Term "God"
BUT it ALL makes PERFECT sense, that is; if and when one LOOKS properly AND correctly.
In Fact when things are LOOKED AT, properly AND correctly, the beginning AND ending of 'infinity' is SEEN, CRYSTAL CLEAR, which creates PERFECT sense.
Which is WHY ANY thing KNOWN is thee ACTUAL Truth, which could NEVER be refuted, EVER.
BUT the KNOWN does make sense. It is the THINKING that sometimes does NOT make sense.
Thee 'Mind' is ALWAYS OPEN, and is the very Thing that allows 'you', human beings, to be able to imagine, invent, devise, and create absolutely ANY thing and EVERY thing that 'you' have. Thee 'Mind' is thee True Intelligence within, which allows thee True Creator to express and show or REVEAL Itself.
Awareness.
What here exactly is 'exactly'?
Re: The Creation of the Term "God"
The opposite is also true.Age wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:46 amBUT it ALL makes PERFECT sense, that is; if and when one LOOKS properly AND correctly.
In Fact when things are LOOKED AT, properly AND correctly, the beginning AND ending of 'infinity' is SEEN, CRYSTAL CLEAR, which creates PERFECT sense.Which is WHY ANY thing KNOWN is thee ACTUAL Truth, which could NEVER be refuted, EVER.
BUT the KNOWN does make sense. It is the THINKING that sometimes does NOT make sense.Thee 'Mind' is ALWAYS OPEN, and is the very Thing that allows 'you', human beings, to be able to imagine, invent, devise, and create absolutely ANY thing and EVERY thing that 'you' have. Thee 'Mind' is thee True Intelligence within, which allows thee True Creator to express and show or REVEAL Itself.Awareness.What here exactly is 'exactly'?
The opposite is also perfect.
Truth is prior to proof, no futher inquiry necessary.
Self evidence, is it's own evidence. There is no 'evidence police' outside of your own self evident knowing.
Re: The Creation of the Term "God"
True, and WHEN the conceptual story is absolutely True, Right, AND Correct, then the mystery of Being can and WILL BE REVEALED.
NOT for EVERY one.
The CONTRADICTIONS here are a BLINDING.
This self-evident AND OBVIOUS. But "others" would just say there is NO other authority outside of thee Universe, Itself, thee Universe is Self controlling/creating.
The word 'you' infers "another", of which there obviously can NOT be, in Reality. The word 'I', however, infers ONLY One, of which there is ONLY One.
As I have been continually saying, from the outset, 'I' ALWAYS EXIST.
But one has to KNOW who and what 'I' am, FIRST, to FULLY understand this Fact.
It could be said that HERE-NOW is finite, infinitely. Also, it is ONLY 'I' who is ALWAYS HERE-NOW, in ALL WAYS.
This is WHY Reality is constantly-changing, and Creating, Itself - HERE-NOW.
There is not an actual thing as 'time', other than 'time' just being the human being created word and label to describe the measurements taken between, perceived, "events". However, 'timelessness' is HERE-NOW, INFINITELY.